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In the four years I've been doing this, I don't think I've come across a weekend where there are so many matchups that could go a long way to determining division winners. With that being said, I have a referendum to put to vote.

 

QUESTION: For non-Sunday games where multiple NFL games are being played (Thanksgiving Day, for example), should there be one deadline for all games on that day, or should each game get its own deadline? For example, On Thanksgiving Day, Gert T submitted his Turkey Day picks late (about an hour after the first game of the day begain, if memory serves). With the rules as they are, Gert missed out on all three games for that day. With approval of this proposed rule, Gert would have missed the first game of the day, but because he got his picks before the other two games that day he would have had those two other selections count. This rule would not be applied to Sunday games, but rather instances where multiple games take place on a non-Sunday. This rule will also apply to all postseason match-ups. If someone misses the first wild card game of the weekend, he could still pick on the other three games if he gets them in on time. Vote on whether or not you want to allow this exemption. A "yes" vote means this rule will be adopted for next year. A "no" means the status quo. If you don't vote then I don't count it as a "yes" or "no". If the votes are cast and the result is a tie, the staus quo will remain. If you want to vote, let me know with this week's picks. And if you don't want this rule to apply to the postseason, or if you want this to just apply to the postseason, voice your opinion on this aspect, too, and if there's enough interest one way or another I'll put it to a run-off.

 

VOTE TOTALS:

 

YES: Harley Quinn, Starvenger, Canadian Guitarist, Spaceman Spiff, Always Pissed Off

 

NO: King of the 909, Lightning Flik, Hawk34, Kahran, KingPK, Porter, Danville, Bravesfan, Fazzle, Cena's Writer, Cuban Linx, Smues, Canadian Chris, SFA Jack, Hawk34,

 

Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5)

(3.5) Atlanta at Tampa Bay

Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5)

Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5)

(1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville

Minnesota at Detroit (2.5)

(3.5) New England at Miami

New Orleans at Dallas (6.5)

N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5)

Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5)

(1.5) Philadelphia at Washington

Tennessee at Houston (1.5)

Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5)

(3.5) Seattle at Arizona

Denver at San Diego (7.5)

(6.5) Chicago at St. Louis

 

Cleveland (SFA Jack 10-3) defeated Pittsburgh (Kahran Ramsus 7-5-1) 6-6+TB

CLE: CLE/ATL/KC/NYJ/JAX/DET/NE/NO/NYG/CIN/WAS/HOU/GB/SEA/DEN/STL/16

PIT: CLE/TB/KC/NYJ/IND/DET/NE/NO/CAR/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/17

DIFF: ATL/TB, JAX/IND, NYG/CAR, WAS/PHI, HOU/TEN, GB/SF, DEN/SD, STL/CHI, 16/17

 

Atlanta (King of the 909 10-3) defeated Tampa Bay (Starvenger 8-5) 11-10

ATL: PIT/ATL/BAL/NYJ/JAX/MIN/NE/NO/CAR/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/21

TB: PIT/ATL/BAL/NYJ/IND/DET/NE/NO/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/10

DIFF: JAX/IND, MIN/DET, CAR/NYG

 

Baltimore (King PK 5-7-1) defeated Kansas City (Alfdogg 7-6) 9-6

BAL: CLE/ATL/KC/BUF/JAX/MIN/NE/DAL/CAR/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/23

KC: CLE/TB/KC/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/DAL/CAR/CIN/WAS/TEN/GB/SEA/SD/CHI/20

DIFF: ATL/TB, BUF/NYJ, JAX/IND, PHI/WAS, SF/GB

 

Buffalo (Bob Barron 7-6) defeated N.Y. Jets (Gert T 6-7) 12-9

BUF: PIT/ATL/BAL/NYJ/IND/MIN/MIA/NO/CAR/CIN/PHI/TEN/GB/SEA/SD/CHI/17

NYJ: XX/ATL/BAL/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/NO/NYG/CIN/WAS/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/20

DIFF: PIT/XXX, MIA/NE, CAR/NYG, PHI/WAS, GB/SF, 17/20

 

Indianapolis (Prime Time Andrew Doyle 7-6) defeated by Jacksonville (Always Pissed Off 10-3) 5-10

IND: CLE/TB/KC/XXX/IND/XXX/NE/NO/NYG/OAK/WAS/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/35

JAX: XXX/ATL/KC/BUF/JAX/MIN/NE/DAL/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/17

DIFF: TB/ATL, XXX/BUF, IND/JAX, XXX/MIN, NO/DAL, OAK/CIN, WAS/PHI, 35/17

 

Minnesota (Danville Wrestling 8-5) defeated Detroit (Bravesfan 9-4) 9-8

MIN: CLE/ATL/BAL/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/NO/NYG/OAK/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/26

DET: PIT/ATL/KC/NYJ/IND/DET/NE/DAL/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/19

DIFF: CLE/PIT, BAL/KC, MIN/DET, NO/DAL, OAK/CIN

 

New England (nl-asshole 6-6-1) defeated by Miami (Spaceman Spiff 4-9) 8-10

NE: CLE/ATL/BAL/NYJ/JAX/MIN/NE/DAL/CAR/CIN/PHI/HOU/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/31

MIA: PIT/ATL/KC/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/NO/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/20

DIFF: CLE/PIT, BAL/KC, JAX/IND, DAL/NO, CAR/NYG, HOU/TEN, 31/20

 

New Orleans (Cena’s Writer 5-7-1) defeated by Dallas (Hawk34 5-8) 6-7

NO: CLE/ATL/BAL/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/NO/NYG/OAK/WAS/TEN/SF/SEA/DEN/STL/28

DAL: CLE/ATL/KC/NYJ/IND/DET/MIA/DAL/CAR/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/26

DIFF: BAL/KC, MIN/DET, NE/MIA, NO/DAL, NYG/CAR, OAK/CIN, WAS/PHI, DEN/SD, STL/CHI

 

N.Y. Giants (Cartman 5-8) defeated Carolina (Fazzle 4-9) 12-8

NYG: PIT/ATL/BAL/NYJ/JAX/MIN/MIA/DAL/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/28

CAR: PIT/ATL/KC/BUF/IND/DET/NE/NO/CAR/OAK/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/18

DIFF: BAL/KC, NYJ/BUF, JAX/IND, MIN/DET, MIA/NE, DAL/NO, NYG/CAR, CIN/OAK, 28/18

 

Oakland (Smues 7-6) defeated Cincinnati (Teke 5-7-1) 12-9

OAK: PIT/ATL/BAL/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/NO/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/GB/SEA/SD/CHI/14

CIN: XX/ATL/BAL/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/NO/CAR/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/17

DIFF: PIT/XX, NYG/CAR, GB/SF

 

Philadelphia (Harley Quinn 6-6-1) defeated by Washington (Human Fly 6-7) 7-10

PHI: CLE/ATL/KC/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/NO/CAR/OAK/PHI/TEN/GB/SEA/DEN/CHI/17

WAS: CLE/ATL/BAL/BUF/IND/MIN/NE/DAL/CAR/CIN/PHI/TEN/GB/SEA/SD/CHI/16

DIFF: KC/BAL, NYJ/BUF, NO/DAL, OAK/CIN, DEN/SD

 

Tennessee (Cuban Linx 7-6) defeated by Houston (Bored 6-7) 7-12

TEN: CLE/ATL/KC/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/DAL/CAR/CIN/WAS/TEN/GB/SEA/SD/CHI/21

HOU: PIT/ATL/BAL/NYJ/JAX/MIN/NE/DAL/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/GB/SEA/SD/CHI/16

DIFF: CLE/PIT, KC/BAL, IND/JAX, CAR/NYG, WAS/PHI

 

Green Bay (Vitamin X 7-6) defeated by San Francisco (Lightning Flik 5-8) 5-10

GB: XXX/ATL/KC/NYJ/IND/DET/NE/DAL/CAR/CIN/PHI/HOU/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/EP

SF: CLE/ATL/BAL/NYJ/JAX/MIN/NE/DAL/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/24

DIFF: KC/BAL, IND/JAX, DET/MIN, CAR/NYG, HOU/TEN, EP/24

 

Seattle (C Dubya 5-8) defeated by Arizona (Vern Gagne 7-6)9-12

SEA: PIT/ATL/BAL/NYJ/IND/DET/NE/DAL/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/26

AZ: PIT/ATL/BAL/NYJ/JAX/MIN/NE/NO/NYG/CIN/WAS/TEN/GB/AZ/DEN/CHI/24

DIFF: IND/JAX, DET/MIN, DAL/NO, PHI/WAS, SF/GB, SEA/AZ, SD/DEN

 

Denver (Canadian Chris 6-7) defeated by San Diego (Porter 6-7) 10-11

DEN: PIT/ATL/KC/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/NO/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/17

SD: PIT/ATL/KC/NYJ/IND/DET/MIA/NO/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/GB/SEA/SD/CHI/28

DIFF: MIN/DET, NE/MIA, SF/GB

 

Chicago (Agent of Oblivion 4-9) defeated by St. Louis (Canadian Guitarist 5-8) 8-10

CHI: PIT/ATL/KC/NYJ/IND/DET/NE/NO/NYG/OAK/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/28

STL: PIT/ATL/BAL/BUF/IND/MIN/NE/DAL/NYG/CIN/WAS/TEN/GB/SEA/DEN/CHI/16

DIFF: KC/BAL, NYJ/BUF, DET/MIN, NO/DAL, OAK/CIN, PHI/WAS, SF/GB, SD/DEN, 28/16

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at Pittsburgh (7.5)

(3.5) Atlanta

at Kansas City (2.5)

at N.Y. Jets (4.5)

(1.5) Indianapolis

at Detroit (2.5)

(3.5) New England

New Orleans

N.Y. Giants

Oakland

(1.5) Philadelphia

Tennessee

at San Francisco (5.5)

(3.5) Seattle

at San Diego (7.5)

(6.5) Chicago

 

BEARS-28

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KC - 20

 

Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5)

(3.5) Atlanta at Tampa Bay

Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5)

Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5)

(1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville

Minnesota at Detroit (2.5)

(3.5) New England at Miami

New Orleans at Dallas (6.5)

N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5)

Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5)

(1.5) Philadelphia at Washington

Tennessee at Houston (1.5)

Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5)

(3.5) Seattle at Arizona

Denver at San Diego (7.5)

(6.5) Chicago at St. Louis

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Washington Redskins - 16 Points

 

Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5)

(3.5) Atlanta at Tampa Bay

Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5)

Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5)

(1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville

Minnesota at Detroit (2.5)

(3.5) New England at Miami

New Orleans at Dallas (6.5)

N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5)

Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5)

(1.5) Philadelphia at Washington

Tennessee at Houston (1.5)

Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5)

(3.5) Seattle at Arizona

Denver at San Diego (7.5)

(6.5) Chicago at St. Louis

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Thoisday

Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5)

 

I hate these Thursday games. Not so much that they're on Thursday, but because Bryant Gumbel has to be one of the worst PBP announcers of all time. Mind you, I'm not saying that he should engage in verbal diarrhea, but currently he's saying less than a football (international version) announcer...

 

All the Other Games

(3.5) The Michael Vick Experience at Tampa Bay

Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5)

Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5)

(1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville

Minnesota at Detroit (2.5)

(3.5) New England at Miami

New Orleans at Dallas (6.5)

N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5)

Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5)

(1.5) Philadelphia at Washington

Tennessee at Houston (1.5)

Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5)

(3.5) Seattle at Arizona

Denver at San Diego (7.5)

(6.5) Chicago at St. Louis

 

Tampa will probably score 10 points...

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Vote: Yes and Apply to Postseason. Life happens but that shouldn't screw a person out of multiple games.

 

Philadelphia - 17

 

Cleveland

(3.5) Atlanta

Kansas City (2.5)

N.Y. Jets (4.5)

(1.5) Indianapolis

Minnesota

(3.5) New England

New Orleans

Carolina (3.5)

Oakland

(1.5) Philadelphia

Tennessee

Green Bay

(3.5) Seattle

Denver

(6.5) Chicago

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I vote no to the changes. All one way, or all the way you are purposing for the games. Its not really fair that those non-weekend games are the only ones I can switch up, just because they are during the week and not the weekend. Yes, I got bite in the ass because of this, but its just like not remembering to make a selection. You forget you pay.

 

Cleveland

(3.5) Atlanta

Baltimore

N.Y. Jets (4.5)

Jacksonville

Minnesota

(3.5) New England

Dallas (6.5)

N.Y. Giants

Cincinnati (10.5)

(1.5) Philadelphia

Tennessee

San Francisco (5.5)

(3.5) Seattle

San Diego (7.5)

(6.5) Chicago

 

San Fran with 24

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I'm going to go with a No vote as well.

 

EDIT - BAL: 23

 

Cleveland

(3.5) Atlanta

Kansas City (2.5)

Buffalo

Jacksonville

Minnesota

(3.5) New England

Dallas (6.5)

Carolina (3.5)

Cincinnati (10.5)

(1.5) Philadelphia

Tennessee

San Francisco (5.5)

(3.5) Seattle

San Diego (7.5)

(6.5) Chicago

Edited by KingPK

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Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5)

(3.5) Atlanta at Tampa Bay

Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5)

Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5)

(1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville

Minnesota at Detroit (2.5)

(3.5) New England at Miami

New Orleans at Dallas (6.5)

N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5)

Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5)

(1.5) Philadelphia at Washington

Tennessee at Houston (1.5)

Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5)

(3.5) Seattle at Arizona

Denver at San Diego (7.5)

(6.5) Chicago at St. Louis

 

SD-28

 

Vote: No.

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I agree with the above posts in voting no.

 

Minnesota- 26

 

Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5)

(3.5) Atlanta at Tampa Bay

Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5)

Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5)

(1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville

Minnesota at Detroit (2.5)

(3.5) New England at Miami

New Orleans at Dallas (6.5)

N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5)

Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5)

(1.5) Philadelphia at Washington

Tennessee at Houston (1.5)

Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5)

(3.5) Seattle at Arizona

Denver at San Diego (7.5)

(6.5) Chicago at St. Louis

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Vote = yes.

 

Miami - 20

 

Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5)

(3.5) Atlanta at Tampa Bay

Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5)

Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5)

(1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville

Minnesota at Detroit (2.5)

(3.5) New England at Miami

New Orleans at Dallas (6.5)

N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5)

Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5)

(1.5) Philadelphia at Washington

Tennessee at Houston (1.5)

Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5)

(3.5) Seattle at Arizona

Denver at San Diego (7.5)

(6.5) Chicago at St. Louis

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I'm gonna vote yes, even tho my biggest argument would be "What about early Sunday games?"

 

I'll take Pittsburgh, and will submit picks via PM just in case my playoff chances have anything left in the tank,

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Texans - 16 points

 

Pittsburgh

Atlanta

Baltimore

N.Y. Jets

Jacksonville

Minnesota

New England

Dallas

N.Y. Giants

Cincinnati

Philadelphia

Tennessee

Green Bay

Seattle

San Diego

Chicago

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Tennessee - 21 points

 

Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5)

(3.5) Atlanta at Tampa Bay

Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5)

Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5)

(1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville

Minnesota at Detroit (2.5)

(3.5) New England at Miami

New Orleans at Dallas (6.5)

N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5)

Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5)

(1.5) Philadelphia at Washington

Tennessee at Houston (1.5)

Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5)

(3.5) Seattle at Arizona

Denver at San Diego (7.5)

(6.5) Chicago at St. Louis

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Pittsburgh

Atlanta

Baltimore

N.Y. Jets

Jacksonville

Minnesota

Miami

Dallas

N.Y. Giants

Cincinnati

Philadelphia

Tennessee

San Francisco

Seattle

San Diego

Chicago

 

28

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Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5)

(3.5) Atlanta at Tampa Bay

Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5)

Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5)

(1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville

Minnesota at Detroit (2.5)

(3.5) New England at Miami

New Orleans at Dallas (6.5)

N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5)

Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5)

(1.5) Philadelphia at Washington

Tennessee at Houston (1.5)

Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5)

(3.5) Seattle at Arizona

Denver at San Diego (7.5)

(6.5) Chicago at St. Louis

 

Saints score - 28 points..

 

and no.

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I vote no also.

 

Just question, you ever thought about adding the over/under to the voting? Maybe make it worth half a point, instead of a full pick?

 

 

Pittsburgh

Atlanta

Kansas City

Buffalo

Indianapolis

Detroit

New England

New Orleans

Carolina

Oakland

Philadelphia

Tennessee

San Francisco

Seattle

San Diego

Chicago

 

Carolina - 18 points

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Pittsburgh

Atlanta

Baltimore

N.Y. Jets

Indianapolis

Minnesota

Miami

New Orleans

Carolina

Cincinnati

Philadelphia

Tennessee

Green Bay

Seattle

San Diego

Chicago

 

Buffalo- 17

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Uh, deadline has come and gone for the Thursday game. And it's only in the 2nd quarter.

 

Just question, you ever thought about adding the over/under to the voting? Maybe make it worth half a point, instead of a full pick?

 

I've actually thought of doing something like that, but then it would eliminate the TB, and I'd rather have that be a determining factor rather than the over/under. I've thought about using over/under or some other "bonus" gimmick, but each time it seemed it would only generate confusion or take away too much from making the actual picks.

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Patriots ... 31 points ... and count me as a "no".

 

Atlanta

Baltimore

N.Y. Jets

Jacksonville

Minnesota

New England

Dallas

Carolina

Cincinnati

Philadelphia

Houston

San Francisco

Seattle

San Diego

Chicago

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Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5)

(3.5) Atlanta at Tampa Bay - Atlanta

Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5) - Baltimore

Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5) - NY Jets

(1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville - Indianapolis

Minnesota at Detroit (2.5) - Minnesota

(3.5) New England at Miami - New England

New Orleans at Dallas (6.5) - New Orleans

N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5) - NY Giants

Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5) - Cincinnati

(1.5) Philadelphia at Washington - Washington

Tennessee at Houston (1.5) - Tennessee

Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5) - San Fran

(3.5) Seattle at Arizona - Seattle

Denver at San Diego (7.5) - SD

(6.5) Chicago at St. Louis - cHICAGO

 

NY Jets 20 points

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Atlanta

Baltimore

Buffalo

Indianapolis

Minnesota

New England

Dallas

N.Y. Giants

Cincinnati

Washington

Tennessee

Green Bay

Seattle

Denver

Chicago

 

St. Louis scores 16...Good luck to everyone this week.

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