kkktookmybabyaway Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 In the four years I've been doing this, I don't think I've come across a weekend where there are so many matchups that could go a long way to determining division winners. With that being said, I have a referendum to put to vote. QUESTION: For non-Sunday games where multiple NFL games are being played (Thanksgiving Day, for example), should there be one deadline for all games on that day, or should each game get its own deadline? For example, On Thanksgiving Day, Gert T submitted his Turkey Day picks late (about an hour after the first game of the day begain, if memory serves). With the rules as they are, Gert missed out on all three games for that day. With approval of this proposed rule, Gert would have missed the first game of the day, but because he got his picks before the other two games that day he would have had those two other selections count. This rule would not be applied to Sunday games, but rather instances where multiple games take place on a non-Sunday. This rule will also apply to all postseason match-ups. If someone misses the first wild card game of the weekend, he could still pick on the other three games if he gets them in on time. Vote on whether or not you want to allow this exemption. A "yes" vote means this rule will be adopted for next year. A "no" means the status quo. If you don't vote then I don't count it as a "yes" or "no". If the votes are cast and the result is a tie, the staus quo will remain. If you want to vote, let me know with this week's picks. And if you don't want this rule to apply to the postseason, or if you want this to just apply to the postseason, voice your opinion on this aspect, too, and if there's enough interest one way or another I'll put it to a run-off. VOTE TOTALS: YES: Harley Quinn, Starvenger, Canadian Guitarist, Spaceman Spiff, Always Pissed Off NO: King of the 909, Lightning Flik, Hawk34, Kahran, KingPK, Porter, Danville, Bravesfan, Fazzle, Cena's Writer, Cuban Linx, Smues, Canadian Chris, SFA Jack, Hawk34, Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5) (3.5) Atlanta at Tampa Bay Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5) Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5) (1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville Minnesota at Detroit (2.5) (3.5) New England at Miami New Orleans at Dallas (6.5) N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5) Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5) (1.5) Philadelphia at Washington Tennessee at Houston (1.5) Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5) (3.5) Seattle at Arizona Denver at San Diego (7.5) (6.5) Chicago at St. Louis Cleveland (SFA Jack 10-3) defeated Pittsburgh (Kahran Ramsus 7-5-1) 6-6+TB CLE: CLE/ATL/KC/NYJ/JAX/DET/NE/NO/NYG/CIN/WAS/HOU/GB/SEA/DEN/STL/16 PIT: CLE/TB/KC/NYJ/IND/DET/NE/NO/CAR/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/17 DIFF: ATL/TB, JAX/IND, NYG/CAR, WAS/PHI, HOU/TEN, GB/SF, DEN/SD, STL/CHI, 16/17 Atlanta (King of the 909 10-3) defeated Tampa Bay (Starvenger 8-5) 11-10 ATL: PIT/ATL/BAL/NYJ/JAX/MIN/NE/NO/CAR/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/21 TB: PIT/ATL/BAL/NYJ/IND/DET/NE/NO/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/10 DIFF: JAX/IND, MIN/DET, CAR/NYG Baltimore (King PK 5-7-1) defeated Kansas City (Alfdogg 7-6) 9-6 BAL: CLE/ATL/KC/BUF/JAX/MIN/NE/DAL/CAR/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/23 KC: CLE/TB/KC/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/DAL/CAR/CIN/WAS/TEN/GB/SEA/SD/CHI/20 DIFF: ATL/TB, BUF/NYJ, JAX/IND, PHI/WAS, SF/GB Buffalo (Bob Barron 7-6) defeated N.Y. Jets (Gert T 6-7) 12-9 BUF: PIT/ATL/BAL/NYJ/IND/MIN/MIA/NO/CAR/CIN/PHI/TEN/GB/SEA/SD/CHI/17 NYJ: XX/ATL/BAL/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/NO/NYG/CIN/WAS/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/20 DIFF: PIT/XXX, MIA/NE, CAR/NYG, PHI/WAS, GB/SF, 17/20 Indianapolis (Prime Time Andrew Doyle 7-6) defeated by Jacksonville (Always Pissed Off 10-3) 5-10 IND: CLE/TB/KC/XXX/IND/XXX/NE/NO/NYG/OAK/WAS/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/35 JAX: XXX/ATL/KC/BUF/JAX/MIN/NE/DAL/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/17 DIFF: TB/ATL, XXX/BUF, IND/JAX, XXX/MIN, NO/DAL, OAK/CIN, WAS/PHI, 35/17 Minnesota (Danville Wrestling 8-5) defeated Detroit (Bravesfan 9-4) 9-8 MIN: CLE/ATL/BAL/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/NO/NYG/OAK/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/26 DET: PIT/ATL/KC/NYJ/IND/DET/NE/DAL/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/19 DIFF: CLE/PIT, BAL/KC, MIN/DET, NO/DAL, OAK/CIN New England (nl-asshole 6-6-1) defeated by Miami (Spaceman Spiff 4-9) 8-10 NE: CLE/ATL/BAL/NYJ/JAX/MIN/NE/DAL/CAR/CIN/PHI/HOU/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/31 MIA: PIT/ATL/KC/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/NO/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/20 DIFF: CLE/PIT, BAL/KC, JAX/IND, DAL/NO, CAR/NYG, HOU/TEN, 31/20 New Orleans (Cena’s Writer 5-7-1) defeated by Dallas (Hawk34 5-8) 6-7 NO: CLE/ATL/BAL/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/NO/NYG/OAK/WAS/TEN/SF/SEA/DEN/STL/28 DAL: CLE/ATL/KC/NYJ/IND/DET/MIA/DAL/CAR/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/26 DIFF: BAL/KC, MIN/DET, NE/MIA, NO/DAL, NYG/CAR, OAK/CIN, WAS/PHI, DEN/SD, STL/CHI N.Y. Giants (Cartman 5-8) defeated Carolina (Fazzle 4-9) 12-8 NYG: PIT/ATL/BAL/NYJ/JAX/MIN/MIA/DAL/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/28 CAR: PIT/ATL/KC/BUF/IND/DET/NE/NO/CAR/OAK/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/18 DIFF: BAL/KC, NYJ/BUF, JAX/IND, MIN/DET, MIA/NE, DAL/NO, NYG/CAR, CIN/OAK, 28/18 Oakland (Smues 7-6) defeated Cincinnati (Teke 5-7-1) 12-9 OAK: PIT/ATL/BAL/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/NO/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/GB/SEA/SD/CHI/14 CIN: XX/ATL/BAL/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/NO/CAR/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/17 DIFF: PIT/XX, NYG/CAR, GB/SF Philadelphia (Harley Quinn 6-6-1) defeated by Washington (Human Fly 6-7) 7-10 PHI: CLE/ATL/KC/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/NO/CAR/OAK/PHI/TEN/GB/SEA/DEN/CHI/17 WAS: CLE/ATL/BAL/BUF/IND/MIN/NE/DAL/CAR/CIN/PHI/TEN/GB/SEA/SD/CHI/16 DIFF: KC/BAL, NYJ/BUF, NO/DAL, OAK/CIN, DEN/SD Tennessee (Cuban Linx 7-6) defeated by Houston (Bored 6-7) 7-12 TEN: CLE/ATL/KC/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/DAL/CAR/CIN/WAS/TEN/GB/SEA/SD/CHI/21 HOU: PIT/ATL/BAL/NYJ/JAX/MIN/NE/DAL/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/GB/SEA/SD/CHI/16 DIFF: CLE/PIT, KC/BAL, IND/JAX, CAR/NYG, WAS/PHI Green Bay (Vitamin X 7-6) defeated by San Francisco (Lightning Flik 5-8) 5-10 GB: XXX/ATL/KC/NYJ/IND/DET/NE/DAL/CAR/CIN/PHI/HOU/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/EP SF: CLE/ATL/BAL/NYJ/JAX/MIN/NE/DAL/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/24 DIFF: KC/BAL, IND/JAX, DET/MIN, CAR/NYG, HOU/TEN, EP/24 Seattle (C Dubya 5-8) defeated by Arizona (Vern Gagne 7-6)9-12 SEA: PIT/ATL/BAL/NYJ/IND/DET/NE/DAL/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/26 AZ: PIT/ATL/BAL/NYJ/JAX/MIN/NE/NO/NYG/CIN/WAS/TEN/GB/AZ/DEN/CHI/24 DIFF: IND/JAX, DET/MIN, DAL/NO, PHI/WAS, SF/GB, SEA/AZ, SD/DEN Denver (Canadian Chris 6-7) defeated by San Diego (Porter 6-7) 10-11 DEN: PIT/ATL/KC/NYJ/IND/MIN/NE/NO/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/17 SD: PIT/ATL/KC/NYJ/IND/DET/MIA/NO/NYG/CIN/PHI/TEN/GB/SEA/SD/CHI/28 DIFF: MIN/DET, NE/MIA, SF/GB Chicago (Agent of Oblivion 4-9) defeated by St. Louis (Canadian Guitarist 5-8) 8-10 CHI: PIT/ATL/KC/NYJ/IND/DET/NE/NO/NYG/OAK/PHI/TEN/SF/SEA/SD/CHI/28 STL: PIT/ATL/BAL/BUF/IND/MIN/NE/DAL/NYG/CIN/WAS/TEN/GB/SEA/DEN/CHI/16 DIFF: KC/BAL, NYJ/BUF, DET/MIN, NO/DAL, OAK/CIN, PHI/WAS, SF/GB, SD/DEN, 28/16
Guest Legalise Drugs and Murder Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 at Pittsburgh (7.5) (3.5) Atlanta at Kansas City (2.5) at N.Y. Jets (4.5) (1.5) Indianapolis at Detroit (2.5) (3.5) New England New Orleans N.Y. Giants Oakland (1.5) Philadelphia Tennessee at San Francisco (5.5) (3.5) Seattle at San Diego (7.5) (6.5) Chicago BEARS-28
alfdogg Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 KC - 20 Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5) (3.5) Atlanta at Tampa Bay Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5) Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5) (1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville Minnesota at Detroit (2.5) (3.5) New England at Miami New Orleans at Dallas (6.5) N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5) Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5) (1.5) Philadelphia at Washington Tennessee at Houston (1.5) Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5) (3.5) Seattle at Arizona Denver at San Diego (7.5) (6.5) Chicago at St. Louis
Human Fly Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 Washington Redskins - 16 Points Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5) (3.5) Atlanta at Tampa Bay Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5) Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5) (1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville Minnesota at Detroit (2.5) (3.5) New England at Miami New Orleans at Dallas (6.5) N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5) Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5) (1.5) Philadelphia at Washington Tennessee at Houston (1.5) Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5) (3.5) Seattle at Arizona Denver at San Diego (7.5) (6.5) Chicago at St. Louis
starvenger Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 Thoisday Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5) I hate these Thursday games. Not so much that they're on Thursday, but because Bryant Gumbel has to be one of the worst PBP announcers of all time. Mind you, I'm not saying that he should engage in verbal diarrhea, but currently he's saying less than a football (international version) announcer... All the Other Games (3.5) The Michael Vick Experience at Tampa Bay Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5) Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5) (1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville Minnesota at Detroit (2.5) (3.5) New England at Miami New Orleans at Dallas (6.5) N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5) Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5) (1.5) Philadelphia at Washington Tennessee at Houston (1.5) Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5) (3.5) Seattle at Arizona Denver at San Diego (7.5) (6.5) Chicago at St. Louis Tampa will probably score 10 points...
kkktookmybabyaway Posted December 6, 2006 Author Report Posted December 6, 2006 Fuck Bryant Gumbel. That fact he's on makes me glad I don't have the NFL Network.
HarleyQuinn Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 Vote: Yes and Apply to Postseason. Life happens but that shouldn't screw a person out of multiple games. Philadelphia - 17 Cleveland (3.5) Atlanta Kansas City (2.5) N.Y. Jets (4.5) (1.5) Indianapolis Minnesota (3.5) New England New Orleans Carolina (3.5) Oakland (1.5) Philadelphia Tennessee Green Bay (3.5) Seattle Denver (6.5) Chicago
kkktookmybabyaway Posted December 6, 2006 Author Report Posted December 6, 2006 I should note that these changes would occur next season. This ain't Election 2000 where rules try to get changed in the middle of the action. I also haven't disenfranchised AlwaysPissedOff's vote ... yet.
Lightning Flik Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 I vote no to the changes. All one way, or all the way you are purposing for the games. Its not really fair that those non-weekend games are the only ones I can switch up, just because they are during the week and not the weekend. Yes, I got bite in the ass because of this, but its just like not remembering to make a selection. You forget you pay. Cleveland (3.5) Atlanta Baltimore N.Y. Jets (4.5) Jacksonville Minnesota (3.5) New England Dallas (6.5) N.Y. Giants Cincinnati (10.5) (1.5) Philadelphia Tennessee San Francisco (5.5) (3.5) Seattle San Diego (7.5) (6.5) Chicago San Fran with 24
KingPK Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 (edited) I'm going to go with a No vote as well. EDIT - BAL: 23 Cleveland (3.5) Atlanta Kansas City (2.5) Buffalo Jacksonville Minnesota (3.5) New England Dallas (6.5) Carolina (3.5) Cincinnati (10.5) (1.5) Philadelphia Tennessee San Francisco (5.5) (3.5) Seattle San Diego (7.5) (6.5) Chicago Edited December 7, 2006 by KingPK
Kahran Ramsus Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 No. You've made your deadlines quite clear. If they can't make it, too bad.
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5) (3.5) Atlanta at Tampa Bay Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5) Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5) (1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville Minnesota at Detroit (2.5) (3.5) New England at Miami New Orleans at Dallas (6.5) N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5) Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5) (1.5) Philadelphia at Washington Tennessee at Houston (1.5) Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5) (3.5) Seattle at Arizona Denver at San Diego (7.5) (6.5) Chicago at St. Louis SD-28 Vote: No.
Danville_Wrestling Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 I agree with the above posts in voting no. Minnesota- 26 Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5) (3.5) Atlanta at Tampa Bay Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5) Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5) (1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville Minnesota at Detroit (2.5) (3.5) New England at Miami New Orleans at Dallas (6.5) N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5) Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5) (1.5) Philadelphia at Washington Tennessee at Houston (1.5) Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5) (3.5) Seattle at Arizona Denver at San Diego (7.5) (6.5) Chicago at St. Louis
CanadianChris Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 I vote no as well. My Thursday pick: -7.5
Spaceman Spiff Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 Vote = yes. Miami - 20 Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5) (3.5) Atlanta at Tampa Bay Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5) Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5) (1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville Minnesota at Detroit (2.5) (3.5) New England at Miami New Orleans at Dallas (6.5) N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5) Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5) (1.5) Philadelphia at Washington Tennessee at Houston (1.5) Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5) (3.5) Seattle at Arizona Denver at San Diego (7.5) (6.5) Chicago at St. Louis
CanadianGuitarist Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 I'm gonna vote yes, even tho my biggest argument would be "What about early Sunday games?" I'll take Pittsburgh, and will submit picks via PM just in case my playoff chances have anything left in the tank,
Guest Smues Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 Vote: No Thursday: Steelers Sunday: Soon
Bored Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 Texans - 16 points Pittsburgh Atlanta Baltimore N.Y. Jets Jacksonville Minnesota New England Dallas N.Y. Giants Cincinnati Philadelphia Tennessee Green Bay Seattle San Diego Chicago
Cuban Linx Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 Tennessee - 21 points Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5) (3.5) Atlanta at Tampa Bay Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5) Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5) (1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville Minnesota at Detroit (2.5) (3.5) New England at Miami New Orleans at Dallas (6.5) N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5) Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5) (1.5) Philadelphia at Washington Tennessee at Houston (1.5) Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5) (3.5) Seattle at Arizona Denver at San Diego (7.5) (6.5) Chicago at St. Louis
Cuban Linx Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 (edited) Double post, i guess i'll use this to vote 'no', though i don't particularly care either way. Edited December 7, 2006 by Cuban_Linx
Cartman Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 Pittsburgh Atlanta Baltimore N.Y. Jets Jacksonville Minnesota Miami Dallas N.Y. Giants Cincinnati Philadelphia Tennessee San Francisco Seattle San Diego Chicago 28
Brett Favre Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5) (3.5) Atlanta at Tampa Bay Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5) Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5) (1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville Minnesota at Detroit (2.5) (3.5) New England at Miami New Orleans at Dallas (6.5) N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5) Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5) (1.5) Philadelphia at Washington Tennessee at Houston (1.5) Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5) (3.5) Seattle at Arizona Denver at San Diego (7.5) (6.5) Chicago at St. Louis Saints score - 28 points.. and no.
fazzle Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 I vote no also. Just question, you ever thought about adding the over/under to the voting? Maybe make it worth half a point, instead of a full pick? Pittsburgh Atlanta Kansas City Buffalo Indianapolis Detroit New England New Orleans Carolina Oakland Philadelphia Tennessee San Francisco Seattle San Diego Chicago Carolina - 18 points
bob_barron Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 Pittsburgh Atlanta Baltimore N.Y. Jets Indianapolis Minnesota Miami New Orleans Carolina Cincinnati Philadelphia Tennessee Green Bay Seattle San Diego Chicago Buffalo- 17
kkktookmybabyaway Posted December 8, 2006 Author Report Posted December 8, 2006 Uh, deadline has come and gone for the Thursday game. And it's only in the 2nd quarter. Just question, you ever thought about adding the over/under to the voting? Maybe make it worth half a point, instead of a full pick? I've actually thought of doing something like that, but then it would eliminate the TB, and I'd rather have that be a determining factor rather than the over/under. I've thought about using over/under or some other "bonus" gimmick, but each time it seemed it would only generate confusion or take away too much from making the actual picks.
nl5xsk1 Posted December 9, 2006 Report Posted December 9, 2006 Patriots ... 31 points ... and count me as a "no". Atlanta Baltimore N.Y. Jets Jacksonville Minnesota New England Dallas Carolina Cincinnati Philadelphia Houston San Francisco Seattle San Diego Chicago
CanadianChris Posted December 9, 2006 Report Posted December 9, 2006 Denver - 17 Atlanta Kansas City N.Y. Jets Indianapolis Minnesota New England New Orleans N.Y. Giants Cincinnati Philadelphia Tennessee San Francisco Seattle San Diego Chicago
Gert T Posted December 10, 2006 Report Posted December 10, 2006 Cleveland at Pittsburgh (7.5) (3.5) Atlanta at Tampa Bay - Atlanta Baltimore at Kansas City (2.5) - Baltimore Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4.5) - NY Jets (1.5) Indianapolis at Jacksonville - Indianapolis Minnesota at Detroit (2.5) - Minnesota (3.5) New England at Miami - New England New Orleans at Dallas (6.5) - New Orleans N.Y. Giants at Carolina (3.5) - NY Giants Oakland at Cincinnati (10.5) - Cincinnati (1.5) Philadelphia at Washington - Washington Tennessee at Houston (1.5) - Tennessee Green Bay at San Francisco (5.5) - San Fran (3.5) Seattle at Arizona - Seattle Denver at San Diego (7.5) - SD (6.5) Chicago at St. Louis - cHICAGO NY Jets 20 points
CanadianGuitarist Posted December 10, 2006 Report Posted December 10, 2006 Atlanta Baltimore Buffalo Indianapolis Minnesota New England Dallas N.Y. Giants Cincinnati Washington Tennessee Green Bay Seattle Denver Chicago St. Louis scores 16...Good luck to everyone this week.
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