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Deranged.

I say he should be in. But, I dont get to vote for a reason...

Starrcade 1997 December 28, 1997 in Washington, D.C. MCI Center drawing 17,500 ($543,000) Shown live on PPV (1.9) -WCW Cruiserweight Champ Eddie Guerrero pinned Dean Malenko (14:57). -Randy Savage, Scott Norton, & Vincent beat Ray Traylor, Rick & Scott Steiner (11:06) when Savage pinned Scott. -Bill Goldberg pinned Steve McMichael (5:59). -Saturn beat Chris Benoit (10:50) via submission in a "no DQ" match. -Buff Bagwell pinned Lex Luger (16:36). -Diamond Dallas Page pinned Curt Hennig (10:52) to win the WCW US Title. -Larry Zbysko (WCW) beat Eric Bischoff (NOW) (11:12) via DQ in a match for control of Monday Nitro. Bret Hart was the guest referee. -Sting beat Hulk Hogan (12:54) via submission to win the WCW World Title. This was going to be WCW's equivalent of WrestleMania 3. The card was stacked and well promted (Benoit finally gets Raven, Nash vs. The Giant, Flair vs. Hennig, Bret Hart debuts, and Hogan-Sting). The Hogan-Sting match was just huge at the time. I ordered this ppv (my first from WCW) and really had high expectations...seriously, how could they fuck this one up? Eddie and Dean didnt quite bring their ECW star-ratings, but a good match nonetheless. And then it just flys off on a down ward spiral... Scott Hall comes out to do a crowd survey to replace the Nash-Giant match that was hyped for like 2 months. Giant comes out, but instead of a replacement match, he kicks Scotts ass and just leaves... The 6 man tag sucked a monstercock... Goldberg-Mongo was even worse... Raven decides to not wrestle Benoit, so we get Perry Saturn in his place. not nearly what anybody had paid for... Bagwell-Luger was pukeworthy... Ric Flair was replaced by DDP. DDP-Hennig was insanely boring... Bischoff-Zbszko tok the starratings into the negatives. It was expected to be bad but I kinda hoped thered be a modicum of entertainment value, but no... And finally - Hollywood Hogan vs. Sting. A match that had been building for over a year. A match so big it got WCW a 1.9 buyrate. The biggest wrestling match and event of 1997. The most anticipated match in a long, long time... The match ends up being horribly booked, with Hogan getting most of the offense. The crowd, catatonic from the pathetic undercard, are kicked around like 17,500 dead horses. A fast count angle is actually done slow by Nick Patrick. The match doesnt even end cleanly. Biggest disspointment ever, terrible matches all around, and the beginning of the end for WCW...when it could have cemented them as a huge #1. Worst PPV Of All-Time.

Both were asked. Why must every baseball player decline the Blue Jays hat? I understand Rocket, but Dave Winfield didn't and Alomar will probably not do it either. Argh. Here's an interesting one; Roger Maris. Maris no. He was only a very good player for two years, and he wasn't THAT great even then. I think he should be voted in for 'Historical Reasons'.

Finally, about time for Wisconsin-Purdue...

Bob Dylan is finally releasing his autobiography. The first volume is out now...I plan to pick it up sometime next week. From the reviews thus far, it sounds both informative and enigmatic(fitting combo for Dylan). http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...=books&n=507846 Any thoughts?

Bob Dylan - Tangled Up In Blue(live)

Wasn't Tonya fat?

I'm saying the show is simply an entertainment show. That is all. Stewart is bitching about an entertainment show, claiming it is "hurting America", a diatribe high schoolers would be ashamed to state. Actually, I liked Stewart's show a lot until recently. I do not care that he supports Kerry over Bush --- that is expected (and anybody who takes a comedian's views seriously deserves to be led around by idiots) --- it's just that the comedy is seldom delivered by him. Hell, it's seldom delivered period. Lewis Black has not had a funny rant in months now. Stewart was never the funniest guy on the show and that is only getting progressively worse. Without Colbert, that show is less funny than MAD TV. -=Mike Mike, some people actually get their news from shows like Crossfire, Hannity/Colmes, etc...and thats pretty sad... Just as sad is that some people get their news from Daily Show, Leno, etc.

Yep...thats what everyone who enjoyed Stewart's comments said, 'JON RULZ DOODZ' Another shot of brilliance from greatone, the independant-minded TSM poster.

I didnt even know N2R 97 was on ppv.

Grateful Dead - Sugar Magnolia(live)

Word.

Also with Young, go with On the Beach--Incandenza (if the spellings wrong I apologoize) reviewed it song for song in that old "Rate the songs on the album" thread. Get EVERYTHING from Neil in the 70s. Actually, everybody should hear every song the man has ever recorded...

Genesis - Wind & Wuthering cd

Neil Young - Check out everything (After The Goldrush, Harvest, Stars N Bars, Tonights The Night, Rust Never Sleeps)... Eagles Greatest Hits (first one) is a must-own record... It was a pretty good decade for music, just keep searching and discoverin new shit...but, avoid the 'arean-rock' garbage at cost(Journey, REO, Styx, etc)

This Thread=Gay

Shawn Green Marquis Grissom BJ Surhoff Ron Guidry Charles Nagy Matt Williams

Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind cd

Ken Caminiti Mark Grace Frank Thomas

Wow.

Best 39.95 I ever spent.

Yeah....it kinda does. Unless you're the Red Sox (and I'm a Sox fan) Or the Washington Redskins I feel your pain. I went through it with the Baltimore Orioles. it just keeps hurting more and more..... I went to a game at Camden this summer while I was on the east coast...fantabulous stadium but, damn, the Orioles just got mauled by Oakland. I left in the seventh inning and it was 7-0...minutes later, I listened as the A's hit another 2 run homerun while I rode in the taxi.

Damn

Talking Heads - Burning Down The House(Stop Making Sense dvd)