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Lisa-focused episodes on the whole are generally kind of lousy but I wouldn't say her character is actively annoying.

Heh- I own that tape. Yeah, one of the more bizarre moments I've seen in wrestling. Bixie ain't exaggerating- that crowd shot is about three or four minutes long and Heenan seems legit pissed.

I wouldn't mind Helen Lovejoy getting drafted, but Jesus Christ, yes, I'm glad nobody's drafted Lindsey Naegle too. What a boring, boring stock character. I really only dislike Helen Lovejoy for the brief period where they tried to get "Won't somebody please think of the children!" as a catchphrase. For some reason, that really annoyed me. And yeah, the introduction of Lindsay Naegle just happens to correspond with the downfall of The Simpsons. So many better secondary characters yet she plays a decent part in a lot of later day episodes.

Jesus...that's an understatement there, Gary. I only got through twenty or thirty seconds before I wanted to physically assault someone!

Now that Venkman mentions it, I'm glad Lindsay Nagle hasn't been picked yet. One of the few Simpsons characters I actively dislike. Another one is Helen Lovejoy. I guess I'm spoiling since I don't think either have been picked but dammit I don't care!

GROUP A Respect" by Aretha Franklin "Sunshine Of Your Love" by Cream "The House Of The Rising Sun" by the Animals "Good Vibrations" by Beach Boys GROUP B "Hey Jude" by The Beatles "You Really Got Me" by The Kinks "Stand By Me" by Ben E. King (Real tough one- I figured at least one Beatles song would advance to the next song- not sure if one song by a black performer would though! Seriously though, both are iconic songs of the decade that are overhyped. But given the fact that "A Day In A Life" wins so many greatest songs lists, I don't see why it needs to win this one. "Daydream Believer" by The Monkees GROUP C "Can't Help Falling In Love" by Elvis Presley (Another tough one- as I'd be eliminating the last song that I nominated still on the ballot) "My Generation" by The Who "The Weight" by The Band "God Only Knows" by The Beach Boys GROUP D "Tears of a Clown" by Smokey Robinson & the Miracles "Like a Rolling Stone" by Bob Dylan "Gimme Shelter" by Rolling Stones "Norwegian Wood" by Beatles And "Time of The Season didn't make it to Round Three. BULL FUCKING SHIT! That song should have at least made it to the Elite Eight.

I forgot one as well. I've always thought it'd be great for a jobber to use "Why Can't We Be Friends?" by War.

What's everybody's opinion on "Do They Know Its Christmas?" Yeah, it's a little too maudlin and kind of patronizing towards the starving Africans but god damn if I don't get a little bit choked up everytime I hear Bono wail "TONIGHT THANK GOD IT'S THEM INSTEAD OF YOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU" Oh and "Little Saint Nick" hasn't been mentioned either. That's another one of my favorites. Like Smues, I like about 75% of Christmas music. The only big exceptions besides the ones Smues has already mentioned is "Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer". Luckily there aren't many hicks programming the local stations that play 24/7 Christmas music so I don't hear it more than once or twice per season but good lord is that song awful.

I've always thought "I Won't Back Down" by Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers would be perfect for a plucky, common man (ala Dusty Rhodes or Tommy Dreamer) babyface. Way back when I did e-feds, one of my characters who was an arrogant prick heel used "Simply The Best" by Tina Turner.

Yeah, I remember reading it was #1 or #2 on its opening weekend and then fell hard after that. Why this movie isn't on DVD is beyond me....really if the Thunder In Paradise TV movies and The Secret Agent Club then why isn't this one? I need to see Hulk and Zeus's showdown in widescreen, dammit!

Yeah I love me some "Wonderful Christmastime". Possibly my favorite Christmas song. A lot of people think, like most of McCartney's solo work, that it's too whimsical and saccharine. Well sometimes I like whimsical and saccharine. Anyways I think now is as good of a time as ever to post a video for Tiny Tim's "Santa Claus Has Got The AIDS This Year". What he was trying to do with this song I'm not sure...

Actually, I think that would be really interesting to read. It's obviously not a matter of if he would attempt to gloss over some of the more sordid details of his batshit lunacy; that's a given. The real treat would be in seeing how he does it. Wait didn't Michael already write an autobiography? I think it was called Moonwalker (not to be confused with the film he did co-starring Joe Pesci and Sean Lennon...or the video game based on said movie). And this isn't really surprising. Jermaine's a Muslim (I think it's Jermaine- one of the lesser Jackson brothers. Though Jermaine is clearly #2) and has been trying to convert Mike for years.

Yeah, his role was kind of odd for various reasons. Most notably is that he was in between his WCW stint and WWF stint when it was filming. Did Vince sign him for the purpose of making him one of the baddies in the new Hulk Hogan? Maybe he signed him because of that? Someone fill me in! I couldn't find his review for No Holds Barred but here's Ebert's review for Suburban Commando!

Could you imagine Hulk Hogan's acceptance speech? Oh man, as long as it ended with him ripping his shirt off, I'd be happy (man that's the most homoerotic sentence I've ever written here).

Oh hell ya. Suburban Commando was the shit. Embarrasingly enough, I bought that DVD. Bought somewhat shortly after it came out and overpaid for it (It was like $12). Amusing anecdote about that one, an acquaintance of mine was in St. Louis on tour with his band and they met The Hulkster at a TGI Fridays. For some reason, they ask him about Suburban Commando and Hulk says that he doesn't remember much about it except Christopher Lloyd would show up to the set stoned all the time. I guess you might have to working on that one. To this day, my brother and I like to shout "I WAS FROZEN TODAY!" occasionally thanks to that moviel.

Well- it's time for this week's Let's Talk About... and mentioning the movie in another thread brought this subject to mind. No Holds Barred was the first starring role in Hulk Hogan's distinguished acting career and introduced the world to future character actor, Tom "Tiny" Lister. In the movie, Hulk Hogan in an incredible stretch of his acting abilities plays All American, good guy WWF World Champion, Rip who battles evil rival cable network head, Brell and his number one wrestling star, the unibrowed monster. Now in between there's an attempted rape, some pie fights, and Hulk making an evil limo driver crap his pants simply by growling at him. Now for whatever reason I didn't see this one until around '99/'00ish and I was somewhat smartened up. And man, looking back on it...I'd have to say this was when The Hulkster jumped the shark. You can't get much bigger than being pegged to star in your own Hollywood picture and they blew it big time. Anybody who isn't a wrestling fan would probably find this movie cliche ridden and mediocre at best and laughably bad at worst. And as evidenced by the box office grosses of Ready To Rumble and this, the number of wrestling fans who will see just any wrestling movie, no matter how crappy isn't all of that big of an audience. Worst of all though for wrestling fans was the ensuing feud between Hulk Hogan and Zeus. Now this feud was perhaps one of the biggest insults to wrestling fans' intelligence. It's one thing for us to believe that wrestling is real but it's another to believe that the events of that movie were somewhat grounded in reality and that Zeus was so upset by his loss in that movie that he'd come to WWF to extract revenge on The Hulkster. Worst of all, the lumbering oaf who couldn't really do much outside of a choke was all of a sudden the #1 heel in the WWF. This was the first real major dud opponent for Hulk Hogan. Even Vince seemed to realize this and cut the feud short before we could see Hulk and Zeus' epic one-on-one rematch. A couple of fun facts: Lugwrench Perkins, one of Zeus' opponents, was played by Jeep Swanson who would go on team up again with Zeus (newly rechristened as Z-Gangsta) and 2/3rds of the heels on WCW's roster at the time to take out Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage. Watch out for former AWA World Champion, Stan Hansen as one of the participants of Battle of The Tough Guys. Not only is this the first starring role for Hulk Hogan but the first film produced by the WWF. Unfortunately, this would probably rank amongst each of their's best work. And now some clips! No Holds Barred: The Music Video Best scene in the movie The Match Part 1 The Match Part 2 And for no good reason, The Hulkster's cameo in Gremlins 2. Still one of my favorite roles by a wrestler in a movie.

The fact that that and Thunder In Paradise aren't on DVD are the reasons why I still hold onto my VCR* *Not really but I did buy No Holds Barred and two Thunder In Paradise "movies" for like 75 cents a piece when the neighborhood video store was getting rid of their VHS about four years ago. Fake Edit: The Thunder In Paradise trilogy is on DVD! *Rushes to Amazon*

Didn't you and Marvin go to this show already? Like in August? Or does this mean two Chesapeake-area posters have attended two Staind/Papa Roach twinbills on separate occasions? Actually, Marvin attended a Three Doors Down/Staind twinbill. Why I remember this kind of crap is beyond me...

What...the...fuck... And I thought the collaboration they did with The Fat Boys was bizarre

HO HO HO HO HOHHHHHHHHHHHH YEAAHHHHH! SNAP INTO CHRISTMAS!

Don't forget Over Her Dead Body, the crappy jilted ex fiance ghost tries to haunt her lover's new girlfriend movie he did with Eva Longoria a year or so back.

For a second, I was hoping you were talking about the Mick Jagger/Jacksons collaboration. Though come to think of it, that one's not too good either. Generally speaking, if every band you've heard of on a bill is crappy, the band you haven't heard of will be crappy too.

I can see where HTQ is coming from, even though I disagree somewhat. However, this thread is further proof that insulting Bobby Heenan is akin to raping one's grandmother in the IWC.

Top Five Beach Boys songs not written or produced by Brian Wilson 5. "Baby Blue" 4. "Make It Good" 3. "All This Is That" 2. "Feel Flows" 1. "The Trader"

Yeah, "Feel Flows" is a classic. Perhaps the best Beach Boys song not written or produced by Brian Wilson. Oh I smell a cross over in The Top Five Favorite thread... Speaking of which, I was mildly pissed that Brian Wilson was on Rolling Stone's list of Best Singers of The Rock Era and Carl Wilson wasn't. Now I think we can all agree that Brian was the genius of the group but I think even perhaps Brian would conclude that Carl was the best singer of the bunch (though Brian is a great singer in his own right and deserved his spot on that list).