Hunter's Torn Quad

Exactly. If Benoit is unhappy, he'll leave, regardless of how much WWE offer him.

Benoit will make the best decision for Benoit. If he wants the security, he'll go with WWE. If he wants creative freedom, he'll go with TNA/ROH or wherever.

People like that must be very happy.

Which is why the real test is the second prime time special which will have a longer and more focused build up. A lot of people, usually those lacking a clue, seem to forget this special was ordered with very little lead time for TNA.

I've started a nice little game going, with myself as the owner of a self-created cult level promotion in Japan. I've had some good cards and matches, involving Kawada, Choshu, Sasaki, Murakami, Suzuki and others. Anybody else got games going?

Before people call it horrible, let's see how they do with their second prime time special which will have a longer and stronger build from Spike. If that one is around the same range, or even down, then the doomsayers can have their fun.

Then there is the small point that it makes zero sense and is terrible booking for a bad ass character making his big return. Why are such simple concepts beyond some people? And you have to tell us more about the moron that thought Austin should lose clean.

It's funny, but no surprise, that both Lesnar and Coach incidents were down to personal vendetta's coming ahead of business sense.

Austin had nothing in his contract that binded him to having to put Coach over. It's funny seeing people try to defend how Vince treated Austin. Coach beating Austin would have been a stupid idea. It would have been terrible for business, and it wasn't even done because Vince thought it would be good business. Vince was doing it because of a personal issue with Jim Ross. And how can anyone justify Vince not coming flat out with what he wanted Austin to do before setting the PPV build in motion? If you want to blame someone for Austin walking out before the PPV, blame Vince. This while mess was down to his personal issue with Ross and a total disregard for simple business practice.

Austin wasn't given the finish until the Friday before the PPV. Yes. His first match in over two years, and they didn't even bother to tell him the finish until four days before the actual match.

But at the same time he laid out Rock and Vince in one night, and left Austin laying. Other than not having Hunter win clean, they put Hunter over pretty strong that night.

Just curious anyone know what the matches and results were? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> La Parka beat Juventud Guerrera Chavo Guerrero Jr beat Norman Smiley Bam Bam Bigelow beat Mike Enos David Finaly beat Prince Iaukea

True, but after a while it gets old. Fishy, you're wrong. So very wrong. Just accept that, and move on with what passes for your life.

The main reason is likely the skit from last week. While Raw can take a hit from some big football games, the fact that WWE and USA both hid the ratings shows they know it wasn't football that caused the drop. If they did, they would have released the ratings as normal and put their spin on it.

Halloween caused the low rating? Is the opinion some sort of joke, or is the joke the person behind it?

Apart from Edge and Masters, it wasn't anybody who would be a top Raw guy. And we'll never get War Games in WWE.

To be fair, he also said he didn't care about Raw. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which is even worse. If one of the top guys doesn't care about his brand, why should we? It's still stupid for a top guy, even a heel, to go out and say he doesn't enough about the other side in a feud he is in to fight them. They could have at least not have Edge talk about how he doesn't care enough about Smackdown to fight their wrestlers. People paid money to see the top Raw guys fight the top Smackdown guys. How do they feel knowing that one of the guys they paid to see fight cares so little about the match that they paid to see that he just blows it off like he doesn't care? If I paid to see TT and saw that, I'd be more mad at WWE for treating the PPV and fans like that, not the wrestler.

Whether Edge had to be removed or not, there are better ways to do it than have him act like he doesn't care about what is meant to be one of the top feuds in the company. Edge is one of the top guys on Raw, but if he doesn't care enough about Smackdown to fight them, why should we care enough to pay to see anyone from Raw fight the Smackdown guys?

Booker knew Eric was going to show up. He had to know to ensure the right reaction.

Personally, I don't think Flair should be beating HHH to begin with, especially with him expected to face Cena eventually. Your point is valid though. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Flair shouldn't get a really decisive win over Hunter, because of where each man is going, but at the same time Flair shouldn't get beaten decisively either, because he's about the only babyface the people will get behind. Someone of Flair's age isn't someone to build around, but there is no other babyface that the fans both truly care about and really don't want to boo. That in itself is a sad display of how bad things are on the babyface side.

The babyface is meant to get his big revenge over the heel at the end of the feud, not the beginning. Once we've seen the babyface leave the heel laying and proven wrong, why should we want to see him face the heel again? The face already proved he was right.

I thought the cage match was house show level stuff but with PPV level bloodshed. And that finish was a blowoff finish, with the babyface making the big comeback, beating the heel into a bloody mess, leaving him laying and casually walking out of the cage to win. It'll be hard to make a rematch make sense after a finish like that. And did anyone else notice that when Shawn was getting pinned by the FU he was trying to kick out but as soon as the ref counted to three Shawn suddenly lost all ability to move?

I think to change him up a little. I'm guessing Lothario was brought in because Shawn wanted him to be there. It didn't make sense otherwise.

Yea, Though I Walk Through The Valley Of The Shadow Of Suck – Part 11 The Undertaker v The Underfaker – Summerslam 1994 This infamous match was the culmination of the twin Undertaker storyline, that saw Ted DiBiase re-introduce ‘The Undertaker’ to the WWF after Undertaker had vanished after losing the casket match to Yokozuna back in January, only for Paul Bearer to claim it was a fake, and, after a (too) long build up, the match was set for Summerslam for Undertaker v Undertaker, with everyone wondering what exactly we would see. Ted DiBiase is in the ring, and be brings out The Underfaker, who looks far more pale than the original, as Vince McMahon and Jerry Lawler debate as to what Paul Bearer will bring. Paul Bearer came out, and he led to the ring a bunch of druids wheeling a coffin with The Undertaker’s name and colors on it, and when it got to ringside, most assumed Undertaker was in it. Instead, Bearer pulled a giant-sized urn from the coffin, and when he took the lid off it, a bright light shone from the urn. Did that come from Wal-Mart ? The lights go out, Bearer shines the light around the arena, and the real Undertaker makes his entrance to a great reaction. That reaction would be the only noise made until the end of the match, because this thing had zero heat to it. The crowd made absolutely no noise at all during this one, which Vince and Lawler tried to sell as awed silence, but it was painfully, almost embarrassingly, obvious that the crowd didn’t give a tinkers twiddle about this terrible storyline. The match itself, which went about nine minutes, saw both men go very slowly through The Undertaker’s spots, which was ungodly dull, because the inherent limitations of The Undertaker gimmick don’t make for a good match to begin with, but at least with a normal opponent the other guy can at least bump and fly and work at getting something out of the gimmick. However, with both men handcuffed by The Undertaker gimmick, we had a match that was beyond boring, beyond lifeless; beyond your wildest nightmares. So, after a barrage of chops, clotheslines, chops, clotheslines, a couple of blown spots, and Undertaker blocking Underfaker from doing the rope walk move, Underfaker tombstoned Undertaker, raised his arms half way up for some reason and went to make the cover but Undertaker sat up, and we had the first crowd reaction of the match. This lasted about 20 seconds. Underfaker went for a second tombstone, but Undertaker reversed it, and hit a tombstone of his own, to a decent reaction, before hitting two more to get the win. As a scared Ted DiBiase ran off, Undertaker rolled Underfaker into the casket at ringside, slammed the lid, and brought an end to one of the most nonsensical, intelligence insulting, nauseatingly embarrassing storylines of the pre-Russo era of the WWF. Rating: This is where I come up with something to adequately express how bad the match was, and my thoughts on it: This absolutely fucking sucked.

Not to mention that to simplify Bret not wanting to job as him not wanting to lose in his home country is to miss the point entirely.