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I thought David Arquette was Xander 0.01

What irked me is Dvon (and the WWE) portraying Smackdown as the "younger show". The Younger Show wrestling the shitty "Older" style. It's refuckingtarded.

And wrestlers, really, are idiots. You'd have to be stupid to do that much work for that little money.

I'd think making money would be on top of every wrestlers list. Everyone has their own definition of greatness - prolificacy, influence, longevity, popularity, "success". I don't agree with Bubbas claim, but I think if you ask any wrestling fan to name 5 tag teams, the Road Warriors would be one of them.

You said nothing of Shopkeeper Book. Er.. I mean Ron Glass.

Brian. Please. For my sanity. Please let that be the end... ... of Kent/Connor bickering over what to do. I just wanna smack em both! And where is Ron Glass as the shopkeeper? The man who is the last refuge of the damned. The man who continues running his store in the face of armageddon. WHERE IS HE??!

Men prefer women with a little meat on their bones You know, this statement/question could go very, very wrong.

Did I ever believe Big Show was a threat to the title? No. They did what they always do with him, and it wasn't impressive _at all_. The guy didn't produce any worthwhile matches, cut any worthwhile promos, have any worthwhile feuds.

I never thought that attitude was there in the first place.

I also hate the fact that the Main Event on RAW was billed as "either Benoit or Kane will go on to face HHH". Fucking hell.

I dunno about that. ... Steph more attractive than Eugene? Hmm..

If I were booking Regal/Eugene, I wouldn't have HHH in Regals ear, but rather have Regal stand-by and watch Evolution manipulate Eugene. Evolution tells Regal "if you go against us, this will happen. But if you go along, you this would happen (title shot against Orton, title shot against HHH)". Regal stays not because of that, but because as long as he is by Eugenes side he can lessen the blow and make sure things are under control (this could come up when Benoit confronts Regal and asks "how can you let this happen, he's supposed to be your friend".) There is a certain loyalty in that which I'd find admirable. Again, I fucking _hate_ what they've done in the past week with the character. Eugene is playing an annoying retard rather than the sympathetic retard. Go back to Coach and Eugene and see how the crowd reacted to it, they want to get behind the character and right now there's nothing to get behind.

I'm a lil bit iffy on the show idea. I think it'd be a really good method of informing newer fans on what it takes to be an Ultimate Fighter, PLUS it can establish some personalities which is VERY important in getting over anything - the viewer needs to form a relationship, invest their interest, so that when it comes time to pay-up for PPV it's a "I must buy this show" situation. However, it's on SPIKE TV so the amount of needed viewers to make the above a success is questionable. PLUS, if SPIKE doesn't get behind it 110% we could have another ECW on our hands. It would be a GREAT idea if they cross-promoted with the WWE, which has an audience of potential MMA fans - given the right marketing. A big problem is the "13 episodes" deal, I know that can possibly go from January to March and will - at best - get to advertise 2 PPVs on a consistant basis - but it's only for a fixed period of time. What happens after that? They're off of TV and back where they started from.

Regal as a heel is _so_ not what they should do. Regal could be a BIG TIME face if played right and it would actually be a FRESH approach at a face character - I love the "I know I'm a miserable person, always have always will be... but I love that kid.." - its fantastic. To ruin that is to ruin something that deals with HEART, and the WWE is missing that and has for a long, long while.

Eugene could be a very good tool to boost the characters of talents on the roster. Every wrestler could have a different perspective and reaction to him that could help develop their character. Coach got tremendous heat off of Eugene. Regal is fantastic with him. They haven't tapped into his relationship with Benoit - we don't know why Benoit helps him other that "because he's a good guy and good guys do good things". Bischoff actually has a reason to be a bad guy, which is a helluvalot better than what he has been doing before. I think Orton could get a lot off of Eugene as well. But so far, he's being _wasted_ on HHH. HHH manipulates people and is bad - WOW - haven't seen THAT before. He has seperated everyone from Eugene (with the help from the storyline) so no one else can benefit.

I thought that was wonderfully placed, because it didn't get the same kind of laughter like the jokes at the beginning. This was half-hearted laughter, because it came after all the dramatic stuff with the soldiers and the families. At the beginning of the film he was a lovable goof, but at the end it was much darker. You hated him for his stupidity. And the words themselves are very relevant.

Oh big time. Eugene works in small doses. 2 segments, tops. The novelty wears off the longer he talks. The humour is in the reactions of those around him.

I'm going to just throw out that I used to really like this storyline up until this past RAW. Now they've completely destroyed anything they've built up for the past few months just cause HHH wants to be booed a little bit more. The Regal/Eugene relationship was the best thing they had and now its gone.

I'm a big fan of the Conner script, I just need more time to read it

NoCal, the point goes further than that though. WHY do they want to go into Iraq? Why won't they go into Saudi Arabia? Why isn't Osama a key target anymore? Answer (and, to help MikeSC out here) in Moores eyes: $$$$ Iraq is profitable because they can drill for oil, as well as, establish other big businesses in the middle east. Afghanistan was profitable because they now had a government willing to allow them to move a pipeline through the country. Saudi Arabia is profitable because they invest so much in America, and if America attacks S.A., then they lose a big chunk of that investment - of which directly effects the Bush family. *inserts reminder for MikeSC that this is from Moores perspective and is what was represented in the film. This is a discussion of what went on in the film* There is no profit in Osama, so there's no incentive to go after him any more. And there is also profit in fear - so that not only gets the people to accept the US going into Iraq, it also gets them to buy silly fallout shelters.

I never called it a documentary. I called it a film. Again, you're putting words in my mouth and assuming I am saying one thing when in reality - and pretty clearly- I am saying another. Moore had an objective; a point. I think he successfully got that point across through masterful manipulation, whether that entailed misleading information or juxtapositioning "dumb bush" with "evil bush". That point was that the "real war" going on is a class war where Soldiers are doing the dirty work of Big Businesses and Bush is the connection between the two. Particulars be damned, I personally think that is the case in this war and Moore got his point across very well. Is that (my personal opinion on the war) AT ALL relevant to the discussion of Moores work _as a film_? No. The only personal opinion I put in the response you took out of context was "I thought the point of the film..." and didn't say I agree or disagreed with it. Politics belong in Current Events, and there are already a handful of threads on the very topic in that folder. Here we should be talking about his use of music, how he presented the information rather than what information he presented, the themes, the characterisation, and his manipulation all of it. Because what he manipulates shows how he sees it. It's from his perspective. He is narrating it. Of course there is going to be personal bias; I didn't go to see "How Bush really is", I went to see how Moore sees him. I went to see Moore rip Bush a new asshole.

Wow, showing a lack of knowledge in both the CE folder AND here? You are impressive. -=Mike Wow, taking things completely out of context to spin them for your own objectives in both the CE folder AND here? You are a fucking imp. CONTEXT Mike, say it with me... "I thought the point of this film..." Did Moore NOT display Bush favouring companies and groups which aided him in the past? Was this not in the film? THIS FILM. CONTEXT. Not what you believe happened in "real life" and not what "really happened", but in THIS FILM. What Moore was saying. What he wanted to get across. What THIS FILM was about. The point. CONTEXT.

I thought the point of this film -much like the point of every Moore film- is class war. Where the "Have Mores", as Bush calls them, are profiting off White House Initiatives -particularly the War in Iraq- and the people doing the dirty work are the soldiers - much of whom are victims of White House initiatives (which is to say, lower class, and the only work they can find is being a soldier). While families are suffering, Bush is busy scratching the backs of those who scratched his.

How can you not trust 1wrestling.com? They were the ones who brought us "Bret Hart has signed with the WWE and will be on RAW" back in 2001. And Cade never held the tag titles? The fuck??

Hopefully the Green Party will get SOMETHING from this election so we can have an actual alternative in the future.