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When you make assumptions that the Nassau crowd were "idiots" for liking the match, considering it had an emotional background going into the match, while posting for over seven pages on why people SHOULDN'T like it, I think it goes beyond an opinion and becomes a game of "let me convince you to hate this match". ...and millions of people buy Britney Spears records. What's your point? The FACT IS, people were glued to the match. Does that make it a necessarily "good" match? NO. Should that vindicate the fans for enjoying the match? YES. Considering he never made that Angle comment...and that Keith, among others, were emotionally invested in the match, it makes their opinion valid. You shouldn't dispose of their ideas because Keith has a different star scale that others. Yet, you can undercut ratings (Angle/Benoit RR 2003 at ***1/2?) and it's FINE? And we should STILL respect your opinion, yet shit on Keller for giving ***** to Lesnar/Angle?

Exactly. You can't watch that match cold turkey and necessarily have the same feeling as the fans "back then" did, since you'd have to trace their history as partners back to the 1992 Rumble.

Credit the Meltz... Raw delivered a 3.7 rating on Monday night. It's up from last week's 3.6.

From this week's Observer -

That's why you say "In my opinion", or shorthand it by stating "IMO". Don't state that it was shitty because YOU say so. There were 20,000+ in attendance that night who were on the edge of their seat for the entire match, while most of the big writers (Meltzer, Keller, Keith) raved about the match. Doesn't make your opinion an invalid one, but next time choose your words better.

But they DIDN'T play a video game, so they DIDN'T mention the matches being played on a video game, which is what you griped about.

Actual matches were taped. Good job jumping to conclusions.

Week Twelve, Thirteen, as well as the updated year standings will be up TODAY. Must stop procrastinating... Week Fourteen Prediction Thread Chicago at Green Bay Cincinnati at Baltimore Dallas at Philadelphia Houston at Jacksonville Indianapolis at Tennessee Oakland at Pittsburgh San Diego at Detroit Seattle at Minnesota Tampa Bay at New Orleans Washington at N.Y. Giants Arizona at San Francisco Kansas City at Denver Miami at New England N.Y. Jets at Buffalo Carolina at Atlanta St. Louis at Cleveland (Monday Night Game) [LOCK OF THE WEEK] options go to: Indianapolis at Tennessee Cincinnati at Baltimore ------------------------------------------ ...and as for KKK's contest... GAME OF THE WEEK New York Jets (Gert T 10-2) @ Buffalo Bills (tpww7 8-4) ...and the rest of the schedule. Cincinnati Bengals (Choken One 4-8) @ Baltimore Ravens (Dr.Tom 7-4-1) San Diego Chargers (Agent Bond34 6-6) @ Detroit Lions (Will Scarlet 6-6) Chicago Bears (Swift Terror 8-4) @ Green Bay Packers (Spaceman Spiff 4-8) Houston Texans (Bored 6-6) @ Jacksonville Jaguars (AlwaysPissedOff 4-8) Seattle Seahawks (DawnBTVS 5-6-1) @ Minnesota Vikings (razazteca 5-7) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (MarvinisaLunatic 3-9) @ New Orleans Saints (Flyboy 5-7) Washington Redskins (Human Fly 7-5) @ New York Giants (bob_barron 6-6) Dallas Cowboys (Just John 6-6) @ Philadelphia Eagles (MD2020 5-7) Oakland Raiders (LaParkaMarka 4-8) @ Pittsburgh Steelers (kkktookmybabyaway 7-5) Indianapolis Colts (Hardyz1's Ghost 5-7) @ Tennessee Titans (Cuban_Linx 9-3) Arizona Cardinals (Vern Gagne 5-7) @ San Francisco 49ers (bravesfan 7-5) Kansas City Chiefs (cartman 5-7) @ Denver Broncos (Canadian Chris 7-5) Miami Dolphins (Agent of Oblivion 7-5) @ New England Patriots (nl5xsk1 5-7) Carolina Panthers (fazzle 8-4) @ Atlanta Falcons (Lightning Flik 7-5) St. Louis Rams (cerebus316 5-7) @ Cleveland Browns (Chuck Woolery 6-6) Yep.

They only advertised it once, and it was limited to a little picture blurb at the bottom of the screen. Ross nor Lawler made the announcement of an actual wrestling "match" between them.

It's in California (San Jose, IIRC), so they should be up within the next hour.

Given the fact that he's 31 years old and an injury-prone pitcher, he'll won't sign a one-year contract with ANYONE. No one in their right mind would agree to such a contract. Give an example of how he'll do this. His farm system is in shambles, and they keep getting trading their prospects in July for a new bat.

Prospects > Pettite. You COULD keep deteriorating your farm system by signing free agents, but they shouldn't sign Pettite unless the prospects are REALLY BAD. This has been going on for 4-5 years now, and should be fixed now. RE: Bored's post. But football doesn't have a farm system - it's obviously acceptable to do this in any other sport BUT baseball. The only thing OLD about that team was the offensive line, which was consistently the best in football. Their problem was associated with the fact that most of their draft picks didn't pan out (Floyd in 1994, Stokes in 1995, Druckenmiller in 1997), with their only bright spots being Stubblefield in 1994 and Owens in 1998.

The definition of a wrestling fan is to suspend your beliefs. If you think that the WWE puts stock into pleasing the home audience over the live crowd when a match is going on, you're lacking brain matter. If you think the match sucks, fine. That's your opinion, and we respect it. But as an earlier poster has said, you shouldn't be going out of your way to nitpick on faults and flaws in the match - that just kills any enjoyment you may have. If there's a glaring problem with the match (selling, BASIC psychology, match structure, etc.) you're entitled to love/hate the match because of it. The same goes for the entertainment factor of the bout.

533.095.

Sting = Steve Austin. Harley Race = Mick Foley. Barry Windham = Shawn Michaels, Part One. Dusty Rhodes = Booker T. Terry Funk = Vince McMahon. Randy Savage = Kurt Angle. Roddy Piper = Chris Jericho. Hulk Hogan = The Rock. Ricky Steamboat = Chris Benoit. Lex Luger = Kane. And a few additions... Vader = Undertaker. Arn Anderson = Shawn Michaels, Part Deux.

1. Brock Lesnar. 2. Chris Jericho. 3. Chris Benoit. 4. Eddie Guerrero. 5. John Cena. 6. The Big Show. 7. Kurt Angle. 8. Shawn Michaels. 9. Goldberg. 10. Christian.

Dr. Tom's Ravens.

Six DVD's on sale...check them out. King of the Ring 2002 DVD (9.98) King of the Ring 2002 VHS (7.98) Vengeance 2002 DVD (9.98) Summerslam 2002 DVD (9.98) Summerslam 2002 VHS (7.98) Rebellion 2002 DVD (9.98) Rebellion 2002 VHS (7.98) Best of Confidential DVD (7.98) Best of Confidential VHS (5.98) WWE: All Ramped Up: Volume One DVD (5.98) WWE: All Ramped Up: Volume One VHS (3.98) These are all of the titles that are being offered for now. Personally, I'm DEFINITELY picking up Vengeance 2002 and...yes... the Ramped Up DVD...since it's so cheap. Wallow.

King of Queens: Complete First Season. WWE Bloodbath. Survivor Series 2003. *Backlash 2003. *Bad Blood 2003. *Unforgiven 2003. *No Mercy 2003. *Don't really want them, but they're needed to get that boxset finished.

Duh. 18. And if you're not sure if they're 18, ask for ID first.

Worst Raw Wrestler(s): Sylvain Grenier Worst SD! Wrestler(s): Nathan Jones Worst Match(es) PPV-only: Rikishi v. Sean O'Haire (Backlash) Worst Angle(s): (1) Mr. America. (2) The build-up behind Brock's heel turn in August. Worst PPV: Unforgiven Biggest Disappointment: Gail Kim And the most coveted prize of all... TSM's Most Hated: Stephanie McMahon.

Late 1999 episode of Smackdown. The Undertaker and Big Show win the tag titles in a Buried Alive match over the "Rock N' Sock Connection", after interference by then-WWF champion Triple H.

49ers = 17. Green Bay at Detroit Miami at Dallas [LOCK] Arizona at Chicago Atlanta at Houston Buffalo at N.Y. Giants Cincinnati at Pittsburgh Minnesota at St. Louis New England at Indianapolis Philadelphia at Carolina San Francisco at Baltimore New Orleans at Washington Cleveland at Seattle Denver at Oakland Kansas City at San Diego Tampa Bay at Jacksonville Tennessee at N.Y. Jets

Picks are due before the Thanksgiving Day games on Thursday. Week Thirteen Schedule Green Bay at Detroit (Thanksgiving Game) Miami at Dallas (Thanksgiving Game) Arizona at Chicago Atlanta at Houston Buffalo at N.Y. Giants Cincinnati at Pittsburgh Minnesota at St. Louis New England at Indianapolis Philadelphia at Carolina San Francisco at Baltimore New Orleans at Washington Cleveland at Seattle Denver at Oakland Kansas City at San Diego Tampa Bay at Jacksonville Tennessee at N.Y. Jets (Monday Night) [LOCK OF THE WEEK] options go to: Miami at Dallas (Thanksgiving Game) New England at Indianapolis --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ...and as for KKK's contest... Week Thirteen Matchups Green Bay Packers (Spaceman Spiff 4-7) @ Detroit Lions (Will Scarlet 6-5) Miami Dolphins (Agent of Oblivion 6-5) @ Dallas Cowboys (Just John 7-4) San Francisco 49ers (bravesfan 7-4) @ Baltimore Ravens (Dr.Tom 6-4-1) Philadelphia Eagles (MD2020 5-6) @ Carolina Panthers (fazzle 7-4) Arizona Cardinals (Vern Gagne 4-7) @ Chicago Bears (Swift Terror 8-3) Atlanta Falcons (Lightning Flik 6-5) @ Houston Texans (Bored 6-5) New England Patriots (nl5xsk1 4-7) @ Indianapolis Colts (Hardyz1's Ghost 5-6) Buffalo Bills (tpww7 7-4) @ New York Giants (bob_barron 6-5) Cincinnati Bengals (Choken One 4-7) @ Pittsburgh Steelers (kkktookmybabyaway 6-5) Minnesota Vikings (razazteca 4-7) @ St. Louis Rams (cerebus316 6-5) New Orleans Saints (Flyboy 5-6) @ Washington Redskins (Human Fly 6-5) Denver Broncos (Canadian Chris 6-5) @ Oakland Raiders (LaParkaMarka 4-7) Kansas City Chiefs (cartman 4-7) @ San Diego Chargers (Agent Bond34 6-5) Cleveland Browns (Chuck Woolery 5-6) @ Seattle Seahawks (DawnBTVS 3-6-1) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (MarvinisaLunatic 3-8) @ Jacksonville Jaguars (AlwaysPissedOff 3-8) - [GAME OF THE WEEK] Tennessee Titans (Cuban_Linx 9-2) @ New York Jets (Gert T 9-2)

I'm sure they didn't have credible sources to report it, or else they would've without a second thought. RIP Mr. Spahn.