Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Republican. Well, I'm shocked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 I'm a fiscal conservative and social liberal. I generally vote conservative because I feel the former is more important. If I was American I would certainly vote Republican. That's interesting...I'm also a fiscal conservative and social liberal, but I put a bit more emphasis on the social aspect. I would never vote for the Alliance, because I couldn't stand their stand on social issues. At times, they come off like a bunch of Pat Robertsons. I've voted Liberal since 1993, just because they're the party that best fit my ideology. However, I've voted Conservative in the provincial elections. Not that it's made a lick of difference, since my MPP happens to be the leader of the Liberal party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Republican. Well, I'm shocked Cancer Marney 1. is against the "War on Drugs" - supports complete legalisation 2. is pro-choice on abortion 3. supports licensing of all firearms and complete ban on automatic/long-range/special-purpose weapons for civilians 4. supports civil unions for homosexuals 5. interprets the First, Third, Fourth, and Fifth Amendments to the Constitution to guarantee a right to privacy 6. believes that we have a duty to promulgate democracy throughout the world (Wilson) 7. believes in a strict separation of church and state, and would support any Congressional resolutions removing "In God We Trust" from the currency and "Under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance So yes, I can understand why you're shocked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Cancer Marney 1. is against the "War on Drugs" - supports complete legalisation 2. is pro-choice on abortion 3. supports licensing of all firearms and complete ban on automatic/long-range/special-purpose weapons for civilians 4. supports civil unions for homosexuals 5. interprets the First, Third, Fourth, and Fifth Amendments to the Constitution to guarantee a right to privacy 6. believes that we have a duty to promulgate democracy throughout the world (Wilson) 7. believes in a strict separation of church and state, and would support any Congressional resolutions removing "In God We Trust" from the currency and "Under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance So yes, I can understand why you're shocked. Czech Republic 1. No 2. No 3. Yes 4. No 5. Yes 6. Yes 7. No So I'm almost over halfway in agreement with you on those things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Republican. Well, I'm shocked Cancer Marney 1. is against the "War on Drugs" - supports complete legalisation 2. is pro-choice on abortion 3. supports licensing of all firearms and complete ban on automatic/long-range/special-purpose weapons for civilians 4. supports civil unions for homosexuals 5. interprets the First, Third, Fourth, and Fifth Amendments to the Constitution to guarantee a right to privacy 6. believes that we have a duty to promulgate democracy throughout the world (Wilson) 7. believes in a strict separation of church and state, and would support any Congressional resolutions removing "In God We Trust" from the currency and "Under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance So yes, I can understand why you're shocked. I was joking, since you've firmly established your Republican-ism in the CE folder Though I do agree with most of those points Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 I'm a fiscal conservative and social liberal. I generally vote conservative because I feel the former is more important. If I was American I would certainly vote Republican. That's interesting...I'm also a fiscal conservative and social liberal, but I put a bit more emphasis on the social aspect. I would never vote for the Alliance, because I couldn't stand their stand on social issues. At times, they come off like a bunch of Pat Robertsons. I've voted Liberal since 1993, just because they're the party that best fit my ideology. However, I've voted Conservative in the provincial elections. Not that it's made a lick of difference, since my MPP happens to be the leader of the Liberal party. I'm roughly there as well. Is that a "Red Tory"? I think the Alliance is a bit too far right for my tastes, and I think that the new Conservative Party of Canada is off to a bad start since their leader will be voted on right around the time when Paul Martin calls an election. Bob Rae managed to take a bad situation and make it worse during his tenure as Ontario Premier, which soured me on the NDP for everything but the municipal level. So this April (or thereabouts), I'll be voting Liberal (and for my incumbent), simply because there really isn't another good, stable Party this time around. And for the record, I voted PC last provincial election, and I think that my MPP (Frank Klees) is one of the few Tories left in parliament. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swift Terror 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 I'm pretty much your worst nightmare: a saber-rattling jingoist who pays attention to G. Gordon Liddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommytomlin 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 I vote for the Australian Labor Party here, and they're close to the Democrats, so I guess Dean's getting my vote if I was kidnapped and turned into an American citizen through drugging and then a 24-hour monster truck marathon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Monster Trucks own bitch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Cancer Marney 1. is against the "War on Drugs" - supports complete legalisation 2. is pro-choice on abortion 3. supports licensing of all firearms and complete ban on automatic/long-range/special-purpose weapons for civilians 4. supports civil unions for homosexuals 5. interprets the First, Third, Fourth, and Fifth Amendments to the Constitution to guarantee a right to privacy 6. believes that we have a duty to promulgate democracy throughout the world (Wilson) 7. believes in a strict separation of church and state, and would support any Congressional resolutions removing "In God We Trust" from the currency and "Under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance Oddly enough, I agree with all of those points. Every single one, in fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 See, that's why it doesn't mean much to label yourself with a party. Marney is a Republican with some un-Republican view. You gotta take it issue by issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted December 9, 2003 See, that's why it doesn't mean much to label yourself with a party. Marney is a Republican with some un-Republican view. You gotta take it issue by issue. That's why I don't have a party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 See, that's why it doesn't mean much to label yourself with a party. Marney is a Republican with some un-Republican view. You gotta take it issue by issue. That's why I don't have a party. Join those of us in the Dark Side, JMA. I mainly vote Republican in larger elections, but somewhat independently in smaller or local elections. I'm not registered or anything, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Join those of us in the Dark Side, JMA. I'LL NEVER JOIN YOU~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Wildbomb 4:20 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 I tend to vote Republican for state elections. Nationally, I tend to pick Dems or liberal independents; I usually agree with them more often on more issues. I was originally an independent because of the old MA voting laws, but because they were changed to only allow party members to vote in respective primaries (instead of also allowing indies), I decided to join up with the Dems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 And yet everyone calls me a conservative or Republican without knowing where I stand on issues. Some even call me a RACIST~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 And yet everyone calls me a conservative or Republican without knowing where I stand on issues. Some even call me a RACIST~! Do you have something against racists!? You RACIST-IST! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 I prefer the term hatemonger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Cancer Marney 1. is against the "War on Drugs" - supports complete legalisation 2. is pro-choice on abortion 3. supports licensing of all firearms and complete ban on automatic/long-range/special-purpose weapons for civilians 4. supports civil unions for homosexuals 5. interprets the First, Third, Fourth, and Fifth Amendments to the Constitution to guarantee a right to privacy 6. believes that we have a duty to promulgate democracy throughout the world (Wilson) 7. believes in a strict separation of church and state, and would support any Congressional resolutions removing "In God We Trust" from the currency and "Under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance Oddly enough, I agree with all of those points. Every single one, in fact. ::scans newspapers for reports of suicides in the northern VA area:: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 As for me... I'm a registered Independent. Historically, I've voted for Republicans because I like their platforms and ideas better. I've seen few Democrats I've even liked, let alone considered worthy of my vote. I'm a social liberal, and a fiscal and foreign policy conservative. I was in Milton Friedman's quadrant on the political compass test. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ISportsFan 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Cancer Marney 1. is against the "War on Drugs" - supports complete legalisation 2. is pro-choice on abortion 3. supports licensing of all firearms and complete ban on automatic/long-range/special-purpose weapons for civilians 4. supports civil unions for homosexuals 5. interprets the First, Third, Fourth, and Fifth Amendments to the Constitution to guarantee a right to privacy 6. believes that we have a duty to promulgate democracy throughout the world (Wilson) 7. believes in a strict separation of church and state, and would support any Congressional resolutions removing "In God We Trust" from the currency and "Under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance So yes, I can understand why you're shocked. ISportsFan: 1) Yes, against the "War on Drugs" in its current form, but I will not support legalization 2) Not at all, unless it's absolutely necessary 3) Yes 4) Yes, give them the same rights as marriage but no title of "married" 5) Yes, for the most part 6) Yes 7) Yes to separation, no to getting rid of God. The Constitution uses God and gives freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. If you don't believe in God, live with the fact that the country you live in does. Jason, a (2.32, 2.83) on the compass and will be a registered Republican when I go home and register but will not tow the party line in elections. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 I believe old people should eat dog food.... Guess that makes me a mean old Republican. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest stardust Report post Posted December 9, 2003 (edited) I think I'm steadily getting more and more liberal. Economic Left/Right: -5.25 Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.90 I forgot to add that I was in Ghandi's quadrant on the Political Compass test. Edited December 9, 2003 by stardust Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DARRYLXWF 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 I'm a strong liberal in the classical european sense, which I guess makes me a republican. Which leads me to ask, how the hell did America turn the term 'liberal' into a left wing label? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Which leads me to ask, how the hell did America turn the term 'liberal' into a left wing label? Well, let's see what dictionary.com has to say on the matter. lib-er-al a: Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. b: Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded. c: Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism. d: Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States. lib·er·al·ism 1: The state or quality of being liberal. 2: a: A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority. b: often Liberalism The tenets or policies of a Liberal party. c: An economic theory in favor of laissez-faire, the free market, and the gold standard. Liberalism And finally... left 2: often Left a: The people and groups who advocate liberal, often radical measures to effect change in the established order, especially in politics, usually to achieve the equality, freedom, and well-being of the common citizens of a state. Also called left wing. b: The opinion of those advocating such measures. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DARRYLXWF 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 (edited) I'm still not satisfied. I'm guessing the word liberal comes from 'liberty', which obviously means freedom. But political philosophy over the past several hundred years has used the term liberal to essentially describe a free market society with more oppurtunity and respect for the individual, with less government intervention and more choice for the individual. Thus, even though both parties advocate these principles, wouldn' logic suggest that the politically right leaning party should have the term 'liberal'? Edited December 9, 2003 by DARRYLXWF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted December 9, 2003 The problem though is that dictionary.com is an American interpretation of the word. I'm guessing the word liberal comes from 'liberty', which obviously means freedom. But political philosophy over the past several hundred years has used the term liberal to essentially describe a free market society with more oppurtunity and respect for the individual, with less government intervention and more choice for the individual. Thus, even though both parties advocate these principles, wouldn' logic suggest that the politically right leaning party should have the term 'liberal'? The problem is the two dominant parties (the Democrats and Republicans)don't favor one particular ideology. It all depends on the individual. Liberalism in America today seems to stress new ideas and more personal freedom (though there are MANY exceptions to this). There's still a lot of the old definition in there though (such as the belief in the basic goodness of humanity). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 And for the record, I voted PC last provincial election, and I think that my MPP (Frank Klees) is one of the few Tories left in parliament. Mine (John O'Toole) retained as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 I'm a self hating Democrat. I pre-registered when I got my driver's license and since my family are Democrats I did the same, but since then as I've learned more about politics and followed the news I've realized I'm quite conservative and support the President. I've thought about changing parties but my dad (who's also grown more conservative) says I should stay D so I can vote in the primaries, which should be fun. Afterall, in the end I can vote for whoever I want anyway. Wheew, that's probably more than you needed to know! Be a man and make the switch. It's great fun. I remember showing my dad -- an old pro-union guy from Pittsburgh -- my voter registration card stating I was in the GOP camp and he recoiled in terror and nearly collapsed from a heart attack. Registered Republican. The only Democrat I have ever voted for was State Rep. David Mayernik, although I'll probably vote for Jack Wagner if he runs for a state-wide office next election. And I think Dan Onorato is a good guy, too, although I couldn't (and wouldn't have) voted for him for Allegheny County Chief Exec. -- I live in Westmoreland County. And Zell Miller > Lincoln Chafee, Jim Jeffords, Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, Arlen Specter, Trent Lott, John McCain, and others to be named later. Like I said in the past, Zell's my n*gga... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BDC Report post Posted December 9, 2003 I'm just pretty much a Republican. Granted, my big liberal issue falls pretty much on education, but I'm also a big fan of the right to privacy. Eh, take it for what you will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites