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[Lord of The Curry 0]

Not that you know of. It's Test so we can at least be sure it's happened.

[El Psycho Diablo 0]

Statement: Chris Jericho has lost all credibility after years of floundering in the midcard, and would no longer make a believable WWE champion.

Rebuttal: If Benoit, after years of doing the same thing..can get a title run, then Jericho can, too. Especially with Jericho's much superior mic skills and the ability to get a crowd behind him. A serious push could erase the bad that's been done to him.

[geniusMoment 0]

Statement: It is impossible for the phrase "you fiend" to ever catch on in this day and age. No one can create a scenerio where that phrase could catch on.

[DCMaximo 0]

Statement 2: If the WWE had fired Tomko and used Sean O'Haire in the "Christian's Enforcer" role, it would have been better for everyone (bar Tomko, of course)

I don't see how. O'Haire is almost as bad in the ring as Tomko (as he showed last year). I assume he's still playing the bodyguard who stands around and says nothing job that Tomko has when he's not wrestling correct? If so, how can one person do that better than any other?

Rebuttal: Because O'Haire looks far more intimidating than Tomko. Tomko has a goofy-looking face that doesn't look at all scary, whereas O'Haire could look truly intimidating. The key factor is in the eyes: O'Haire had a look of intensity, whereas Tomko often just looks bewildered.

 

Besides which, Tomko does wrestle as well, and while O'Haire isn't very popular on this board, he's certainly better in the ring than Tomko.

[The Czech Republic 0]

Statement: If they got rid of the the "winner gets a WrestleMania title shot" stip every year, the Royal Rumble would be far more interesting, as it would give a wider spectrum of possible winners

One of the best Rumbles in terms of not being able to call the winner is 1992. 1992 was the only year in which the match was for the championship. They've gotta find a way to make the match be for the title again, and we'll be set.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Statement: Chris Jericho has lost all credibility after years of floundering in the midcard, and would no longer make a believable WWE champion.

Rebuttal: They can rebuild anyone given enough time. If they wanted Jericho to main event WM XXI, with him pinning Triple H clean to win the 'Raw' title, and actually wanted it to draw, they could make it happen.

 

That's what makes things so frustrating at times with WWE, is that they can do so much better with the talent they have, yet are either unable or unwilling to.

[King Cucaracha 0]

Statement: Rob Van Dam, while better than JBL before anyone prepares to use that arguement, is not a good candidate to hold the WWE Championship.

[Guest TheLastBoyscout]

Statement: If they got rid of the the "winner gets a WrestleMania title shot" stip every year, the Royal Rumble would be far more interesting, as it would give a wider spectrum of possible winners

One of the best Rumbles in terms of not being able to call the winner is 1992. 1992 was the only year in which the match was for the championship. They've gotta find a way to make the match be for the title again, and we'll be set.

The Rumble worked so well that year, not because it was for the title, but because it was built around a guy who was by far the best worker in the company.

[Guest TheLastBoyscout]

Statement: It's criminal that Arn Anderson never got the shot Benoit got recently considering that he was by far a more complete performer.

[Hoff 0]

Statement: Rob Van Dam, while better than JBL before anyone prepares to use that arguement, is not a good candidate to hold the WWE Championship.

Rebuttal: RVD has loads of charisma. He's not conventional by any means, but he's even now still somewhat over, and I feel his style of promo actually lends itself well to the demographic. He'd be something new in the ME mix. He'd be a great face champion because he bumps well, and the crowd is behind him, and his "educated feet" could make for some righteous hope spots. And, his finisher is STILL over like gangbusters, which is important. People will by the ***** winning matches against A-level guys.

[Hoff 0]

Statement: It's criminal that Arn Anderson never got the shot Benoit got recently considering that he was by far a more complete performer.

Based on the limited Anderson stuff that I've seen (VERY limited), Benoit's in-ring work seems more...vicious. That compliments his no-nonsense character very well. Anderson may be a better talker, but Benoit doesn't need to be.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Statement 2: If the WWE had fired Tomko and used Sean O'Haire in the "Christian's Enforcer" role, it would have been better for everyone (bar Tomko, of course)

I don't see how. O'Haire is almost as bad in the ring as Tomko (as he showed last year). I assume he's still playing the bodyguard who stands around and says nothing job that Tomko has when he's not wrestling correct? If so, how can one person do that better than any other?

Rebuttal: Is it me, or do you think they could find someone better to do this job? I mean, if he were healthy right now, make Test the bodyguard/problem solver. Both Christian and Tests worked together as the Un-Americans and Test works as a bodyguard. He's got the look, size and he can decntly wrestle. Let Christian do the talking and he's set.

Statement: They should have re-packaged Chuck Palumbo as Trish's "problem solver".

[Lord of The Curry 0]

I love Arn but there's no way he's better then Benoit (cept on the mic, obviously.) It's been said before but it needs to be said again; Arn would make a great mouthpiece for Benoit.

[Guest Rrrsh]

Statement: If they got rid of the the "winner gets a WrestleMania title shot" stip every year, the Royal Rumble would be far more interesting, as it would give a wider spectrum of possible winners

 

Statement 2: If the WWE had fired Tomko and used Sean O'Haire in the "Christian's Enforcer" role, it would have been better for everyone (bar Tomko, of course)

Rebuttal: They should make it Winner gets a shot next week on Raw/SD or at least winner gets a shot at No Way Out.

[Guest Rrrsh]

Statement: Chris Jericho has lost all credibility after years of floundering in the midcard, and would no longer make a believable WWE champion.

Rebuttal: No way. The fans right now would cheer him and get behind him EASY. They would care about him more than they ever will care about HHH.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

Statement:

Had Heyman accepted Vince McMahon's offer of funding the last ECW PPV, Living Dangerously '01, and even sending HHH down to work (I do believe this was the rumor around the time, only Heyman didn't accept), then the InVasion angle would have started both sooner and been better, with three factions (WCW vs. ECW vs. WWF) instead of just the Alliance vs. WWF.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Rebuttal: Disagreed. The fundamental problem with the InVasion still would not have been changed had that happened. That problem being Vince's unwillingness to let the "invaders" take over, Vince pushing HIS guys in the top spots of the "invaders", and Vince putting his family to the forefront of the feud. Not-to-mention Vince not signing the big WCW stars like Sting and Flair, and guys like Hogan, Hall and Nash.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Rebuttal: Not enough people ever gave a shit about ECW to begin with. The real battle was WCW vs. WWF. ECW never should have been involved in the first place.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

Actually, Kahran, I beg to differ. Towards the end of WCW, mid 2000 until its closing, WCW were drawing around the same amount of fans as ECW was, with similar buyrates (though I wouldn't be surprised at all if ECW's were higher, since ECW fans seemed to be more diehard), so the same amount of people that gave a shit about WCW after the New Blood angle started was about the same amount of people still into ECW.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

(Regarding Unforgiven)

 

Statement: The real loser tonight after HHH has beaten Orton for the title is not Randy, but rather, the guy Randy beat clean-as-a-sheet and who also curtain jerked the PPV tonight, Chris Benoit. By having such a short title reign, it completely kills Benoits "put over" of Orton at Summerslam.

[CanadianChick 0]

Statement: The only reason Orton got the belt was for WWE to say that he's the youngest wrestler to ever hold a world title level championship in WWE and that it wasn't Brock anymore.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Rebuttal: Disagreed. Though I think that was probably part of their reasoning (like say 10%, cause they're petty like that), I'd say the majority of their jumping-the-gun was that they were eager to get into a Orton/HHH feud, as-well-as pushing Orton to the top. They wanted to ride the wave of face-support he simply wasn't getting enough of to carry him as a top face star.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Actually, Kahran, I beg to differ. Towards the end of WCW, mid 2000 until its closing, WCW were drawing around the same amount of fans as ECW was, with similar buyrates (though I wouldn't be surprised at all if ECW's were higher, since ECW fans seemed to be more diehard), so the same amount of people that gave a shit about WCW after the New Blood angle started was about the same amount of people still into ECW.

Rebuttal: ECW was basically a glorified regional promotion. WCW, being a national promotion, one that was very successful competing against the WWF (for a bit), one that more common fans were familiar with, would be the obvious choice. During the Monday Night Wars, the "dream scenario" was WCW vs. WWF. ECW was never mentioned in the same regards.

 

(I liked watching ECW, btw)

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Rebuttal: ECW's inclusion into the feud was the Invasions best moment (IMO) and quite possibly only "good" moment that abomination produced. Granted, it was completely shut-down when Steph became 'owner', but for at least a moment the Invasion produced something good. At least for me it did. Without ECW, the Invasion would have produced nothing at all.

[Shooting Star 0]

I hate indy wrestling.

[Australian Pride 0]

I hate indy wrestling.

Thanks for sharing.

 

Statement: William Regal needs to be the next PPV challenger to the world title.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Something tells me that we'll finally see that clean HHH victory over Benoit very soon..........

[Hoff 0]

Statement: The real loser tonight after HHH has beaten Orton for the title is not Randy, but rather, the guy Randy beat clean-as-a-sheet and who also curtain jerked the PPV tonight, Chris Benoit. By having such a short title reign, it completely kills Benoits "put over" of Orton at Summerslam.

Rebuttal: None. This is absolutely the case, and it's sad.

 

Statement: The only reason Orton got the belt was for WWE to say that he's the youngest wrestler to ever hold a world title level championship in WWE and that it wasn't Brock anymore.

Rebuttal: I believe that was the case, to begin with, but it seemed like they were ready to get behind Orton. And, maybe they still are. But they didn't do him any favors tonight.

 

Statement: Paul London will never hold any singles gold in WWE other than the Cruiserweight Title.

[Hoff 0]

Oh! Didn't see this one.

 

Statement: William Regal needs to be the next PPV challenger to the world title.

Rebuttal: Randy needs to get his rematch, be it tomorrow night or at the Halloween PPV or whenever. Besides, there's money to be had in a Regal/Flair feud, in the short-term anyway.

[Australian Pride 0]

Statement: Paul London will never hold any singles gold in WWE other than the Cruiserweight Title.

Rebuttal: True. As much as i'd like to say that one day he will get a short (or even long) reign as US/IC champ I dont think it will happen. They wont elevate Rey to being a heavyweight beater so they wont elevate London.