LOST

[The Electrifyer 0]

Hopefully, for all those who hated the last episode, this one totally made up for it by showing what it led too. (Heel Charlie!)

[slimm44 0]

I'm psyched. LOST BABY LOST!

 

Anyone know if there are any more breaks in the season?

 

If any show needs to switch to 24, The Shield, Battlestar like "non-stop seasons", its LOST.

 

 

I read the schedule list on a forum. Trying to find it but I think February 22nd is the last new episode until March 22nd. Then they have another three week break in April, leading to May with fresh episodes and the two hour season finale. I'll post the schedule when I find it

 

Edit/Update: My information might have been false. TV.com is saying next week's episode is the last new one until March 1st. Sorry I can't find the list I had earlier.

[iliketurtles 0]

Sawyer might honestly be the best character on the show right now. He has the most intresting episodes (all three have been extremely well-written and he's got an awesome character) and him having glimpses of a good guy since they left on the raft, well, it's now James f'n Ford of old that we saw tonight.

 

Sawyer's speech to the rest of the camp tonight was the best thing they've written on this show in weeks. And Kate's mom as the waitress at the restaurant was a nice twist.

 

And even though last week's episode blew ass, Charlie being in on Sawyer's deal is definately a great turn and now he's 100% bad and I love it.

 

I'm the biggest fan in the world of Jack and Locke, but Jack's story has been pretty much been told and Locke's character is not the original mysterious guy we all fell in love with. It' almost like comparing Kane of 1997 to Kane of 2006. Totally different.

 

Next week looks great.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

I thought for sure Sawyer was getting conned by Cassie.

 

Didn't see the Sawyer turn coming, and the Charlie part took me completely by surprise. Great episode.

[iliketurtles 0]

I'll be honest, when they had Sawyer go back to the woods at the end, I was figuring it to be Zeke or Danielle or something ridlicious like that.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Oh, and another Steve/Scott reference. Those never get old.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Yeah tonight's episode was the best since "The Other 48 Days". Not to say the ones in between sucked, though.

 

Next week looks awesome for you Sayid fans. Countdown at 0!!!

[chirs3 0]

Goddamn, that was a great episode. I love that Charlie is now officially a son of a bitch, and Sawyer's speech to the rest of the survivors was gold. I didn't really know what to expect out of tonight's episode, but they took things in a direction I never would have guessed.

[Gert T 0]

Great episode tonight. It was amazing to me because I found two different levels of hate for Sawyer. First, when he decided he would help Locke. Then when he had his speech (which to me sounded similar to Powers Boothe's in Tombstone). And don't get me wrong, he's probably my favorite character, it just means the writers did a great job become I'm sure some of you thought "wow, what an asshole". The deal with Charlie makes it even cooler. Another brilliant part of Sawyer's plan. Pick the most hated person on the island and the one acting crazy lately. To me the final scene also showed that each character has their kryptonite. Sawyer's is obviously getting attached to those he cons. Charlie's is still trying to prove to Claire that he has no interest in drugs. Wanting Locke to look bad is good enough for me. Surprised Charlie didn't ask for a gun in exchange, but we'll see where it goes.

 

I also like Hurley's joke about time being stopped as well, nice little wink to theories out there.

 

Wonder if Locke will try to get help from his "landlords", who may be the only other people with guns right now.

[BlackFlagg 0]

will also be interesting to see how Sawyer uses Charlie, "Sun can never know what I did to her."=Sawyer owns Charlie's ass~!

[Magus 0]

AWESOME episode tonight. Sawyer was getting pussified for a while there, but he's BACK. Locke used to be my main guy on the show, but he's lost his edge. Sawyer is now THE MAN.

 

I also like Charlie's role now as a skeezy little shit. He was boring before. I thought that Sayid would be Sawyer's accomplice, but Charlie works even better, especially with his hate for Locke.

 

Next week should kick ass, and I hope the flashbacks will center on Sayid. They've done nothing with him since Shannon's death, and they desperately need to show how he's handling it mentally.

[Mik 0]

Timer reaches zero.

 

Whoa.

 

Next week looks like a thriller.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Odds are the countdown isn't big at all. LOST has this habit of putting in things in the preview (Hurley and Sayid getting a signal, Sun getting kidnapped) that aren't the focus of the show.

 

MAN, I wish the LOST writers booked and wrote wrestling. That heel turn was fucking awesome, and Charlie doing his dirty work and all the conflict between Locke, Jack, Ana Lucia, and Kate.

[UZI Suicide 0]

You know what's gonna happen, right? The clock hits 0 and the episode will end, and then we'll get some fucking month long break before we find out what happens.

 

Although Rudo is probably right, it may end up not even being a big deal. Or maybe it isn't even real, maybe it's just Locke or someone dreaming that it hits 0.

[Hawkius Maximus 0]

That episode was awwwwesome.

 

What I loved, is it makes perfect sense. Sawyer needed someone to help him, and Charlie desperately needs SOME type of ally on that island after what happened It also sets up the tag team feud between Locke/Jack and Sawyer/Charlie. Sawyer & Jack hate each other, and Charlie hates Locke's fucking guts now.

 

Charlie's totally fucked if Sawyer somehow lets it slipped. After how he reacted, Jin would kill Charlie DEAD.

[UZI Suicide 0]

Sun's Kidnapper

 

 

Doesn't look like Charlie to me.

[brokentusk16 0]

GREAT episode! Outside of this one, The Other 48 Days and the 23rd Psalm are all competing for best episode of the season.

 

I'm now convinced that Charlie will become one of The Others by next season. He's isolated from the group, and has become highly skilled in hiding and stealth (which The Others excel at). Think about it, at the start of the season, Locked knew Charlie was following him to the hatch. Now Charlie trailed him stashing the guns without Locke knowing at all.

 

That said, the survival of these people looks pretty bad. They are not trusting each other or working together, and that will prove to be their undoing. The Others will totally take advantage of their mistrust and will be able to easily pick them off. I'm predicting at least one major character death by the end of the season because of it.

[nl5xsk1 0]

... Surprised Charlie didn't ask for a gun in exchange, but we'll see where it goes.

I actually thought about that, and my presumption (hope?) is that he grabbed a gun before telling Sawyer where the guns are hidden. Of course, I also presume/hope that maybe a statue or two disappeared with Charlie while he was grabbing his gun.

 

Sawyer's "heel turn" (man, I hate using wrestling references in non-wrestling scenarios, but it's just so damn perfect) was about as awesome as one could be. The backstory about the long con kind of gave away that he was going to be screwing SOMEONE over ... it was just a matter of whom. And I didn't predict that he'd be screwing EVERYONE over. Charlie was one of the two people that I thought could be in cahoots with Sawyer (AL was the other), so it wasn't wicked surprising for it to be him that was the one that followed Locke.

 

One thing I didn't like: AL getting Scott & Steve mixed up. Yeah, it was funny for us, the viewer, that have enjoyed that running gag over the two seasons ... but AL wasn't around when both Scott & Steve were alive ... she's only met one, so has no reason to get them confused.

 

Line of the night (and I'm paraphrasing, because I'm wicked bad at exact quotes): 'One sec, Doc, I've almost got the high score in Donkey Kong.'

[Stephen Joseph 0]

Okay, so umm, here's my thoughts

 

1) Locke never got conned. Anna-Lucia, Jack et. al. got conned. There's no way Locke couldn't track Sawyer. This is all a power-play. Who's doing the real Long Con?

 

It isn't Sawyer. It could in fact be Locke. After all, Locke accomplished his goal to get the weapons away from Jack, but now he doesn't look liek the bad guy, because Sawyer took the fall.

 

Charlie tracking Locke? I call Bullshit.

 

In fact, I'm calling the whole Charlie/Locke thing total misdirection. Jack and Co just got played by the real players.

 

 

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[Cowboy Battlenuts 0]

I knew Sawyer was involved in the kidnapping right when it happened, even though I was completely unsure. Whoever did it was wearing a watch, so right after it happened I was frantically looking to see who had a watch. The only one I spotted was Sawyer when he brought Sun to the tent. Would of been easy math if he wasn't with Kate when she screamed.

 

I think the Hurley/Sayid thing about time was more than just a wink to the conspiracy theorists. Usually those subtle things are glossed right over, this one we were given time to think about it, to reflect on what was just said.

 

It's hard to see where everything's going right now, Michael is somewhere in the jungle looking for Walt, Desmond has yet to return, the black smoke hasn't been talked about since we saw it, the camp's in total chaos right as we're expecting them to come together for this 'war', and now on top of that it seems we're gonna find out what happens when the timer reaches 0. The coolest part of all that is gonna be seeing how it all connects.

 

And there's something about Vincent. I don't know what it is but that dog shows up everytime some shit goes down, and that can't be a coincidence.

[nl5xsk1 0]

Okay, so umm, here's my thoughts

 

1) Locke never got conned. Anna-Lucia, Jack et. al. got conned. There's no way Locke couldn't track Sawyer. This is all a power-play. Who's doing the real Long Con?

 

It isn't Sawyer. It could in fact be Locke. After all, Locke accomplished his goal to get the weapons away from Jack, but now he doesn't look liek the bad guy, because Sawyer took the fall.

 

Charlie tracking Locke? I call Bullshit.

 

In fact, I'm calling the whole Charlie/Locke thing total misdirection. Jack and Co just got played by the real players.

 

 

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Stephen J ... you gave us a 1), but no 2), 3), etc ... was there more than that?

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

I liked how Sayid pulled in Glenn Miller on the short-wave radio.

 

How'd Glenn Miller die? Plane crash.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

That''s fucked up, lol. These writers are too nerdy for their own good.

 

SJ, ya boy got played.

 

I would like it to turn out that Sayid was really just a Radio Shack employee that made up all the stories about being in the Republican Guard.

 

Though I do like how Hurley and Sayid were hangin, since Hurley was one of the first guys to talk to Sayid in the pilot.

[Stephen Joseph 0]

There's more to what's going on than they're letting us see.

 

You don't have a conversation with the survivors, like Zeke did, without being in a position of relative uncertainty.

 

Conclusion #1 : The survivors have numbers, and weapons, to match Zeke & Co.

 

You don't pull off the Long Con by doing it yourself. The target of the Long Con does it for you.

 

Conclusion #2 : Sure, Sawyer pulled off the Con. Supposedly. But there's more that we didn't see. Either a) Kate or b) Locke is really pulling off the LONG CON.

 

Conclusion #3 : Goodbye Charlie. You've gone mad.

 

Does anyone not notice that the survivors are NOT acting logical? I would think that, given the circumstances, they would be banding together, scouting, training, given ALL that they have seen.

 

Conclusion #4 : Something's not right in the head with these guys

 

Random observation: The trees moved and went crazy the first night. I think we can all assume that it was the Smokie thing. Now the Spy made it in, but 2 bucks says the security system was killing the more animalistic Others.

 

Random observation: Why hasn't Hurley lost 40 pounds?

 

Random observation: Who the hell listens to swing music in the middle of the Pacific?

 

Random observation: Danielle sure knows how to take care of things...I mean, aren't ALL scientists like MacGyver

 

Conclusion: She ain't no damn scientist, plain and simple. Never was. Relief Crew.

[The Metal Maniac 0]

You don't have a conversation with the survivors, like Zeke did, without being in a position of relative uncertainty.

 

Conclusion #1 : The survivors have numbers, and weapons, to match Zeke & Co.

 

I don't think that's a fair conclusion to reach. Could be that the Others just don't like the fact that the survivors are going wherever they please on the island. Perhaps the others could easily eliminate the survivors, but decided to at least warn them that shit is gonna hit the fan if they keep messing around, rather then going through the time, effort, and risk of killing them all.

 

But yeah, awesome episode. It's gonna be really interesting to see not only who wants guns, but who is able to get guns.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

What was the title of the manuscript that Hurley found? "The Lost Twin" or "The Dark Twin", something like that?

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

I liked how Sayid pulled in Glenn Miller on the short-wave radio.

 

How'd Glenn Miller die? Plane crash.

 

 

That''s fucked up, lol. These writers are too nerdy for their own good.

Actually, if you want to get technical, Miller "disappeared" in a plane accident. Says Wikipedia:

 

On December 15, 1944, he was scheduled to fly from England to Paris to play for the soldiers who had recently liberated the city. His plane departed from Twinwoods Airfield, Clapham, a village near Bedford, but disappeared over the English Channel and was never found. Miller's disappearence remains a mystery; the fact that neither Miller's remains nor the wreckage of his plane were ever recovered from the Channel have led to many conspiracy theories over the years. A popular theory holds that, in the foggy weather that bedeviled the Channel on that day, Glenn Miller's plane strayed into a "safe drop" zone and was bombed out of the air by Canadian Air Force bombers disposing of bombs that went unused during an aborted bombing run on German positions.

[Stephen Joseph 0]

You don't have a conversation with the survivors, like Zeke did, without being in a position of relative uncertainty.

 

Conclusion #1 : The survivors have numbers, and weapons, to match Zeke & Co.

 

I don't think that's a fair conclusion to reach. Could be that the Others just don't like the fact that the survivors are going wherever they please on the island. Perhaps the others could easily eliminate the survivors, but decided to at least warn them that shit is gonna hit the fan if they keep messing around, rather then going through the time, effort, and risk of killing them all.

 

But yeah, awesome episode. It's gonna be really interesting to see not only who wants guns, but who is able to get guns.

 

Why bother if you have the means to swat the hornet? You only open negotiations when your position is tenous, or the projected losses bothersome. They are NOT that strong

[nl5xsk1 0]

What was the title of the manuscript that Hurley found? "The Lost Twin" or "The Dark Twin", something like that?

 

It was called "Bad Twin", and it's being released in real life ... stolen from cnn.com (via spoilerfix.com) ...

 

The ABC television network and sister publishing label Hyperion Books are taking the concept of product placement into a new direction -- by turning an imaginary product into a real one. Producers of ABC's mega-hit castaway thriller "Lost" plan to introduce a new storyline centering on the discovery of a fictitious manuscript that will become the basis for a real-life novel that Hyperion will publish this spring. The book will then be promoted as the work of an author, named Gary Troup, who supposedly delivered the manuscript to Hyperion days before perishing in the show's stage-setting event, a plane crash that maroons a group of survivors on a spooky island. The "Lost" novel, titled "Bad Twin," is described as a private eye mystery about a wealthy heir's search for his evil sibling.

[The Metal Maniac 0]

Why bother if you have the means to swat the hornet?

 

Because it'd be easier for everyone if the hornets just stayed in the hive. Don't wanna get stung while you're swatting at them.

 

I really don't think the survivors are that much of a risk to the Others, numbers or otherwise. The Others were following Jack and Locke and them for how long before they revealed themselves? Their advantage is not in their numbers or their weapons, but the fact that the island is their home turf; they apparantly understand how to hide on it better then anyone, and no matter how many guns or people you have, you can't win a war against people you can't even find.

 

And besides, those weren't negotiations; it was more "stay the fuck outta here or we'll fucking kill you". That's not negotiations, that's demands.