What now for Nick Dinsmore?

[Guest ally mccoist]

I can't believe so many people think Dinsmores career is dead and that he should never have gone with the gimmick. Eugene has been the only interesting character on WWE television for ages and Dinsmore would probably never have got on tv without it. He took a dodgy gimmick and made it work. Fairplay to him. And theres still mileage in Eugene yet. We haven't seen "Eugene goes to Wrestlemania!" yet, so the gimmick and Dinsmore's career is far from over.

[Guest TheLastBoyscout]

The anti-Eugene sentiment is greatly exaggerated here. I heard "LET'S GO EUGENE" chants last night and he got a big pop for a midcarder.

[JHawk 0]

The crowd was chanting "Let's go Eugene" as Triple H was toying with him like 10 seconds before he walked out the door.

 

Either he's over, or Triple H is the most over heel ever, and I know the latter ain't true.

[Magus 0]

This could work out well if they don't do the "it was all an act!" swerve, and if they don't just throw him over to Smackdown and forget about him.

 

Just have Eugene return with a different personality. Instead of saying he was a retard, they can say he was just schitzo and that was his "innocent" persona. The new one could be Nick Dinsmore, and he could be evil or something. Foley did a good job of his character actually being many characters when he was in WWE. Just like he used Mankind, Dude Love, and Cactus, Dinsmore could probably work the Eugene and Nick dynamic of good and evil brothers in the same body. I'd like to see him return as a heel and start a fued with Benoit, personally.

[Silence 0]

The anti-Eugene sentiment is greatly exaggerated here.

You can blame HHH for most of that, obviously.

[Guest TheLastBoyscout]

This could work out well if they don't do the "it was all an act!" swerve, and if they don't just throw him over to Smackdown and forget about him.

 

Just have Eugene return with a different personality. Instead of saying he was a retard, they can say he was just schitzo and that was his "innocent" persona. The new one could be Nick Dinsmore, and he could be evil or something. Foley did a good job of his character actually being many characters when he was in WWE. Just like he used Mankind, Dude Love, and Cactus, Dinsmore could probably work the Eugene and Nick dynamic of good and evil brothers in the same body. I'd like to see him return as a heel and start a fued with Benoit, personally.

Why go with over complicated drivel? Why not go with what's working?

[Vampiro69 0]

I honestly think that Dinsmore could be ok if he comes back in a few months. They could at the time give him a good haircut and not have him act all retarded. I do think that many of the fans wouldn't recognize him if he gets rid of the Eugene manerisms.

 

So get rid of the crappy hair maybe tone up and get a tan you have a new wrestler that a majority of the fans wouldn't recognize

[Vampiro69 0]

I honestly think that Dinsmore could be ok if he comes back in a few months. They could at the time give him a good haircut and not have him act all retarded. I do think that many of the fans wouldn't recognize him if he gets rid of the Eugene manerisms.

 

So get rid of the crappy hair maybe tone up and get a tan you have a new wrestler that a majority of the fans wouldn't recognize

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

The anti-Eugene sentiment is greatly exaggerated here.

You can blame HHH for most of that, obviously.

Why don't you go ahead and blame Triple H for cancer or Aids...heck even both!!

 

You fuckers blame him for everything.

 

Triple H fueded with the guy, and put him over on several occasions. The blow off of the fued needed to be done to get triple H over as a viable opponent for Orton. had he barely slipped by a "mentally disabled" wrestler in a cage match, he'd look weak.

[Guest bigm350]

Maybe put him in a mask, with different mannerisms. That could possibly work.

[AlaskanHero 0]

There's no reason the "I was faking it" thing wouldn't work. Hell, it wouldn't be that hard.

 

At the PPV, during the HHH/Orton match, Evolution comes out to help HHH. Ric distracts the ref, Batista goes in and hits a power move. HHH goes for the pin and Orton kicks out. Few moments of silence then Ric tries the distraction again. This time Eugene runs out with a chair and slides into the ring. It looks like he's gonna his HHH, but he swerves and pops Orton good. Eugene gets out of the ring and HHH gets the win. Then Evolution beats on Orton, the show ending with Evo standing over the bloodied Orton with JR screaming "WHY EUGENE WHY?!"

 

On Raw, we see Eugene has cut his hair and beard and is looking all heelish in a suit, hanging with Evo. Eugene gets the mic and explains why he joined with Evolution. He says that yes, HHH hated Eugene. He hated the retard, because HHH could recognize talent and could see he was being held back, so Trips had to show him some tough love. He was faking it the whole time and he was Nick Dinsmore. And just so he could answer any questions about Regal, he could show footage of Regal bloodied and beaten in the locker room, a pool of blood around his head. So on and so forth.

 

Nick could then feud with Orton or Benoit or Regal or a whole bunch of other people. With every pissed they got played for fools, Nick gets mad heat and he gets to really wrestle. Everyone's happy. Well, almost everyone's happy as someone would still find a way to not like it, but anyways there you go. Ok, I'm done playing fantasy booker. It may not be a great storyline, but meh, it's something.

[Shanghai Kid 0]

There's no reason the "I was faking it" thing wouldn't work. Hell, it wouldn't be that hard.

 

At the PPV, during the HHH/Orton match, Evolution comes out to help HHH. Ric distracts the ref, Batista goes in and hits a power move. HHH goes for the pin and Orton kicks out. Few moments of silence then Ric tries the distraction again. This time Eugene runs out with a chair and slides into the ring. It looks like he's gonna his HHH, but he swerves and pops Orton good. Eugene gets out of the ring and HHH gets the win. Then Evolution beats on Orton, the show ending with Evo standing over the bloodied Orton with JR screaming "WHY EUGENE WHY?!"

 

On Raw, we see Eugene has cut his hair and beard and is looking all heelish in a suit, hanging with Evo. Eugene gets the mic and explains why he joined with Evolution. He says that yes, HHH hated Eugene. He hated the retard, because HHH could recognize talent and could see he was being held back, so Trips had to show him some tough love. He was faking it the whole time and he was Nick Dinsmore. And just so he could answer any questions about Regal, he could show footage of Regal bloodied and beaten in the locker room, a pool of blood around his head. So on and so forth.

 

Nick could then feud with Orton or Benoit or Regal or a whole bunch of other people. With every pissed they got played for fools, Nick gets mad heat and he gets to really wrestle. Everyone's happy. Well, almost everyone's happy as someone would still find a way to not like it, but anyways there you go. Ok, I'm done playing fantasy booker. It may not be a great storyline, but meh, it's something.

It's so DUMB though.

 

He's still over enough as the retard to be a great face midcarder. The only decent face on the Raw midcard is Jericho, and their's plenty of room for Eugene to have a nice shelf life there. Let's be honest, as long as you don't overexpose him, he's fine. The live crowds outside of Toronto get a huge kick out of Eugene, and he's one of the most entertaining things on Raw. You guys act like the entire world has suddenly s*** on Eugene and that the guy isn't gettin cheers when he comes out. Even if that was the case, why the hell take a good thing and banish him from the WWE? Why turn him heel which would have an even bigger chance of the crowd shitting on the entire thing and than Eugene's career would totally be over because he could NEVER turn face again.

 

He may not be over like a main eventer, but as a midcarder, what the f*** is wrong with Eugene???

[UZI Suicide 0]

If they're getting rid of the character they could have him come out on RAW in like a month. . dressed in regular clothing, hair cut short, beard shaved. He says that all his life he dreamed of being a wrestler, but "Eugene" isn't really him, "Eugene" was just a stupid gimmick devised by the WWE. Dinsmore can say he thought it would only be temporary but then the WWE ran with it and made a mockery of everything he's worked for in his career. He can say he had fans laughing at him at every city he went to.. calling him a retard. He completely bashes Vince McMahon, Eric Bischoff, etc, but then also denounces the fans for turning their backs on him. He sort of "breaks kayfabe" a little by saying nothing we're seeing on TV is real and his gimmick was just one in a long line of stupid gimmicks we've seen on WWE TV. He says he's not really Bischoff's nephew and Bischoff can rot in hell for all he cares. Bischoff has him taken away by security and after that Nick Dinmsmore becomes a "loose cannon" type character terrorizing heels and faces on RAW.

 

crap.. this became like a fantasy booking post.. sorry.

[Guest ally mccoist]

Triple H fueded with the guy, and put him over on several occasions. The blow off of the fued needed to be done to get triple H over as a viable opponent for Orton. had he barely slipped by a "mentally disabled" wrestler in a cage match, he'd look weak.

Thats idiotic. So if HHH jobs to Eugene, a retard mind you, suddenly the fans don't view HHH as a viable opponent to Orton? Its HHH for fucks sake. He's been portrayed as the top guy in the company for ages. One job, no matter how retarded the opponent is, will not affect anything. You could've had Eugene beat HHH in every match they had, the fans wouldn't view HHH any differently.

[what 0]

If they're getting rid of the character they could have him come out on RAW in like a month. . dressed in regular clothing, hair cut short, beard shaved. He says that all his life he dreamed of being a wrestler, but "Eugene" isn't really him, "Eugene" was just a stupid gimmick devised by the WWE. Dinsmore can say he thought it would only be temporary but then the WWE ran with it and made a mockery of everything he's worked for in his career. He can say he had fans laughing at him at every city he went to.. calling him a retard. He completely bashes Vince McMahon, Eric Bischoff, etc, but then also denounces the fans for turning their backs on him. He sort of "breaks kayfabe" a little by saying nothing we're seeing on TV is real and his gimmick was just one in a long line of stupid gimmicks we've seen on WWE TV. He says he's not really Bischoff's nephew and Bischoff can rot in hell for all he cares. Bischoff has him taken away by security and after that Nick Dinmsmore becomes a "loose cannon" type character terrorizing heels and faces on RAW.

 

crap.. this became like a fantasy booking post.. sorry.

Vince Russo?

 

That would suck badly.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

Triple H fueded with the guy, and put him over on several occasions.  The blow off of the fued needed to be done to get triple H over as a viable opponent for Orton.  had he barely slipped by a "mentally disabled" wrestler in a cage match, he'd look weak.

Thats idiotic. So if HHH jobs to Eugene, a retard mind you, suddenly the fans don't view HHH as a viable opponent to Orton? Its HHH for fucks sake. He's been portrayed as the top guy in the company for ages. One job, no matter how retarded the opponent is, will not affect anything. You could've had Eugene beat HHH in every match they had, the fans wouldn't view HHH any differently.

Losing to Eugene for two weeks straight, and once in a cage, would greatly influence how people see him. It would be completely unrealistic after seeing how he's defeated so many tough wrestlers in the past.

[Styles 0]

Wade Keller in his Torch RAW report:

 

It might be time for Eugene's wise identical twin brother, Felix, to show up and get revenge. It's a little known fact, but Eugene was the fifth out of seven children. His mother, Bischoff's sister, named her children in alphabetical order, beginning with Andrea, then Brib, Corbin, and Dwayne, followed by Eugene and his twin brother, born six minutes after him, Felix. Felix is also a pro wrestler, wrestling mainly in Norway where he is the Northern Pride European Middleweight Champion.

[The Czech Republic 0]

Okay, enough with the Eugene hate. He's not going anywhere because he's still well-liked, by and large. He can still be entertaining, if confined to the midcard. All they have to do is just play up the savant element more this time around. He should not come back as a member of Evolution. He should not wear a mask. He should not cut his hair, shave, and say it was an act to get to the majors. He should not dress up as Repo Man. We're no longer in an age where a guy can be Tex The Wrangler, change his hairstyle, tights, music, and get a tan, and become Cal The Surfer. Nick Dinsmore is Eugene. End of story.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Do you ever wonder why we never see Bischoffs sister/Eugenes Mother react to Eric torturing her son?? It because she IS Eugene - having had a sex change back in 1995. The operation was not a complete success, you see, as the medication went to her head giving her a split personality - the dominant personality, Eugene, and the submissive personality, Sister Bischoff. This is how and why she bitches to her brother about letting Eugene on TV.

 

Think about it.

[DerangedHermit 0]

Do you ever wonder why we never see Bischoffs sister/Eugenes Mother react to Eric torturing her son?? It because she IS Eugene - having had a sex change back in 1995. The operation was not a complete success, you see, as the medication went to her head giving her a split personality - the dominant personality, Eugene, and the submissive personality, Sister Bischoff. This is how and why she bitches to her brother about letting Eugene on TV.

 

Think about it.

That is even more fucking Vince Russo.

[Guest Trivia247]

Every single week Bischoff pulls the "I'm so evil, that I want you to beat up Eugene so bad that he'll never come back." This has happened before, who's to say he won't be back in 2 weeks as...EUGENE!

Again my point which pisses me off, Other than Regal, Benoit, or The Rock... Where is the actual people who would be protecting the Eugene character from this stuff? What mother in their Right mind would allow their son so Badly injured just to discourage them? Its like Bischoff can do that and get away with it. No backlash? No reprocutions? Nothing comes back to haunt him?

 

HHH I don't care about, he was just a hired hitman, the instruament that Bischoff wield to try and basically maim his storyline nephew. Shouldn't there be some sort of action taken to him?

[Guest TheLastBoyscout]

None of the fantasy booking suggestions in this thread that don't involve sex changes are any good.

[CBright7831 0]

I'm getting sick of Bischoff.

 

Where the fuck is Vince McMahon?

 

If he fires Kurt Angle for firing Chimble, Funaki, and the Divas, then he should fire Bischoff for ass kissing Evolution.

[The Czech Republic 0]

Just once before they get rid of Eugene, William Regal has to chase Eugene and some Divas around in fast motion with the Benny Hill music playing.

[Guest PlatinumBoy]

The problem with Eugene not being retarded and helping Hunter out and joining Evo--if they do that, why would Eugene have interfered in the Iron Man match and helped Benoit, why not just help HHH then and have gotten the belt 2 months ago instead of waiting for Orton? In fact that could have made a more interesting Orton/HHH fued, as Orton would feel worthless since Hunter wanted a retard's help over Orton's, they could have slowly grown apart, etc. etc.

[geniusMoment 0]

The problem is Eugene gets pops from an increasingly dorky, older and now smaller fan base. How can WWE try to market themselves as cool with inspirational stories like the retard wrestler. They forgot what made them cool in the late 90s. Sid got big pops too, but he should have never had a place on the roster. It is better off to lose some attendance and ratings in the short run, build a product that is considered relevent again. Here is a hint, stupid ass pro america shit that gives you good press but makes you come off as lame like the voting shit does not inspire the 14-30 year old demo you want, they want a rebel promotion. Stupid gimmicks like inspirational retards turn off these fans, stupid shit like the diva search turn off these fans, they would prefer just T&A without the contest.

I actually think WWE would benefit from having someone in college on their creative team, not as a writer, but as someone to tell these dumbasses what their demographic wants. As they have no fucking clue how big of a joke wrestling fans have become again.

[Enigma 0]

They should get "Raven's Mom" to be "Bischoff's Sister".

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Maybe they could do a gimmick where Triple H winds up literally beating some sense into Eugene ? The beating was so brutal that it somehow knocked Eugene's brain back into alignment, and he's normal now. That way, Dinsmore could come back as Nick Dinsmore, having 'shed' the Eugene name and personality.

[The Czech Republic 0]

Maybe they could do a gimmick where Triple H winds up literally beating some sense into Eugene ? The beating was so brutal that it somehow knocked Eugene's brain back into alignment, and he's normal now. That way, Dinsmore could come back as Nick Dinsmore, having 'shed' the Eugene name and personality.

STOP SUGGESTING THIS, PEOPLE!!!!!

 

 

This is like the katillionth time I've read "maybe HHH hit him so hard he got smart." That's like the episode of Small Wonder where the girl gets hit in the head so she gets amnesia, so they hit her in the head again and she's normal again. It doesn't work that way!

 

However, Vicki the robot girl could cut a better promo than Orton.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Maybe they could do a gimmick where Triple H winds up literally beating some sense into Eugene ? The beating was so brutal that it somehow knocked Eugene's brain back into alignment, and he's normal now. That way, Dinsmore could come back as Nick Dinsmore, having 'shed' the Eugene name and personality.

 

That's like the episode of Small Wonder where the girl gets hit in the head so she gets amnesia, so they hit her in the head again and she's normal again. It doesn't work that way!

 

Maybe not in the 'real' world, but this WWE we're talking about, where we aren't meant to take things seriously. I think this is the sort of thing they'd go for, because in their mentality it makes sense.