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The WWE Raw Thread for 02-21-05

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If the WWE has Batista lose at Wrestlemania or even have the match end in DQ, they absolutely kill his character.

 

They are now on a one lane road that MUST end with Batista winning or his character is just over and done with. There would be no way to repair the damage if he does not win the belt.

I completely agree with this. They have a real chance to make Batista into a major star here. But, as stated, it all rests upon the outcome of the Wrestlemania match.

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Chris Masters is like Orton's twin brother doing a lame Rick "The Model" Martel gimmick. Just get him a spray bottle and he's good to go.

 

At first I thought it was a bulked up Rene Dupree to be honest.

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I haven't marked out like that in a LONG time. I want SO badly to hope for this to work, but I just have this feeling somehow, someway, WWE is going to fuck this up. BIG DAVE has to win the title now.

 

Maybe when he wins, Shopzone will stock a limited supply of the Official WWE BIG DAVE Pimp Suit? B-)

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Well, if Mania is traditionally when the heel drops the title, and HHH insists on always being the heel with the title, I'd say, yeah it will happen more often then that...

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Will HHH really drop the title in the main event two years in a row at Mania?

Of course he will. What better way to take a lot of internal heat off himself, as well as give himself political capital to ensure fewer jobs in the future.

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Guest The Shadow Behind You
I would assume they're going to end the show with this, rather than JBL/Cena, right?

The stipulation for the Royal Rumble WAS for the main event; they will honor that stipulation.

 

Esp. considering it has 3-4 months of slow burned build and Cena/JBL just started a week ago.

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Guest Trivia247

Next Monday we will probably get an explaination from Batista saying he always was set on nailing HHH since the Elimination chamber and that the SD crap never changed his mind

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I would assume they're going to end the show with this, rather than JBL/Cena, right?

The stipulation for the Royal Rumble WAS for the main event; they will honor that stipulation.

 

Esp. considering it has 3-4 months of slow burned build and Cena/JBL just started a week ago.

I also have a strong feeling we'll only see one title change, as to not take away the thunder of the other. So they can have Cena get a cheap loss in the middle of the show and let Batista shine at the end. Then save Cena's title win for a Smackdown show that needs it...

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Awesome finish to RAW tonight with the thumbs down.

 

I seriously burst out laughing during Chris Master's debut. The match SUCKED. THE ENTRANCE HE MADE was more entertaining than the match itself.

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Guest bigm350

While it would be better for Cena to beat JBL at WM, I wouldn't at all be surprised if JBL wins at WM, with Cena winning at maybe Judgment Day or whatever.

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Hmmmm . . . so next week, HHH recruits Mr. Masters and has him challenge Batista to a Full Nelson Showdown in the main event slot only to see HHH pedigree Batista 3 times while Flair hits the ropes and struts as we go off the air.

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While it would be better for Cena to beat JBL at WM, I wouldn't at all be surprised if JBL wins at WM, with Cena winning at maybe Judgment Day or whatever.

Batista is going over at WM, and so is JBL.

 

I wouldn't be shocked to see JBL hold the title until SummerSlam. I know that no one wants to hear that, but I've got a feeling about that.

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Eh, they've ridden the JBL train (or limo) for this long, they may as well let him go a full year as WWE Champion just for the hell of it. That seems to be the logic for most of the angles on Smackdown anyway . . . just for the hell of it.

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Guest bigm350
While it would be better for Cena to beat JBL at WM, I wouldn't at all be surprised if JBL wins at WM, with Cena winning at maybe Judgment Day or whatever.

Batista is going over at WM, and so is JBL.

 

I wouldn't be shocked to see JBL hold the title until SummerSlam. I know that no one wants to hear that, but I've got a feeling about that.

I also have the same feeling. If it ends up becoming true, then SD is going to plunge even further into the depths.

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I would assume they're going to end the show with this, rather than JBL/Cena, right?

Yeah the winner of the Royal Rumble is always in the final match of the night. No matter how many 'main events' there are

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LT or Bam Bam didn't win the Royal Rumble for XI

Sid or Undertaker didn't for XIII

Austin or Rock didn't for XV

Yeah, but WrestleMania XIII and XV were based on technicalities (Austin was DQ'd for cheating and Vince withdrew his shot).

 

The only reason Shawn didn't headline was because of the 'celebrity' factor that was Bam Bam/LT

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Hmmm...Summerslam is in DC (thus I will hopefully be going). My friend and I were assuming Batista will still be champ (come on, he's got to be, in his hometown) and who he'd be facing. Maybe Batista unifies the titles and stops JBL all in one night? ;)

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As awesome as this storyline has been, the HHH/Dave match at WM is probably going to suck now that I think about it.

No, stop thinking. The power of Dave compells you...

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Why book boring shit like HHH/Batista, when you've got guys like Masters unveiling left, right, and center?

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I think I'm the only one who might want JBL to job at WM more than HHH. Seriously they need to get the belt off this goof NOW. Cena is really the only guy left and he needs to take it. No more bullshit, no more lucky lame wins, this needs to be the time where Bradshaw's luck runs out.

 

And yes, Batista should win it too. Do something shocking like send fans home happy.

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As cool as the Batista turn was, it kinda makes me not look forward to watch him kill Triple H at Mania. I saw Triple H get his just desserts on free television and I saw Batista hold the belt up in the air like a champion (granted it was not his, but you get the point.) Seeing Triple H get beat up like that kinda killed things for me a little. I think Triple H has to get the better of Batista leading up to WrestleMania.

 

As for Cena, hey two babyfaces last year walked out with the title and had a great celebration. They can do that again this year.

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I think I'm the only one who might want JBL to job at WM more than HHH. Seriously they need to get the belt off this goof NOW. Cena is really the only guy left and he needs to take it. No more bullshit, no more lucky lame wins, this needs to be the time where Bradshaw's luck runs out.

 

And yes, Batista should win it too. Do something shocking like send fans home happy.

But think of it this way, Bradshaw will have already held the belt for about 10 months. What's another couple going to do in the grand scheme? Just make it sweeter when he finally loses.

 

It's been established that Batista NEEDS to win at Mania. More so then Cena. If Cena wins the belt in the middle of the card, he will be buried and forgtten by the time Batista is done celebrating to close the show.

 

If you have JBL pick up another cheap win, Cena can chase and an upcoming Smackdown PPV that will badly need a hook will have the rematch, and let Cena shine.

 

I actually remember reading a little while back in one of the newsletters was that the plan was for Cena to lose cheaply at Mania and then he wins the belt in a heavily hyped edition of Smackdown in May or June, since it would be seen by the most people and make Cena's win a big deal since WWE title changes on TV are rare.

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Chris Masters is like Orton's twin brother doing a lame Rick "The Model" Martel gimmick. Just get him a spray bottle and he's good to go.

 

At first I thought it was a bulked up Rene Dupree to be honest.

Only thing missing is a name for his goofy ass pose.

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RAW tonight had a really cool moment in that final closing segment. It wasn't a great show overall, but it had that really cool moment. That's something that's been missing from RAW lately. There have been some solid shows, but nothing that you'd remember for a long time. Tonight had that moment.

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