Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2005 INFECTION DETECTION Johnson Aziga is accused of killing two Toronto women. But authorities contend his alleged weapon of choice wasn't a gun or a knife, but a virus. The 48-year-old has become the first person in Canada ever charged with first degree murder as a result of spreading HIV. The Crown alleges Aziga sexually assaulted at least 13 women in a three year stretch from 2000 to 2003. Of those, seven developed the virus that causes AIDS, and two died. The first victim succumbed to the disease in December 2003, while the latter died last May. Authorities contend he knowingly spread the infection without telling his partners of the risk. Aziga had originally been charged with aggravated sexual assault in the cases, but the deaths upped the ante and the government decided it needed to send a message to others. Legal officials have asked Health Canada to help in their search for evidence, in an effort to prove the charges. The accused, who was born in Uganda but moved to Hamilton, was in a courtroom on Wednesday to face the upgraded accusations, but abruptly delayed proceedings by firing his lawyer. A judge has given him two weeks to find a new attorney. The case returns to court on March 11th. SOURCE When I first saw this, I thought that it was a little harsh for first degree murder, since he didn't intend to kill them, even though his actions did. I did not however, see that he sexually assaulted them, against their own will, thereby making it MUCH worse. He's a terrible person if it was consentual, if it was assault than he's a piece of shit. There are a lot of shades of grey with this case though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted February 25, 2005 Honestly, it is a fitting sentence. The man basically raped women to spread HIV. He deserves to suffer for doing that. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2005 I don't know....if you know you have aids and you get people to have consentual sex with you to give it to them and they die, that is kinda first degree murder. I mean, its premeditated, and your actions could lead to their death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted February 25, 2005 Honestly, it is a fitting sentence. The man basically raped women to spread HIV. He deserves to suffer for doing that. -=Mike Agreed 100%. Whoa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted February 25, 2005 Honestly, it is a fitting sentence. The man basically raped women to spread HIV. He deserves to suffer for doing that. -=Mike Agreed 100%. Whoa. Believe it or not, I don't hate gay people, ya know. -=Mike ...Well, except the Village People. And that's because their music sucks... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chirs3 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2005 I agree with you guys, this man is shit, but is there any way to prove he intended to give these women AIDS? Couldn't the defense claim he's a serial rapist who had no idea he was HIV positive? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted February 25, 2005 I agree with you guys, this man is shit, but is there any way to prove he intended to give these women AIDS? Couldn't the defense claim he's a serial rapist who had no idea he was HIV positive? Medical records, which I'm sure will be researched thoroughly, are really all the evidence needed. If the spread of AIDS is ever going to stop, it's going to take some harsh punishments levied on people like this who are basically armed and dangerous conspiracists, as far as I'm concerned. There's also the need for more education, but you'd be surprised, especially among gays, that there's an ever-growing segment of the community that has decided to live without fear and bareback, along with another growing segment of the community that sees AIDS as a "gift" because they get to die young, and they want to share that gift with as many people as they possibly can. I want to shoot them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2005 A related story on HIV. BOSTON - The New York man who sparked fears of a powerful new strain of HIV had drug-fueled, unprotected sex with more than 100 men in the months before his diagnosis, a top researcher said yesterday. nydailynews.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted February 25, 2005 Honestly, it is a fitting sentence. The man basically raped women to spread HIV. He deserves to suffer for doing that. -=Mike This may be one of the only times we end up agreeing. Give him a painful execution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted February 25, 2005 Honestly, it is a fitting sentence. The man basically raped women to spread HIV. He deserves to suffer for doing that. -=Mike This may be one of the only times we end up agreeing. Give him a painful execution. Look on the bright side. The fucker is going to get AIDS so he'll suffer a quite horrible death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2005 Well yea that's the sickest part. He knows he is going to suffer and die eventually, so he wants other people to suffer they way he has to. Thats just plain disgusting when you think about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbacon 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2005 Honestly, it is a fitting sentence. The man basically raped women to spread HIV. He deserves to suffer for doing that. -=Mike Agreed 100%. Whoa. Double whoa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted February 25, 2005 Honestly, it is a fitting sentence. The man basically raped women to spread HIV. He deserves to suffer for doing that. -=Mike Agreed 100%. Whoa. Double whoa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2005 (edited) Huh. Let's see if we can keep the streak up: Who here doesn't like to eat puppies? Edited February 25, 2005 by Justice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2005 I think this is a great idea. If he's knowingly spreading the disease to people against the will, he's doing every bit as much damage as someone who rapes somebody and then puts a bullet in their head. If they can think of a more painful death than AIDS, well he deserves it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2005 Too bad he'll get free medical care while in jail. Chop off his winky and let him live out on the street... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2005 Where's INXS to break this up with something like "he should just say he's sorry"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2005 You know, the government usually doesn't sentence people to "painful death", it's just death, generally. Also, the Village People weren't really gay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2005 Alas, Canada doesn't have capital punishment; but he should be put away for life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2005 Where's INXS to break this up with something like "he should just say he's sorry"? He would also somehow go off on a tangent about how America doesn't give enough funding to combat AIDS, even though this is a Canadian case, and Canada is a perfectly industrialized nation capable of treating the virus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ted the Poster 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2005 This is almost exactly like an episode of Law and Order. Creepy. Oh, and triple whoa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2005 Honestly, it is a fitting sentence. The man basically raped women to spread HIV. He deserves to suffer for doing that. -=Mike Fuckin a. A broken clock really is right twice a day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted February 26, 2005 I agree with you guys, this man is shit, but is there any way to prove he intended to give these women AIDS? Couldn't the defense claim he's a serial rapist who had no idea he was HIV positive? Good luck proving that he didn't know he was HIV positive. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted February 27, 2005 I agree with you guys, this man is shit, but is there any way to prove he intended to give these women AIDS? Couldn't the defense claim he's a serial rapist who had no idea he was HIV positive? Good luck proving that he didn't know he was HIV positive. -=Mike It doesn't even matter. In Canadian Law, if someone dies as a result of a one of a specific offenses (sexual assualt is one of them, as is robbery), then it is an automatic first degree murder charge. Three things have to be proven here in Canada. 1) He is guilty of sexual assault. 2) He was HIV positive. 3) They are now HIV positive as a result of the sexual assault. If all three are true, then he's guilty of first degree murder. At least when they die. I'm not sure what will happen before then. He'd probably be ruled a dangerous offender anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted February 28, 2005 Again, I don't see what would be so difficult about that. Pull his medical records and find the day he was first diagnosed with AIDS. If he came in for follow-up visits, he had to know. I'm curious if this case would be handled the same way in the US that it would be in Canada. Sounds like a HIPAA nightmare waiting to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted February 28, 2005 Also, the Village People weren't really gay. Two of the members were. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2005 Also, the Village People weren't really gay. Two of the members were. Yeah, but the whole group wasn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2005 Only two? Which ones?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
