Cool finishers

[Special K]

I was thinking, the WWE seems to have pretty strict standards on their finishers, for example ending the use of the really cool Rikishi Driver. What are some neat moves that could be finishers, that haven't been overexposed but are realtively safe?

 

-The F5 for example was a really cool, and to my knowledge, original move that looked pretty safe. Of course the ability to pull it off was enabled by Brock's freakish strength.

 

 

The Exploder is a really cool suplex that is rarely seen in the WWE, and is a fairly safe bump.

 

The Iconoclasm (inverted crucifix from second rope, pulled over into a back first slam) Looks grat and looks safe. Of course, I really doubt a lot of the bigger guys' ability to flip into the bump.

 

A missile dropkick is rarely used, and looks really looks great when a bigger wrestler (i.e. Booker) uses it.

 

The piggyback stunner looks great, but I could actually see a good risk of injury there, especially if the opponents differ in size. plus cutters/stunners are a little overused anyway.

 

They called Masters' finisher a 'swinging full-nelson' if someone actually swung the opponent in it for a revolution and delivered an uncle slam or a Nash sideslam-type move, it could look really good.

 

If you have a big dude, Norton's running shoulderbreaker was the shit, and looked devastating enough to floor a guy, even without previous shoulder work.

 

In terms of strikes, if you had someone agile and able, I love American Dragon's 2nd rope European Uppercut, if well executed it could be sold as a knockout blow.

 

 

 

As you can see, I'm stretching. Between all the hosses, and the safety restrictions on moves being employed by the WWE (not necessarily a bad thing BTW, when you see a pildriver now, you sorta say wow.) It's hard to think of original finishers that could get over nowadays.

However, I'm sure y'alls originality will prove mw wrong!

[Guest Ransome]

Ever seen Summerslam '94? Bull Nakano busts out a great move where she puts Alundra Blayze into a sharpshooter then turns and pulls up her shoulders, almost like a seated full nelson. Edge's Edge-cution is *similiar*, but not identical. Either way, I've always thought that would make a very credible finishing move for a male wrestler, although it would be hard for wrestler B to escape the move unless wrestler A voluntarily gives up.

 

A good place to check out the cool standing moves and ground submissions that WWE never seems to allow wrestlers to use would be in a wrestling game, eg No Mercy 64.

[King Cucaracha]

Benjamin, Regal and Haas all use safe Exploder variations. Show did use the F-5 for a couple of matches.

 

And I think Nakano's move is the Stunt Rider Stretch.

[Guest TheBigCalbowski]

And I think Nakano's move is the Stunt Rider Stretch.

In the Smackdown games in CAW mode, I think it was listed under Queen Angelito Stretch. Stunt Rider Stretch I think had your opponent standing up and you were piggybacking him and pulling his arms back.

[Guest MikeSC]

I still don't get why the Rikishi Driver was banned. If you really look at the spot, it's nearly impossible to actually injure a guy. With the guy resting on your shoulder, it'd take some doing to have his head hit the mat at all, much less with enough speed and weight behind it to break somebody's neck.

-=Mike

[Guest Trivia247]

I still don't get why the Rikishi Driver was banned. If you really look at the spot, it's nearly impossible to actually injure a guy. With the guy resting on your shoulder, it'd take some doing to have his head hit the mat at all, much less with enough speed and weight behind it to break somebody's neck.

-=Mike

thats because Rikishi has those lovely layers of belly that cushions the head that it never touched the match..

 

the True Fire Thunder on the other hand well that looks more dangerous. But also probably as safe as long as everyone knows what their doing

[EricMM]

The Angels wings just look better than the Pedigree does.

[Guest MikeSC]

The Angels wings just look better than the Pedigree does.

It also looks riskier. Which is why the WWE won't let it be.

the True Fire Thunder on the other hand well that looks more dangerous. But also probably as safe as long as everyone knows what their doing

I have only seen Rikishi and Bigelow do it (Bigelow's was spectacularly crappy), but it just seems that the way the body is on the shoulder should pretty well protect the head and neck.

-=Mike

...Did Rikishi ever hurt anybody with it?

[Guest INXS]

Probably the Styles Clash

[hhh6294]

I'd like to see Edge use his Downward Spiral again... that one was pretty cool lloking and pretty safe from a wrestler's standpoint.

[Guest BDC]

Sean O'Haire used a fireman's carry spinebuster, which I thought was actually a nice move to use.

 

Also, D-Lo Brown's Sky-Hi (Rydeen Bomb) was another move that I really enjoyed, but I think DLo just did it exceptionally well.

 

Honestly, I wish Chris Jericho had a good nonsubmission finish that didn't get buried or ignored. The Flashback would have been a good choice, but it was never used and when it was used, it wasn't really sold.

[Guest wildpegasus]

Probably the Styles Clash

People have had serious injuries from that move. Been scrwed up too many times.

[Hunter's Torn Quad]

I'd like to see someone bust out the Octagon Special, a side russian legsweep into a wacky submission hold. Austin used it on Bret at WM XIII if you want see what it looks like.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Kurt's "amateur bow & arrow" (called as such by Tazz) on this past Smackdown was a pretty bad-ass looking submission. Somebody should swipe it.

[Mystery Eskimo]

Probably the Styles Clash

People have had serious injuries from that move.

Like who?

[Ravenbomb]

Last Rights

Blue Thunder (?), I think Val Venis used to use it

[Guest BDC]

Probably the Styles Clash

People have had serious injuries from that move.

Like who?

Have you not seen the Styles Clash of Doom?

[Dace59]

Last Rights

 

Test used that and injured...Crash...I think with it the first time he used it.

[RavishingRickRudo]

[Mystery Eskimo]

Probably the Styles Clash

People have had serious injuries from that move.

Like who?

Have you not seen the Styles Clash of Doom?

Yes, but that was one time, and the guy (Kazarian, was it? Or David Young?) wasn't injured, just a little roughed up. It was also the guy taking its fault for tucking his head in for some reason.

 

Any actual examples?

[Hunter's Torn Quad]

One guy taking the SC on an Indy show, and this happened not long after the Kazarian deal, broke his neck.

[Mystery Eskimo]

Ouch. I'd guess there was another incident of tucking the head in, but it'd be interesting to see. I can't imagine Styles making the bump dangerous himself but maybe if his grip slipped or something, I dont know.

[Guest ShootingStylesPress]

Kazarian took the Styles Clash that way on purpose.

[DangerousDamon]

Isn't that armbar called Six Second Magic?

 

 

 

And I could see cruserweight doing that to a much larger opponent.

[Guest Brian]

Anyone else look at this thread and think submissions are underused as signature finishers? Even the ones that are used currenty don't have a great impact, as it seems more often than not people aren't submitted by them.

[Guest Fook_Theta]

Rey Rey pulling that out against Big Show/hoss after a long match would be credible. Ok, only credible by people that are used to submission wins.

 

There are honestly several hundred ultra-safe submission moves, and even more setups to them. Remember, the actual move needs a believable setup, that adds to the personalization if needed.

 

For an impact move, a properally sold DDT works for me. I'd love to see wrestlers branch out to high impact arm/leg moves. Anything where both people can control themselves to some degree and hopefully only come out with short term injuries at best.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh]

Watch Hassan wrestle if you want to see the "Downward Spiral"

 

Random: The "Edgeucution" is the elevated DDT, not the submission.

[Vyce]

Anyone else look at this thread and think submissions are underused as signature finishers? Even the ones that are used currenty don't have a great impact, as it seems more often than not people aren't submitted by them.

Exactly. Most of the submission finishers in the WWE are either no-sold or are countered FAR too easily. How many times has, oh, EVERYONE, escaped from the Anklelock?

 

Add to that the fact that psychology in the WWE is spotty at best, or workers just don't plain have time to work up to a submission when most times they get all of 4 minutes to actually work a match.

[Hunter's Torn Quad]

Anyone else look at this thread and think submissions are underused as signature finishers? Even the ones that are used currenty don't have a great impact, as it seems more often than not people aren't submitted by them.

Case in point is whenever Undi uses his triangle choke or armbars. Nobody pops because he almost never wins matches with them.

[Guest DeathBecomesYou]

I'd love to see someone bust out some T2P style submissions in WWE. A good one I saw, done by Milano Collection AT, was a STF with a Full Nelson, looked very cool.