Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 You are confusing understanding for defending. Once again, and I'll make it clear as day so there is doubt, I do not defend what happened between Edge and Lita, but I can understand why it happened. If anyone else around here has been in that situation they can understand why it happened. They'll not defend it, but they'll understand it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cosbywasmurdered Report post Posted March 6, 2005 Meh, why are people almost having heart attacks over this? Big freakin' deal, a wrestler cheats on his wife with someone he works with, it's not like shit like that has NEVER happened before in the scummy world of pro wrestling, so why bother getting all upset and yelling for a depush? Hell, if anything, I'd bet Vince doesn't particularly care either since he's probably done the exact same thing. Of course, there's the whole "Matt putting his personal business out on the net for everyone to see/talk about", so whatever... ^^^^ Dead on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted March 6, 2005 You can look but don't touch. When did society forget the definition of marriage? Current Events and WWE come together at last! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted March 6, 2005 You are confusing understanding for defending. Once again, and I'll make it clear as day so there is doubt, I do not defend what happened between Edge and Lita, but I can understand why it happened. If anyone else around here has been in that situation they can understand why it happened. They'll not defend it, but they'll understand it. ok then. I thought you were condoning the rest of the guys that did it who were far away while saying Lita was wrong because Matt was right there. I don't care about the actual parties involved, infidelity on all levels is just wrong and idiotic to me. What's so hard about not getting into a long-term relationship if you don't feel you can be faithful? Why intentionally fuck over somebody who obviously cares for you like that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted March 6, 2005 You can look but don't touch. When did society forget the definition of marriage? Current Events and WWE come together at last! I don't expect a straight up pimp like yourself to understand being faithful. I know you're a playa' that just crushes alot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 You are confusing understanding for defending. Once again, and I'll make it clear as day so there is doubt, I do not defend what happened between Edge and Lita, but I can understand why it happened. If anyone else around here has been in that situation they can understand why it happened. They'll not defend it, but they'll understand it. What's so hard about not getting into a long-term relationship if you don't feel you can be faithful? Why intentionally fuck over somebody who obviously cares for you like that? Unfortunately, a lot of people can overestimate their ability to handle the road, and even those that can handle it can see it wear them down over the years. Infidelity is wrong, and I would never deny that. It's just a sad fact that the wrestling lifestyle can make it extremely hard, if not virtually impossible, to remain faithful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted March 6, 2005 I guess the craziest gimmik out there for a wrestler then is the one of "Devoted Husband". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 We're all losing sight of the fact that Edge could do better than Lita. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted March 6, 2005 no he can't. He looks like Mr. Horse from Ren and Stimpy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 We need to find out what Edge & Christian's GRANDMA EDNA thinks about all this. POST OF THE THREAD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ransome Report post Posted March 6, 2005 About the only thing that would get a wrestler punished in WWE is doing something that harms either their business or their reputation, and since this hasn't done either yet, nothing will happen. For example, when JBL broke German law by goose-stepping while on tour there, and was punished by being awarded the world title for 10 months...... Seriously, Matt Hardy is coming off as such a whiny bitch during all this. I don't know the full circumstances, but he needs to take it like a man. Either that, or exact childish revenge. Possibly by releasing a Lita sextape ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 ^ I vote for "childish revenge". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted March 6, 2005 "You think you know me?" How appropriate, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jester 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 If this Edge/Lita shit is true, I just like how Edge was punished by jobbing to HBK. It's a little like getting caught with roids so they job you to Steiner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 How so? I haven't really heard any stories about Shawn Michaels cheating on his wife. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 We're all losing sight of the fact that Edge could do better than Lita. I haven't. Damn, if he wanted some so bad, you could have gave me a call... And if Edge does get depushed, he'll just get pushed again. It's not like Hardy is some big time player who has a lot of backstage clout and will make Edge be in dark matches. Seriously, if there is any punishment, it'll be on the same level as Hardcore Holly punishment. Wonder if since this came out, maybe some past cheatings will? Come one, like Lita was faithful for the full 4 years... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 If this Edge/Lita shit is true, I just like how Edge was punished by jobbing to HBK. It's a little like getting caught with roids so they job you to Steiner. Benoit might have been a more appropriately ironic choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 Not sure if this has been posted, but here is a more indepth look at the happenings "http://newxtremeboard.proboards35.com/index.cgi?board=hardyslita "Let's first start off by saying that Matt Hardy has given me permission to post this thread concerning the situation between himself and Amy (Lita). For those who do not know me and even for those who do, I do not make alot of posts, nor do I like rumors and gossip. I have been very upset by the threads and posts I have read here about the situation at hand. I will tell you what Matt has told me. I will not go into every detail, but you will understand what has happened. First and Formost, I have nothing personally against Amy, she has always been nice and respectful to me. As we all know Amy broke her neck and was out for 16 months. During this time Matt being on the road had nothing on his mind but getting home to take care of Amy. Matt has a very large fan base, and I have been to several shows, I have heard what fans says about The Hardys and other Wrestlers and what they would like to do to, or with them, but Matt caring only for Amy was very supportive while Amy was at home re-habing and getting ready to come back to the WWE. Matt never compromised Amy's integrity, but as he stated to me, all he wanted to do was get home to his girl. The Kane, Matt , Lita and baby saga ended with Matt having to have knee surgery. Matt had his surgery at the end of August 2004. Amy was back with the WWE and things seemed to be going fine. September 2004 Adam Copeland (EDGE) was getting married for the second time. Matt, Amy, Jeff and Beth all attended the wedding. Jeff Hardy told me he remembered sitting at the wedding and seeing Matt and Amy in front of him and he looks back now and can't believe that this has happened to them, as Jeff told me "I thought they would always be together". If you remember December 5th was the night Amy won the Womens Championship from Trish in Charlotte, ( Matts dad and myself attended that show) I remember the bump Amy took when she jumped out of the ring onto trish and I though she had re-injured her neck again. On our way home, I called Matt to see if Amy was ok, and he told me that she was real sore and would be ok, I even talked to him the next day to check on her status. Then in January 2005 a rematch for the title, Amy and Trish wrestled again and this is when Amy hurt her knee. Amy was on her way to Birmingham Alabama to have her knee surgery and Matt was driving to meet with her, concerned and had nothing but Amy on his mind, because she was having the same surgery he had just undergone himself. While in transit to see Amy, Matt received a phone call from Edge's wife wanting to know why Edge and Amy were calling each other several times a day? Matt did not have an answer for that, so he thought something just didn't seem right, so he asked Amy about the calls and asked her if there was anything going on between them, and she told him "NO". WWE wrestlers sometimes ride together, Matt told me that Edge asked if he could ride with Amy and she told him yes, understand this, that before all this happened, Matt, Amy and Edge were great friends. Edge began having feelings for Amy and started making advances, and soon Amy gave into the advances. Matt also questioned Edge on the situation betweem him and Amy, and Edge told Matt that there was nothing going on between them. Matt still wasn't sure and had a feeling something was not right, although everything was still great and normal at home. Matt told me that he thought a "higher power" had something to do with the two accidents, the one in Charlotte was a warning for Amy to get her head clear. Matt even thinks the reason she hurt her knee in Puerto Rico, was to send her home, to let her get her mind back on their relationship. Matt stated "Carma has a weird way of working" Around Mid Febuary Matt told me that this is when all hell broke loose over this situation, Matt told me that he had intercepted messages on a phone Amy had been hiding from him, where Edge and Amy had been talking, and it wasn't about wrestling. Matt told me he asked Amy about this again and she told him that there was in fact something going on, but she told Matt that even though she loved him(Matt) she could not stop thinking about Edge. Matt could not take the lies anymore and asked Amy to leave. So Matt and Amy are in fact not together any longer due to lies, mistrust and from Amy and Edge having a relationship behind Matt's back. Matt did asked Amy to stop it, but she did not, As far as hearing both sides of the story, Matt doesn't think you are gonna hear from Amy because she doesn't have anything to say. Matt and Amy had a 6 year relationship together, she talks of Matt in her book, you could see in Matt's eyes he loves her, Matt has been hurt and betrayed by who he thought was his soul mate, and one of his best friends. Yea we tend to get a little out of line when backed into a corner, say some things that hurt, but guess what, Matt Hardy, WWE superstar is still a human being with feelings and emotions. When your heart is taken out of your chest and thrown in the dirt and then stomped on, you tend to have a bad taste in your mouth about things, but you can be assured of one thing, there is only one version.... and that is Matt Hardy" Posted by Jimbo moderator credit: xtremeboard" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tjhe CyNick Report post Posted March 6, 2005 These things happen in every workplace in every country around the world. The thing I dont like is the talk of Edge being "punished" for his. I mean who are the WWE Brass to dictate to people who they can and cannot have relations with? Did Stephanie get punished for causing Chyna and HHH to break up? And if she didn't, should she now get punished, just to be fair. The one thing I would do is keep Matt and Edge on opposite shows. There's really no need to have the tw of them near each other, and they could easily move either guy to SD, especially Matt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 ^ yeah but nobody really liked chyna enough to get too pissed off over it. It seems like a lot of people are upset because of the friendships between the group. Why do people keep bringing up hhh/chyna/stephanie? This isn't government policy, there's no obligation to be "consistent" or "fair", nobody in their right mind is gonna punish Vince's daughter. it's his daughter. part of his "punishment" is no doubt due to business ramifcations of this whole thing. they're gonna have to do roster and storyline shuffling on RAW cuz Edge decided to bang his friend's girl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 Matt told me that he thought a "higher power" had something to do with the two accidents "It was ME Hardy, it was me all along!" EDIT: In all seriousness, I don't see Edge being 'punished'. Maybe they'll make an example out of him in the back, to try and discourage other wrestlers from doing what he did. I'm sure they'll then consider sending Edge to the 'B' show in the draft, assuming that will be punishment enough. Other than that, a fine? I'm no legal beagle, but I'm sure they can't fire them for sleeping with each other, so I doubt Edge'll be making plans to become NWA Champ just yet and I doubt they'll fire Lita. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoff 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 Maybe this is all smoke being blown to cover the real culprit....RIKISHI. "I did her for The Rock. I did her for the People." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 These things happen in every workplace in every country around the world. And when they do, people get fired for it. In many offices and workplaces around the world, relationships between company employees are simply not allowed. Because they can lead to a messed-up situation like this. The thing I dont like is the talk of Edge being "punished" for his. I mean who are the WWE Brass to dictate to people who they can and cannot have relations with? Considering Edge has just put the company in a difficult position regarding the roster division between Matt, Lita, and Edge -- not to mention violated an aspect of trust in the locker room -- he definitely needs to face some kind of punishment. I would say a depushing is in order. Did Stephanie get punished for causing Chyna and HHH to break up? And if she didn't, should she now get punished, just to be fair. What is with the unbelievably awful comparisons in this thread? And I think this has been gone over already anyway. The one thing I would do is keep Matt and Edge on opposite shows. There's really no need to have the tw of them near each other, and they could easily move either guy to SD, especially Matt. Well, now Matt and Lita can't be on the same show either. And the relationship between Edge and Lita should also be discouraged. So how exactly does WWE solve this situation now? The matter isn't as simple as "Put Matt and Edge on different shows". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoff 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 (edited) What is with the unbelievably awful comparisons in this thread? I have to agree. If this is like any wrestling split, it's got to be most like the unfortunate split between Shawn Michaels and Marty Janetty. Poor Edge took Matt's heart and threw it through a barbershop window. Edited March 6, 2005 by Hoff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 Considering Edge has just put the company in a difficult position regarding the roster division between Matt, Lita, and Edge -- not to mention violated an aspect of trust in the locker room -- he definitely needs to face some kind of punishment. I would say a depushing is in order. Edge should only be depushed if he's not getting over in his current role. Not because he had a thing for Lita. If it's true- Edge is a major asshole for doing it but I think making him lose fake fights is a stupid way of punishing him- especially since most viewers have no idea that Edge fucked her. Well, now Matt and Lita can't be on the same show either. And the relationship between Edge and Lita should also be discouraged. Why should WWE get involved in Edge and Lita's business? They're two adults involved in something that's consensual. It's totally scummy on both Edge and Lita's part but the company should not be playing babysitter. There's no reason they shouldn't be on the same show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted March 6, 2005 Man, Lita is really getting off free here in this thread. Unless I missed Metz confirm this, its still pure speculation that it is in fact Edge. The Torch make shit up a lot, and this Edge thing was posted AFTER Hardys webiste said it was a close friend who fucked him over. I wouldnt put it past the Torch to pick a close freind of Matts and see if it works. I think Lita should be getting WAY more heat for this than she is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 Man, Lita is really getting off free here in this thread. Unless I missed Metz confirm this, its still pure speculation that it is in fact Edge. The Torch make shit up a lot, and this Edge thing was posted AFTER Hardys webiste said it was a close friend who fucked him over. I wouldnt put it past the Torch to pick a close freind of Matts and see if it works. I think Lita should be getting WAY more heat for this than she is. Well, Matt's "Friend" posted that it was Edge on his message board, and the guy does sound like he has knowledge on this whole situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoff 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 Actually, that was me making that post. ..... The point is, do we have any proof it wasn't? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted March 6, 2005 I dunno, it seems like a work or a fake. I just think something here sound off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LessonInMachismo 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2005 Considering Edge has just put the company in a difficult position regarding the roster division between Matt, Lita, and Edge -- not to mention violated an aspect of trust in the locker room -- he definitely needs to face some kind of punishment. I would say a depushing is in order. Edge should only be depushed if he's not getting over in his current role. Not because he had a thing for Lita. If it's true- Edge is a major asshole for doing it but I think making him lose fake fights is a stupid way of punishing him- especially since most viewers have no idea that Edge fucked her. Well, now Matt and Lita can't be on the same show either. And the relationship between Edge and Lita should also be discouraged. Why should WWE get involved in Edge and Lita's business? They're two adults involved in something that's consensual. It's totally scummy on both Edge and Lita's part but the company should not be playing babysitter. There's no reason they shouldn't be on the same show. WWE is a business. We live in an economically libertarian society (capitalism) and companies can make their own policies. I work for a multi-billion dollar company and we do allow relationships, even boss-underling relationships (as long as it isn't marriage), but the company is a "good ole boy" company. Other smaller corporations I've worked for do not allow relationships under any circumstances. Between underlings, between bosses and underlings, between bosses. There are numerous reasons for such a policy, and logical thinking will bring them to you. When you work for a company, you are more or less under contract (in WWE literally) and you must play by their rules. This isn't like the government saying Edge and Lita can't be together because Edge is married or whatever. This is their employer who has business concerns to think about. Stephanie/HHH? Welcome to the real world. Life isn't fair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites