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I can't believe you are busting on Magic for getting the HIV.  That's pretty fucking shallow, and a long way away from Shaq's weight problems or Kobe being accused of rape.

 

What I can't understand is how you even made this ridiculous connection in the first place when I never did.

 

Magic...contracting...AIDS...was...because...he...cheated...on...his..wife...wit

h...some...dirty...hos. Because of this, he was forced to leave the Lakers abruptly. His absence left a huge void that did not get filled until Shaq and Kobe came along and started taking the Lakers to the NBA Finals once again.

 

How is this not getting through though?

 

I'm not the Morality Police and after re-reading my posts, I'm not even sure how the connection could even be made when I said *several* times how I could not care any less about what a player does off the field or court as long as it does not hinder their game or the team from playing well.

 

Yeah he cheated on his wife, so? Last I checked adultry isn't illegal.

 

...I never said it should be nor am I condeming those that do cheat on their spouses.

 

Also, if I remember correctly, Shaq's weight problems stemmed from a nagging toe injury (made worse by being overweight).

 

The toe injury became a nagging injury once Shaq's weight ballooned up. It wasn't a recurring injury before then.

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Magic...contracting...AIDS...was...because...he...cheated...on...his..wife...wit

h...some...dirty...hos. Because of this, he was forced to leave the Lakers abruptly. His absence left a huge void that did not get filled until Shaq and Kobe came along and started taking the Lakers to the NBA Finals once again.

 

 

A. Magic contracted AIDS because he cheated.

B. Because of that he left the Lakers.

C. Void ensued.

 

 

It's simple cause and effect. Stop typing like an ass and read your own posts instead of attempting to act all high and mighty. YOU said that he contract AIDS. YOU brought that up. YOU said his departure, which happened BECAUSE of the AIDS was the reason the Lakers went downhill. The difference between that and Kobe being accused of RAPE are ridiculous.

 

 

As far as Shaq... Do ya think maybe his weight ballooned because he couldn't work out due to a toe injury? Then of course the toe injury worsened to become a nagging one?

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A.  Magic contracted AIDS because he cheated.

B.  Because of that he left the Lakers.

C.  Void ensued.

 

 

It's simple cause and effect.  Stop typing like an ass and read your own posts instead of attempting to act all high and mighty.  YOU said that he contract AIDS. YOU brought that up. YOU said his departure, which happened BECAUSE of the AIDS was the reason the Lakers went downhill.  The difference between that and Kobe being accused of RAPE are ridiculous. 

Yes, yes, YES!!! goddamnit, YES!

 

Finally, FINALLY, someone understands! Finally, oh praise be to Jebus, yes, someone understands. Thank you.

 

It was simple cause and effect.

 

His actions did not just have an impact on his career and life. The fallout also had a negative effect on his team, which goes back to what I have been saying for the last several posts now.

 

If a player's "questionable" actions, whatever they might be, don't end up hindering a team from playing to it's full potential then I don't have a problem with the player or what he does.

 

Magic and Kobe's problems aren't even in the same stratosphere. Kobe, unlike Magic, was *luckily* able to get past his off-court problems and can continue to play ball. Magic, on the otherhand, was unfortunately unable to.

 

I think Magic is a pretty stand up guy for all the community service help he has offered to city's over the years but he fucked up and it hurt him and his team. Had he been like retired, when he wasn't playing with the team, then I would have not held any grudge against him. But he was still playing with the team at the time he contracted HIV and his abrupt exit ended up hurting his team and his fans who still wanted to see him play for like another 10 years.

 

Like me.

 

I nearly broke into tears when I heard the news and feared that he was going to die in a year. I didn't have a damn clue about HIV or AIDS when I was 13 years old. Aside from my parents, he was the only other person I have ever considered a "hero" to me and all I wanted was for him to get better.

 

It's a damn shame what happened to Magic Johnson.

 

As far as Shaq...  Do ya think maybe his weight ballooned because he couldn't work out due to a toe injury?  Then of course the toe injury worsened to become a nagging one?

 

Have you ever heard of water therapy?

 

It can work *wonders* for people who have hindered mobility. This was also the workout that Gary Vidi suggested to Shaq, when he started having problems with his feet and weight, and all he did was scoff at the notion.

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We're on the same side CP.

 

No really, we are. Effects in this sense is also the right word too.

 

But yeah, Kobe's numbers have not dropped off since last season and none of the guys on the team have called for a mutiny to get Kobe kicked off the team. He's playing to his full potential and hasn't missed a beat since he was first charged with rape.

 

He still sounds like a lil primadonna though. I mean, cripes, the brotha cried when Philly booed him at the All-Star game a couple seasons ago. Goddamn, that was pathetic to see. IT'S FUCKIN PHILLY!!! They hate everyone, themselves included. Yeesh, Kobe should have sacked up.

 

His shit with Karl sounded like a gargantuan miscommunication problem though and I still believe that. It looked to me, based on everything I read, like Vanessa couldn't take a joke because Karl's line about hunting "lil Mexican girls" just came off as too absurd to be serious or a serious pick up line. I mean, he's got kids that are nearly her age and I'm sure he understands how volatile their reactions can be during the young adult years.

 

The shit with Shaq and him was just egos clashing for supremacy and both guys look like they're super insecure about themselves. Yeah, they're *reeeeaaaallllly* going to hang out with each other after games if they're sniping one another in the fuckin *locker room* where team unity is stressed. Yeah right. Like they want to let the other rib them in public where the press can dog them in the sheets about it.

 

Honestly, I'm still amazed that Kobe didn't just take games off when he had court on those days. Instead he flew from court to the arenas and only missed a handful of games. I thought for sure his numbers were going to take a dive off a cliff but they didn't (praise be to Jebus they haven't yet).

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So whats up with T Mac? Im looking at some updated box scores and hes only played 3 mins. Is anyone getting this game on tv? Is he hurt?

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bomb threat? I heard somebody threatened to bring a packet of deadly plastic cups and chuck them down.

 

Those cups put the fear of god into all players.

 

man i cant wait for the first indy/detroit Palace game with Ron Artest next season :headbang: that sucker better be televised.

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Apparently just last week Stern was asked about Artest, and he said he had entertained the idea of considering reinstatement, but has decided to stick with his decision. Artest is not coming back.

 

In other news, a guy at work today informed me and my uncle that the Eastern finals would be Indiana vs Miami. I informed him that he was on crack.

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the only team IMO who I could see upsetting one of the big two (detroit more likely cuz of the bracketig and their inconsistency) in the East to get to the Conf. Finals is Boston, the way they've been playing.

i actually just moved to boston from detroit area, i am kinda hoping they play so i can be the only person in the whole city rooting for the pistons ;)

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