Ripper Posted April 22, 2005 Report Posted April 22, 2005 Well, I still haven't seen it in a legitamate news source so I am going to lean towards no. But by no means, let that stop the thread from continuing with the racist jokes. They are teh kewl.
kkktookmybabyaway Posted April 22, 2005 Report Posted April 22, 2005 OK, so what do you get when you put a Jew, a black and a Hispanic in a room? A room that I won't enter -- lol2005...
bobobrazil1984 Posted April 22, 2005 Report Posted April 22, 2005 so they were scremaing "Martin Luther King" while ATTACKING people?
Your Paragon of Virtue Posted April 22, 2005 Report Posted April 22, 2005 Interestingly enough, if this was the opposite case, with white kids beating up on black kids, Mike probably would have investigated the shit out of this claim and proven it false as some black propaganda, even if it were real dismissing it as an isolated case. Mike is biased, shocking I know. Czech is obssessed with fitting in with the conservatives on this board, complete with bad jokes and all, since he doesn't know any in real life.
Your Paragon of Virtue Posted April 22, 2005 Report Posted April 22, 2005 To add, if this is real, I hear about shit like this all the time, although it's never race motivated. But just because it is not race motivated doesn't mean that it shouldn't be stopped or get any attention, which it doesn't as I never see it on the news or read stories in the paper/on the net.
lomasmoney Posted April 22, 2005 Report Posted April 22, 2005 so they were scremaing "Martin Luther King" while ATTACKING people? they were probably on Martin Luther King Avenue too. Because in any major city, the road named after MLK is always the rawest of the raw. Amazing since he was such a innovator of violent tactics like sitting down and getting his ass kicked.
2GOLD Posted April 22, 2005 Report Posted April 22, 2005 They shoulda yelled "Don King" then. It does seem like it was a setup... No, if it had been Don King then the 30 boys would have taken a dive in the first minute and Don would have popped up from a manhole yelling "ONLY IN AMERICA" and immediately set the girls up with a World title fight in August 2006.
Ted the Poster Posted April 22, 2005 Report Posted April 22, 2005 Ving Rhames was awesome in that movie.
Ripper Posted April 22, 2005 Report Posted April 22, 2005 Ving Rhames was awesome in that movie. Truest statement in thread
Vyce Posted April 23, 2005 Report Posted April 23, 2005 Well, I still haven't seen it in a legitamate news source so I am going to lean towards no. What a shocking development.
The Czech Republic Posted April 23, 2005 Report Posted April 23, 2005 Czech is obssessed with fitting in with the conservatives on this board, complete with bad jokes and all, since he doesn't know any in real life. First of all, don't you talk about being obsessed with fitting in with certain groups, you cocksucker, lest I direct anyone to your Inc-Agent fellatio-fests. Also, I'm not trying to fit in with Mike, in case you haven't noticed, we've disagreed on several things as of late. And who are you to know who I know in real life? Shut the fuck up and go back to being contentious just to amuse yourself, you shithead.
Your Paragon of Virtue Posted April 23, 2005 Report Posted April 23, 2005 Czech is obssessed with fitting in with the conservatives on this board, complete with bad jokes and all, since he doesn't know any in real life. First of all, don't you talk about being obsessed with fitting in with certain groups, you cocksucker, lest I direct anyone to your Inc-Agent fellatio-fests. Also, I'm not trying to fit in with Mike, in case you haven't noticed, we've disagreed on several things as of late. And who are you to know who I know in real life? Shut the fuck up and go back to being contentious just to amuse yourself, you shithead.
Your Paragon of Virtue Posted April 23, 2005 Report Posted April 23, 2005 "You take things too seriously" - Me to you, in some other thread. Seriously though, I would like to think that you mean very little of that, it would be a shame to invest so much into something that a stranger passively says about you. Just to say, I don't really interact with Agent or Inc on the board, let alone suck the internet cock. The only people I really interact with on a regular basis are the MMA junkies, and IDRM if he starts talking about religion or something else that he seemingly knows a lot about.
Your Paragon of Virtue Posted April 23, 2005 Report Posted April 23, 2005 I mean, how about those black teens?
2GOLD Posted April 23, 2005 Report Posted April 23, 2005 Czech is obssessed with fitting in with the conservatives on this board, complete with bad jokes and all, since he doesn't know any in real life. First of all, don't you talk about being obsessed with fitting in with certain groups, you cocksucker, lest I direct anyone to your Inc-Agent fellatio-fests. Also, I'm not trying to fit in with Mike, in case you haven't noticed, we've disagreed on several things as of late. And who are you to know who I know in real life? Shut the fuck up and go back to being contentious just to amuse yourself, you shithead. When did Ozzie Guillen get access to your account? You should check that out, you never know what he'll say.
The Czech Republic Posted April 23, 2005 Report Posted April 23, 2005 Jose Macias OWNZ~! joo. Hot hitters bat sixth. Big boys don't play small ball.
The Czech Republic Posted April 23, 2005 Report Posted April 23, 2005 Shit, my account information is getting all over Chicago
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Posted April 24, 2005 Report Posted April 24, 2005 How was the original article found?
Guest MikeSC Posted April 24, 2005 Report Posted April 24, 2005 Interestingly enough, if this was the opposite case, with white kids beating up on black kids, Mike probably would have investigated the shit out of this claim and proven it false as some black propaganda, even if it were real dismissing it as an isolated case. Mike is biased, shocking I know. Czech is obssessed with fitting in with the conservatives on this board, complete with bad jokes and all, since he doesn't know any in real life. I would have ignored it --- as it happens A LOT. Black-on-white crime, in spite of the total lack of "hate crime" prosecutions, is not exactly a RARE occurence. -=Mike
Edwin MacPhisto Posted April 24, 2005 Report Posted April 24, 2005 How was the original article found? That's my question too. I searched Fox News, CNN, and even Drudge's archives, and didn't find a single mention of this. The only report of it, at all, is in a small weekly newsletter-type paper for that local Marine Park area. You check out that website? It's incredibly small-time. If it happened, yes, it's an obvious illustration of the problems that make hate crime laws touchy, so I guess it functions well in the abstract. But the tiniest amount of research indicates that no substantial news outlet of any degree has picked up this story. An non-existent, exaggerated straw man? Looks like.
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Posted April 24, 2005 Report Posted April 24, 2005 Like others have said before, I've only been able to find this story as a link on message boards and websites that are clearly racist.
Dobbs 3K Posted April 24, 2005 Report Posted April 24, 2005 If the story is true, how come no one in the area did anything about it? You see a bunch of kids going nuts beating some girls, and you don't do anything, even call the police? What a bunch of crap. It's situations like this where I think vigilante justice is warranted. I mean, what do you do to a dog that attacks someone?
EricMM Posted April 24, 2005 Report Posted April 24, 2005 I disbelieve this story because this would get way more story time than that hazing incident that happened a while back and I've heard NOTHING. No wonder the cops didn't do anything, it never happened.
Jobber of the Week Posted April 24, 2005 Report Posted April 24, 2005 Regardless of whether this happened or not, it does show the hypocracy by those who ramble about how there's no hate crime. If someone shouted "Allah Ackbar!" before blowing up a restaurant, there would be a whole additional set of laws, punishments, investigational tools, etc that open up thanks to anti-terrorism law. However, if what was shouted was (race here) Power!, then it's just treated like a regular crime.
Kahran Ramsus Posted April 24, 2005 Report Posted April 24, 2005 Because the former is generally an attack by foreigners on the country, where the latter is American-on-American generic crime. I'm not saying I agree with it, but that seems to be the argument. Actually, I do think hate crime should be legislated (regardless of race), because generally speaking if somebody commits a hate crime, they are at very high risk to do it again. There is more of a motive there.
Jingus Posted April 24, 2005 Report Posted April 24, 2005 1. So do we have any confirmation on whether this actually happened or not? It is possible that the story could've been accidentally ignored (which does happen sometimes) or that it could've been selectively covered up by The Evil Biased Liberal Media (which does also happen sometimes) but it seems like a story like this would indeed be big news. To add, if this is real, I hear about shit like this all the time, although it's never race motivated. 2. If the incident did indeed take place as it was described, then of course it was racially motivated. They were shouting MLK and black power and calling the girls crackers. How you could possibly say that's not racially motivated? The St. Edmund girls were bleeding and beaten to the point where they had cuts, scrapes, footprints and dirt all over them - and the attackers surrounded her car and started pounding on the windows as Debbie tried to herd the terrified children into her vehicle. Two girls were hospitalized - one with a broken nose and one with a head injury, according to Edith, the mother of another girl. 3. This is the main detail that makes me question the story's veracity. So, an enraged mob of 30 people viciously beat on these girls for several minutes, including apparently dragging one all the way down the street by their hair... and the ONLY real injuries they suffered were one broken nose and one concussion? Come on. I've seen worse injuries occur in worked wrestling matches that lasted under a minute. If 30 people beat the living shit out of you, you're gonna show more physical damage than that. Even if the attack did happen, then this paper is clearly exaggerating the severity of it.
Your Paragon of Virtue Posted April 24, 2005 Report Posted April 24, 2005 To add, if this is real, I hear about shit like this all the time, although it's never race motivated. 2. If the incident did indeed take place as it was described, then of course it was racially motivated. They were shouting MLK and black power and calling the girls crackers. How you could possibly say that's not racially motivated? You missed my point, I meant that I hear shit about this happening all the time, as in the gang violence and people being outnumbered and getting beat up. Of course, *those cases* are not racially motivated, and even though sometimes worse than what happened in this piece of racist propaganda, since it is not race-motivated it gets no play on the media and such.
Guest Brian Posted April 24, 2005 Report Posted April 24, 2005 It sounds more like a mugging given the little damage actually done.
EricMM Posted April 24, 2005 Report Posted April 24, 2005 I think what would make it news is that they were kids and female, and it was black kids supposedly whaling on white girls. If that happened, it would be news. If a bunch of black kids beat the shit out of another black kid, that's never news.
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