CBright7831 Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 Goddamn that was awesome!!! I think it was a little bit of shoot and little bit of script combined. Discuss the events that just happened.
Twisted Intestine Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 Oh. Thanks for the spoiler? Or what are you talking about?
snuffbox Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 Was that a shoot or was it real? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> neither
snuffbox Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 Was that a shoot or was it real? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> neither
razazteca Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 So can WWE be successful in making Matt Hardy into the next Stone Cold?
bob_barron Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 Yea it was a shoot. Matt Hardy just happened to be wandering around backstage without anyone noticing, and then he attacked Edge. I bet Edge sure was shocked!
CanadianChris Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 So can WWE be successful in making Matt Hardy into the next Stone Cold? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Funny, and here I thought they were trying to turn Cena into the next Stone Cold.
SuperJerk Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 You KNOW it was a work because Kane and Snitsky were conveniently brawling in the crowd giving Matt the opportunity to do the run in. I'm not saying the firing 3 months ago was a work, just tonight.
razazteca Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 So can WWE be successful in making Matt Hardy into the next Stone Cold? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Funny, and here I thought they were trying to turn Cena into the next Stone Cold. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah and Orton was suppose to be the next Rock. Did Cena ever get taken away from the ring in handcuffs by police or backstage officials?
SuperJerk Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 So can WWE be successful in making Matt Hardy into the next Stone Cold? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Funny, and here I thought they were trying to turn Cena into the next Stone Cold. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah and Orton was suppose to be the next Rock. Did Cena ever get taken away from the ring in handcuffs by police or backstage officials? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes.
BorneAgain Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 So can WWE be successful in making Matt Hardy into the next Stone Cold? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Funny, and here I thought they were trying to turn Cena into the next Stone Cold. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah and Orton was suppose to be the next Rock. Did Cena ever get taken away from the ring in handcuffs by police or backstage officials? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Once when JBL had him arrested a week prior to Wrestlemania XXI.
ChrisMWaters Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 So can WWE be successful in making Matt Hardy into the next Stone Cold? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Funny, and here I thought they were trying to turn Cena into the next Stone Cold. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah and Orton was suppose to be the next Rock. Did Cena ever get taken away from the ring in handcuffs by police or backstage officials? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, during the build to Cena/JBL at WrestleMania 21.
Epic Reine Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 "Did Cena ever get taken away from the ring in handcuffs by police or backstage officials?" Yes. The Smackdown before Wrestlemania 21, JBL had Cena arrested and taken away.
Epic Reine Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 Can someone upload the segment again? I'd really love to see that shit again.
Shooting Star Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 Holy shit can anyone upload it? I can't wait a whole month until they show it here!
Guest shaqaustin34 Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 So I still don't know was that a shoot, because it sure as hell looked like it. For example: the anouncer were rather quite, also they tackled him real fucking hard, and the announcer act like nothing happened after they came back from commercial.
DMann2003 Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 So I still don't know was that a shoot, because it sure as hell looked like it. For example: the anouncer were rather quite, also they tackled him real fucking hard, and the announcer act like nothing happened after they came back from commercial. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Need we reiterate They let the mic stay live He was on camera a full 3 minutes afterwards Kane/Snitsky conveniently left ringside.
iggymcfly Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 They also waited for him to grab a microphone so that he could talk, followed him with a camera, and failed to throw him out after he first attacked Edge, conveniently during the 30 seconds Edge was televised backstage. This does beg an interesting question though. With the general wrestling thread about fans who think "title matches are real", etc., etc., how many fans do you think believed this was a shoot? I bet it's higher than you'd think, somewhere in the 20-25% range.
bob_barron Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 So I still don't know was that a shoot, because it sure as hell looked like it. For example: the anouncer were rather quite, also they tackled him real fucking hard, and the announcer act like nothing happened after they came back from commercial. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Can you imagine what would've happened if Kane and Snitsky didn't brawl to the back?? It would've been out of control! Matt is so lucky!
Guest KingofHarts Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 I got to give it to the WWE, they have learned to utilize the internet and these boards, and lets face it..They got 99.99% of us to believe it was all real. But the major question is where do they go from here? Most of those Arena fans were only chanting "We want Matt" to piss off Lita & Edge not because they actually want Matt back. So unless they pull the trigger on Matt quickly he's destined to go back to Mid-Cardem.
sluggo Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 I mean come on. I read the thread about him being backstage and I kept thinking myself it was bullshit. Then once Vince went with Y2J/Cena at Summerslam I KNEW Matt was there. Every reporter had Edge/Cena at SS. Once Eric made Cena/Y2J that left no one for Edge. It was that simple. I wasn't even surprised by the attack.
Guest KingofHarts Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 I got to give it to the WWE, they have learned to utilize the internet and these boards, and lets face it..They got 99.99% of us to believe it was all real. But the major question is where do they go from here? Most of those Arena fans were only chanting "We want Matt" to piss off Lita & Edge not because they actually want Matt back. So unless they pull the trigger on Matt quickly he's destined to go back to Mid-Cardem. Sorry this is posted twice the computer F'ed up
MarvinisaLunatic Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 I wondering if the "Lita cheats on Matt with Edge" part is real at this point as well..
iggymcfly Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 I got to give it to the WWE, they have learned to utilize the internet and these boards, and lets face it..They got 99.99% of us to believe it was all real. But the major question is where do they go from here? Most of those Arena fans were only chanting "We want Matt" to piss off Lita & Edge not because they actually want Matt back. So unless they pull the trigger on Matt quickly he's destined to go back to Mid-Cardem. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, I'm pretty sure that it was real. They just heard the "We Want Matt" chants at all the arenas, and decided they might be able to make a successful angle out of the whole thing, so they made it worth Matt's while to come back.
SuperJerk Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 I can't honestly believe that they planned this whole thing out over 3 months ago. What PROBABLY happened was that management realized after the weeks and weeks of "we want Matt" chants that maybe the crowd actually wanted Matt. They did the titantron gag during the wedding segment as a trail balloon. Of course it got a monster pop, and THEN the decision was made to bring him back.
razazteca Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 "Did Cena ever get taken away from the ring in handcuffs by police or backstage officials?" Yes. The Smackdown before Wrestlemania 21, JBL had Cena arrested and taken away. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So they used the same idea more than once....color me surprised.
iliketurtles Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 They did a fantastic job with the angle tonight. They even have the internet insider fans thinking it was real. This was the best "shoot" angle I've ever seen.
Fro Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 The Michaels collapse was a little better than this (that fooled almost everyone), but this is a very, very close 2nd.
SuperJerk Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 The Michaels collapse was a little better than this (that fooled almost everyone), but this is a very, very close 2nd. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dangerous A Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 Well executed re-debut of Matt. You could see the crowd is already behind the guy. I like the suggestion to keep Matt as sort of an outsider the next few weeks and even making their first match at Summerslam (you know it'll come to that) an unsanctioned street fight of some kind. Outsider Matt has more of a rebel feel as opposed to the forced rebel thing they are trying with Cena and Bischoff. Matt coming back also explains why they are going with Jericho/Cena instead of Cena/Edge, which I'm OK with.
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