Guest TheDon Report post Posted September 12, 2005 Career is done. 7 Stanley Cups and an MVP award. Thanks for 1994 Messiah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted September 12, 2005 Damn, I forgot he was still around... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fishyswa Report post Posted September 12, 2005 I thought he was gonna play at least until he was 60.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stahl 0 Report post Posted September 12, 2005 He only won 6 cups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted September 12, 2005 At least Mess got to have the moment at MSG that he got last year at the end of the regular season ... where he got to thank the fans and have them thank him. If memory serves, it was vs Buffalo, but regardless of the team the players showed their respects by tapping the ice with their sticks. Too many other retiring greats got their "moments" taken from them by the stupid lockout. People like MacInnis deserved the chance to skate on the ice in SL one more time before hanging up their skates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted September 12, 2005 He was my favourite player. I think he was the last player left from when I started watching hockey in 1981, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted September 12, 2005 I thought he was going to be the Terry Funk of the NHL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianGuitarist 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2005 Phomenal grit, and one of history's best combinations of hands/grit. He really was a complete package on the ice. And I didn't even mention he was the best leader in the history of sport. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2005 And I didn't even mention he was the best leader in the history of sport. He's certainly a top candidate, but if we brainstorm, we might find someone who can give him a run for that title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2005 the messiah? haha, never heard that before. better leaders than messier? thats such a vague accolade, especially since we can't understand what a true nhl leader is without actually being a dressing room with any of the candidates. if i want someone to rally my troops around, as a spectator, i'd choose scott stevens over mark messier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Steve Yzerman? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 i was thinking him too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Joe Sakic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fartsauce 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 I'm torn in the argument over Yzerman and Messier. Messier had his glory years for my favourite team while Yzerman is my favourite player ever. I'll call it a tie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Having never been in any of the locker rooms, I'd have a hard time saying who's the best behind closed doors ... but I'd put Messier, Stevens & Bourque as the top 3 in my adult lifetime. Yzerman would get the honorable mention. Sakic's close, but has had too many other superstars to assist him during his run as Captain. Question for people in Western Canada ... is Pronger going to wear an A on his sweater this year for the Oilers? (I guess I better question is who were the Alternates last year, and are both more worthy of the status than Pronger?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Sakic is the new Yzerman: the motivational leader despite being eclipsed somewhat by a teammate (Forsberg and Roy, Federov, Hull, Hasek). He'll be listed as one of the great captains eventually. As for Stevie Y, is he gonna give it one more year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Thanks to Messier for giving the Rangers the only shining moment they'll probably ever have for another 80 years or whatever the drought was... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Just heard on the radio that Ron Francis retired. He was still around, too?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2005 I'm partial to Yzerman...it's a hometowner thing. Plus it's easy to root for a guy who sticks with one team his entire career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kismet 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2005 Yes, Yzerman is back for one more year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2005 Thanks to Messier for giving the Rangers the only shining moment they'll probably ever have for another 80 years or whatever the drought was... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> agreed Lush, and personally, the first time I got to watch a NY team win a title and it was just 2 months before I moved. well actually I was around for the ginats 2 superbowls but I didnt actually see them as I didnt car a bout sports much back then since I was just a little kid. but a great moment no doubt Thanks Mark and happy retirement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kapoutman 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2005 Messier was indeed an awesome player. He'll get in the HOF the second his name is on the ballot. Greatest leader ever would have to be Mario Lemieux. When that guy talks, people listen and he leads by example too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2005 Messier was indeed an awesome player. He'll get in the HOF the second his name is on the ballot. Greatest leader ever would have to be Mario Lemieux. When that guy talks, people listen and he leads by example too. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The HOF class in three years is going to be stacked ... Messier, Francis, Stevens, & Macinnis all being eligible simultaneously. And your quote about Lemieux (when he talks people listen & he leads by example) fits for about 95% of all captains in hockey. As much as I like him as a player, Joe Thornton is one of the only ones that I can think of that it wouldn't apply to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2005 And Mats Sundin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2005 Why is Naslund the captain of the Canucks instead of Linden? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2005 I think he was made captain while Linden was with the Islanders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2005 I'm pretty sure The Max is right ... knowing the two of them, Naslund probably offered it back & Linden said it wasn't necessary, a la Sakic offering the C to Bourque when the B's traded him to the Avs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2005 I think Linden gave up the C when Vancouver signed Messier and then was traded later on to the Isles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites