Guest Dumb Monkey Report post Posted September 17, 2005 Jake and Rick Rude has some great matches and an awesome feud throughout most of 1988...I'm very happy to see their match from the 10/88 MSG house show on here. I'll be getting this set. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Name 1. The three most high profile matches of theirs that I've seen (WM IV, Wrestlefest '88, 10/88 SNME) were complete dog shit. Rude was a borderline good wrestler for a 18 month period in WCW, and Roberts rarely had great wrestling matches. He could cut a killer promo whenever he wanted, but more often than not, his matches stunk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Gabe 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2005 The Jake/Savage incident from SNME absolutely MUST be on this DVD, I remember it so vividly..I was scared big time about it at the time, i was 8 or 9 at the time. Classic TV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ransome Report post Posted September 17, 2005 Colour me unimpressed with that match listing. Did they really need the 1998 ECW match ? I mean, granted, they own the ECW library and have to make good their investment, but why use such a shitty match considering the many great ECW matches that have never made it to a DVD? Even the Wrestlemania match (w/ Honky Tonk Man) feels wasteful with their WM box set coming out in November, and surely the fans that buy the Jake DVD are also the fans most likely to be buying the WM boxset. Obviously, the promos will be all that makes this a worthwhile DVD rent for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JericholicEdgeHead Report post Posted September 17, 2005 I guess it's a matter of opinion...but I liked the Rude/Roberts feud of 1988. As for the matches you mentioned their WrestleMania 4 match was probably the best. Another one would be from the L.A. Sports Arena in August of 88. I haven't seen the October 88 MSG match...which is why I will buy this DVD set. I'm not saying that Rude and Roberts had 5 star matches but they were far from "dog shit" considering alot of stuff that was going on in the WWF in 1988. As for Rick Rude...Rude had some of his best matches in the WWF with Roberts along with Ricky Steamboat. I think alot of people look down on Rude's WWF career because he always got paired up in feuds with lame talent like Ultimate Warrior, Brutus Beefcake, and Hacksaw Jim Duggan. Even Ric Flair would have a tough time looking good having to wrestle those hacks night in and night out. Back to Jake...Jake also had some good matches with Ted Dibiase, Ricky Steamboat and Curt Hennig during this time period. Jake wasn't a high flyer or spot machine wrestler but was a master in ring psychology and could work 20+ minute matches with the best WWF had to offer back then. From 1986 to 1990 Jake was an above average wrestler in the WWF believe it or not. Age and bad habits caught up with him quick though and in my opinion he stuck around too long and alot of fans remember him for his 1996 run as an out of shape has-been drunk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2005 I think the match listing is fine. Relatively few recycled matches from widely spread ppvs or other dvds. While unspectacular, I'm looking forward to seeing the rare goodies on it. Roberts/Poffo should be an entertaining extra as well as his pre-WWF stuff. The Snake Bite segment was replayed at Survivor Series 1991 anyway and I'm sure it'll be brought up in the main feature. However, I'm thinking they just want to shy away from showing too much Macho Man footage for fear of having to put up w/ his tantrums for using his likeness and all that jazz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2005 that shouldn't matter, though, should it? They own the videos, they can do as they please with them... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNope 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2005 that shouldn't matter, though, should it? They own the videos, they can do as they please with them... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And if they were going to omit Savage they wouudn't have mentioned him in the DVD description. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
landy1987 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 extra info from BBFC.co.uk: n/a (JAKE THE SNAKE ROBERTS: PICK YOUR POISON DISC 1) 00:57:07:04 (JAKE THE SNAKE ROBERTS: PICK YOUR POISON DISC 1 - THIEVES OF DREAMS) n/a (JAKE THE SNAKE ROBERTS: PICK YOUR POISON DISC 2) 00:48:36:13 (JAKE THE SNAKE ROBERTS: PICK YOUR POISON DISC 2) n/a (JAKE THE SNAKE ROBERTS: PICK YOUR POISON DVD EXTRAS DISC2) 00:06:15:03 (JAKE THE SNAKE ROBERTS: PICK YOUR POISON DVD EXTRAS DISC1) 00:12:40:02 JAKE ROBERTS VS. RONNIE GARVIN 00:09:26:18 JAKE ROBERTS VS. LEAPING LANNY POFFO 00:13:22:19 (JAKE ROBERTS VS. RICKY STEAMBOAT) 00:15:07:13 (WRESTLEMANIA III VS. HONKY TONK MAN) 00:18:09:15 (JAKE ROBERTS VS. RICK RUDE) 00:09:26:08 (JAKE ROBERTS VS. EARTHQUAKE) n/a (JAKE THE SNAKE ROBERTS: PICK YOUR POISON DVD EXTRAS DISC2) 00:08:28:02 (SUPERSTARS) 00:11:53:07 (JAKE3 ROBERTS VS. STING) 00:14:32:06 (JAKE ROBERTS VS. DIRTY WHITE BOY) 00:07:39:16 (JAKE ROBERTS VS. STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN 00:13:17:09 (JAKE ROBERTS VS. JERRY THE KING LAWLER) 00:01:49:02 ROBERTS RUN-IN DURING TOMMY DREAMER VS. JERRY THE KING LAWLER 00:13:28:23 JAKE ROBERTS & TOMMY DREAMER VS. JUSTIN CREDIBLE & JACK VICTORY 00:01:18:20 (JAKE ROBERTS & RICKY STEAMBOAT INTERVIEWED BY BOB CAUDLE 00:01:08:16 (JAKE ROBERTS & PAUL ELLERING INTERVIEWED BY GORDON SOLIE) 00:01:55:08 EASTER EGG n/a (JAKE THE SNAKE ROBERTS: PICK YOUR POISON DVD EXTRAS DISC3) 00:00:46:07 (NO TITLE ON SCREEN) 00:07:40:20 (RAVISHING RICK RUDE TRIES TO GET CHERYL ROBERTS IN A RUDE AWAKENING) 00:03:56:01 (BROTHER LOVE INTERVIEWS - JAKE AND CHERYL ROBERTS) 00:03:35:02 MEAN GENE OKERLUND INTERVIEWS JAKE ROBERTS) 00:06:33:11 RICK MARTEL SPRAYS ARROGANCE IN JAKE ROBERTS EYES ON THE BROTHER LOVE SHOW) 00:03:56:08 (JAKE TALKS ABOUT DAMIEN AND LUCIFER ON THE BARBER SHOP WITH BRUTUS BEEFCAKE) 00:04:12:03 (JAKE ROBERTS TRAPS ULTIMATE WARRIOR IN A CASKET) 00:04:00:01 (JAKE ROBERTS BURIES ULTIMATE WARRIOR) 00:04:51:24 (JAKE ROBERTS TRAPS ULTIMATE WARRIOR IN A SNAKE FILLED ROOM) 00:02:37:00 (MEAN JEAN INTERVIEWS JAKE ROBERTS) 00:01:53:12 (JAKE ROBERTS INTERVIEW KAMALA & FRIENDS ON SNAKE PIT) 00:02:13:12 (JAKE ROBERTS INTERVIEWS JUNK YARD DOG ON SNAKE PIT) 00:02:24:22 (JAKE ROBERTS INTERVIEWS HULK HOGAN ON SNAKE PIT) 00:02:01:15 (JAKE'S RELATIONSHIP WITH CHILDREN) 00:00:30:22 (HOW JAKE BECAME THE SNAKE) 00:01:19:24 (WORKING WITH DYNAMITE KID) 00:03:43:22 (LEGION OF DOOM) 00:02:22:08 (STEAMBOAT SAVED MY LIFE ONE NIGHT) 00:03:57:14 (MEETING DICK EBERSOL) 00:01:14:00 (NO TITLE ON SCREEN) 00:01:26:00 (SNAKE ON THE LOOSE.... 00:02:00:03 (GRIZZLY SMITH) 00:01:47:02 HOGAN / JAKE FEUD 00:00:32:19 EASTER EGG - ANIMALS PERSPECTIVE ON BEATING UP BUNDY 00:01:02:01 EASTER EGG HOGAN MEETS GRIZZLY 00:00:58:21 EASTER EGG JAKE DRIVING GRIZZLY 00:03:33:03 DVD MENU (VIDEO ELEMENTS ONLY) Thank god the Jake/Warrior skits are on there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 Flipping sweet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 Is the blinfold match from Wrestlemania 7 on it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2005 this is indeed a two disc set confirmed in the new sd magazine (if this is old news, I apologize) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2005 nothing with the macho man? yuck. ill still get this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notJames 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2005 Next… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 I'm guessing they only left out Savage so they can save it for his inevitable DVD! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BorneAgain 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 Trailer from FYE, complete with Savage Snake Bite! http://shop.fye.com/product.aspx?sku=40722326&loc=50244 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 Damnit BorneAgain, now you've made me want the dvd even more! *shakes fist at you while trying to contain excitement* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darthtiki 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 For a second there I thought that was David Crosby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LooseCannon25 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 I'll only get this dvd under one circumstance. All I ask is that it has the "trust me" evil remix entrance song on the dvd somewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted October 19, 2005 The matches aren't going to be great but the promos and the feature sold me. Jake's story is much more engaging and compelling then "Jim Warrior Hellwig went wacko". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 I'll be getting the Jake DVD. I won't touch the Warrior DVD with a ten foot pole. You couldn't pay me to watch it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustJoe2k5 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2005 From www.silvervision.co.uk: Jake The Snake Roberts: Pick Your Poison DVD Jake "the Snake" Roberts: Pick Your Poison reveals the real story behind the legend. Get insights into the man who instilled horror into the hearts and minds of Hulk Hogan, "Macho Man" Randy Savage, Ricky Steamboat. Ultimate Warrior and others as he battled in some of the biggest matches of the 1980s and '90s. Hear what it was like to carry a live, 70-pound smake. Go behind the scenes and learn more about the controversial battles with Jerry "The King" Lawler. Listen as he reveals family tragedies, drug addictions and the personal demons that diverted his remarkable career. A master storyteller, Jake Chronicles his amazing career highlights and unimaginable lowlights. Plus 4 hours of extras, including many complete matches: vs. Rickey Steamboat, Snake Pit Match, The Big Event - 28/08/86 vs. Honky Tonk Man, Wrestlemania III - 29/03/87 vs. Ravishing Rick Rude, Rude Awakening vs. DDT Match, MSG - 24/10/88 w/Ricky Steamboat vs. Jim Nelson & Mike Miller, Mid-Atlantic - 09/09/81 vs. Ronnie Garvin, World Television Championship Match, Georgia Championship - 12/03/83 vs. Leaping Lanny Poffo, MSG - 16/03/86 vs. Earthquake, Superstars - 27/04/91 vs. Sting, Coal Miner's Glove Match, Halloween Havoc - 25/10/92 vs. Dirty White Boy, Smoky Mountain Heavyweight Championship, Smoky Mountain Wrestling - 07/05/94 vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin, King of the Ring Final - 23/06/96 vs. Jerry "The King" Lawler, SummerSlam - 18/08/96 w/Tommy Dreamer vs. Justin Credible & Jack Victory, November 2 Remember - 01/11/98 - The Snake Pit Moments with Hulk Hogan and Junkyard Dog - Classic interviews & promos with Vince McMahon, Brother Love, Mene Gene Okerland and more <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My guess is they'll address the feud with Randy Savage in the feature itself. Since the feud was more about everything happening outside of the ring, including a match would be rather pointless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2005 I'll be getting the Jake DVD. I won't touch the Warrior DVD with a ten foot pole. You couldn't pay me to watch it. What if I threw mine at you and it hit you?........I should have waited on the Warri or dvd, I really should have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2005 My guess is they'll address the feud with Randy Savage in the feature itself. Since the feud was more about everything happening outside of the ring, including a match would be rather pointless. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't think it would have. I mean, they could have at least put the match from Tuesday in Texas in there that was hyped all during the Survivor Series that year. The heat was way-up for that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2005 My guess is they'll address the feud with Randy Savage in the feature itself. Since the feud was more about everything happening outside of the ring, including a match would be rather pointless. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't think it would have. I mean, they could have at least put the match from Tuesday in Texas in there that was hyped all during the Survivor Series that year. The heat was way-up for that one. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Was that the one where Taker stops Jake from hitting Savage with the chair and that segues into the Taker/Snake feud? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2005 I'll be getting the Jake DVD. I won't touch the Warrior DVD with a ten foot pole. You couldn't pay me to watch it. What if I threw mine at you and it hit you?........I should have waited on the Warri or dvd, I really should have. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Does it at least have a good nostalgia factor via the matches? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2005 My guess is they'll address the feud with Randy Savage in the feature itself. Since the feud was more about everything happening outside of the ring, including a match would be rather pointless. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't think it would have. I mean, they could have at least put the match from Tuesday in Texas in there that was hyped all during the Survivor Series that year. The heat was way-up for that one. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Was that the one where Taker stops Jake from hitting Savage with the chair and that segues into the Taker/Snake feud? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, that came the sometime after Royal Rumble '92 IIRC. The Tuesday in Texas match is the one were Roberts slaps Elizabeth after the match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MARTYEWR 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2005 The Ultimate Warrior DVD has the Randy Savage WrestleMania VII match, as well as the Hulk Hogan WrestleMania VI match. I think the Savage match is worth the purchase alone if you can wait for the price to drop quite a bit. Both matches have that nostalgia factor, and if you're a completist for DVD quality, then you can do worse than adding them to the collection. As for the main feature, as has been discussed many times, it's filled with tons of lies as far as what's discussed, but that has a weird entertainment value to it. I can only speak for myself, but I found it shockingly re-watchable too, maybe because of the outrageousness of some of the comments. It has some sort of value, in a way, that something like the Road Warriors DVD main program doesn't. Wouldn't shock me if they were doing that to make the DVD stand out from all their other releases. I also hate to repeat something Scott Keith said, but he was right in his review when he said there's entertainment value when certain people go to great lengths to lie and bury someone they disliked, or didn't play by their rules, or whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2005 Was that the one where Taker stops Jake from hitting Savage with the chair and that segues into the Taker/Snake feud? No, that was their blow-off match, which was the main event on the 2nd to last SNME. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2005 wweshop.com is selling a package w/ the dvd, a mini-book, and a pretty sweet retro Jake Roberts t-shirt for $26.97. I'll buy it: http://www.wweshop.com/Product_detail.asp?productId=50-00964 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2005 I'm guessing they only left out Savage so they can save it for his inevitable DVD! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Doesn't the WWE think Savage is just as crazy as The Warrior? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites