zappafrank 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 WWE (the company) alone (19): Pedro Morales Randy Savage The Ultimate Warrior Bret Hart Shawn Michaels Diesel Hunter Hearst Helmsley/Triple H Rocky Maivia/The Rock Steve Austin Edge Chris Jericho Kurt Angle Chris Benoit Eddie Guerrero Kane Rob Van Dam Booker T Randy Orton Ric Flair Only in other companies (8, for a combined total of 27): Ricky Steamboat (NWA) Rick Rude (WCW International, if you want to count it) Curt Hennig/Mr. Perfect (AWA) Kerry Von Erich/The Texas Tornado (NWA) Jeff Jarrett (WCW, NWA) Shane Douglas/Dean Douglas (NWA, ECW) Ken Shamrock (NWA) Christian (NWA) The sentiment is nice, but that's hardly a "handful" there, JR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonL21 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 that's typical announcer garbage they always spit out....You should be used to it.. Just like "no one has ever kicked out of a particular finishing move....Even as a kid as noticed that when Vince would say it and be like...Nah..Someone kicked outta that before Exactly how long have u been watchin wrestling? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntiLeaf33 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 Kayfabe....look it up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 Partial Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter Although MVP tells people that his real name is Antonio Banks, it is actually Hasaan Asaad. Hopefully he doesnt start pissing people off or he might get repackaged as a terrorist. I'm wondering if his birth name is Antonio Banks, however he legally changed it when he "found religion" when imprisoned as a teenager and needed certain protection the Muslim Brotherhood could offer. Thats what I was thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 PWI is reporting that Victoria has signed a 3-year contract extension with WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbondrage99 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 Sure its not really a handful, but I suppose when you look at the long list of wrestlers that there have been since these titles were created way back when, then the claim gets a little more steam added to it. When looking at that perspective than sure of the 1000s of wrestlers who made there lives in the business only a handful had been world champs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 PWI is reporting that Victoria has signed a 3-year contract extension with WWE. My guess is that they're keeping her to train the divas, plus she doesn't seem to mind putting less talented people over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 Also, for those of you who have written about this, and we haven't gotten so much mail about a simple TV match finish in a long time, the story behind that Edge-Shawn Michaels pinfall at Raw and how it went down is discussed in detail in Monday's Observer. This should make for some interesting reading. So... anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veseo 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 Also, for those of you who have written about this, and we haven't gotten so much mail about a simple TV match finish in a long time, the story behind that Edge-Shawn Michaels pinfall at Raw and how it went down is discussed in detail in Monday's Observer. This should make for some interesting reading. So... anything? Raw head writer Brian Gewirtz was credited, or blamed, depending on your point of view, for booking Shawn Michaels to pin World Heavyweight champion Edge on his last night on Raw. Gewirtz's explanation was that guy leaving the territory, or brand in this case, has to job on the way out. Triple H was the power behind the move because when it was questioned, he supported it, which made it close to a done deal. There is a belief backstage that Triple H doesn't want Edge to succeed, noting that he tried to block all previous plans of him to moving to SmackDown and winning the title until Mr. Kennedy went down with an injury, and at this point he couldn't reasonably block it anymore. There was vocal opposition to Edge being pinned, saying that it makes the SmackDown title and champion look secondary. Triple H's argument was that HBK is the biggest tenured star on the brand, and he had just put over Khali, and he needs a big win because he'll be wrestling Cena on PPV again within the next few shows. On the other hand, Michaels suggested doing a non-finish, since from his perspective, the key point of the match was for him to be beat down by Randy Orton to promote their match for tonight at Judgment Day. Michaels said he didn't want to bury the SmackDown title but was told it was Vince McMahon's decision and he wasn't changing it. As you might imagine, Edge wasn't pleased with the booking decision and he wasn't hiding his dissatisfaction backstage that night. Edge is said to be happy to move over to Smackdown because internally it's considered less political, not to mention that he doesn't have to deal with a certain wrestler as much anymore. Stupid, but this is the truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 These guys need a lesson in booking 101. They always get things about half right while missing the big picture at the same time. It does make sense for Michaels to get a big win and it does make sense for a guy leaving the territory to do a big job on the way out. But you never job your world champion out to a non-contender, especially when they are just starting their run with the belt. That kills all the momentum Edge had right out of the gate. Stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taker666 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 Really, Its all about personal opinion rather than logic and whats good for the company. Triple H hates Edge, so hes made to look like shit. Champion or not. Now that steph has more control now. expect more shit like this in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luke-o 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 Taker666, looking at your sig, Smackdown is really heel dominated. Probably why it rules so much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecca 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 Triple H is such a little bitch, god forbid someone actually get over as a heel you'd think you raped his mom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 I just want what's best for business. -HHH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luke-o 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 I just want what's best for me. -HHH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 Here is why Brian Gewirtz is a complete moron. Edge isn't leaving the company! Look, Raw and Smackdown are separate shows in theory but it's all just WWE. Thus it's imbecilic to keep jobbing guys out who are leaving for SD, since it only serves to hurt the image of that show to have these guys who were last seen getting buried on Raw. I even remember thinking it was stupid that they buried Rene Dupree hard in 2004 on his last Raw before he went to Smackdown. He jobbed in a match and then Austin stunned him a few times if I recall, just to make sure he didn't get over on Smackdown (where they actually tried for a while to push him!). Ever notice that guys leaving SD are usually never jobbed out in this fashion? I don't recall John Cena jobbing to JBL in a non title match in June 2005 before he left to go to Raw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonL21 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 I just want what's best for me. -HHH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 --Nothing is for certain regarding Shawn Michaels until he has his knee fully checked this week. There is a (hoped for) estimate of him being back for Survivor Series but anything at this point is speculation other than he's off everything and all Raw summer main events plans have to be changed again. Making beating Khali like they did even more silly. They should have flip flopped the title matches and had Khali get DQ'd while beating Cena to a pulp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luke-o 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 Its a moot point anyways, cause JR said, "only a handful of people have been IC and US champ." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fazzle 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 How many people can you really fit in a hand anyways? Like....... 1/20th of a person, maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 Ross has seen more wrestlers compete than any of us have. Thus, from his perspective, the statement is accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 As for the IC and World, and US and WCW titles, there was once a time when the IC or US champion was the number one contender, so it's not that unlikely to have a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J.T. 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 Fuck that. Until the crowd gives a shit about Khali, he shouldnt be near the Mian Event. Get him away fron the title NOW, keep building his heat and make the ultimate rematch make money. Dont juts throw him at Cena and panic. There are plenty of over guys Cena can fued with (For fucks sake, give Benoit a run). Khali was rushed to the ME already, there is still time to pull him and build him right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boon 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 ...Did this really deserve a thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 And here we go with the CTDWAT trolls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 ONS = UnCenSorEd Is there anyone thats excited for the PPV? Essentially it looks like rematches of Lashley/McMahon, Cena/Kahli and Edge/Batista...but OOH..everything is EXTREME RULEZ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 Yeah, i'm guessing it's just me, but I don't like the idea that new threads shouldn't be made. Everybody posting in five threads a week seems kind of lame. As a forum owner myself, I guess I just like to see an active forum with lots of topics, we just seem to trot over the same subject in CTDWAT. And this CTDWAT situation has gone too far, I thought it was originally created for things like 'Rob Conway broke his little finger' or 'The Blue Meanie is in talks with WWE about a run', but it's resulted in every single thread being deemed unthreadworthy. People come to a message board to talk about things, would it really be the worst thing to going back to having lots of active topics? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boon 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 And here we go with the CTDWAT trolls. First of all, I hardly ever post in the WWE folder. Thank you for reminding me why. I just find it hard to believe that JR saying something stupid in kayfabe is A) new or B) really worth talking about. I've no problem with lots of active topics, but I do think it should be about something at least halfway important. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike wanna be 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 I like how JR & King buried the entire concept every time it was brought up. "Every match is extreme rules Keeng!" "What kind of a moron would have a show with all extreme rules?" And so on, and so on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 And here we go with the CTDWAT trolls. How is he trolling? Because he questions a thread that even for this forum had no reason to be made? The Kennedy one I can kind of see warranting a thread, but JR's comments? No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites