ECW Spoilers for 11/7/06 Tapings

[Mecca 0]

I hope Punk busts into his Homicide impression.

 

Will he talk about tranny bars and how Homicide almost pissed on him?

[Thanks for the Fish 0]

I think the only two possible winners are RVD and CM Punk. I still believe RVD is the right way to go at this point, however I think there is a real possibility that Punk could get the win for the simple reason that he had a ready made undercard match with Knox that was seemingly rushed to have him included in the match. If RVD was going to win, you could have had just about anybody else fill Punks spot in the elimination chamber.

 

Another thing to consider is that Champ RVD has already feuded with Test and Holly, however a CM Punk as champ would have fresh matches with Test and Holly, along with Sabu, RVD and Dreamer or any other wrestler not named Moore, Knox or Dupree.

 

The problem I see with Punk winning the title is that the ECW booking mold that has the champion defending the title every week in the main event. He'll be over-exposed and out of competition by January. ECW needs to protect the title holder and the title - defending it every wek cheapens the title defenses(especially PPV's) and over-exposes your champion. I think a much better idea would be to have a tTV title tournement to book the show around and use your heavyweight title and champion for special appearances - saving him for the PPV's.

 

However I got a sneaking feeling that ECW will not be around in a years time, that wwe will fold the brand once the television deal runs out. Canceling the house shows rather than juicing up the roster tells me that the wwe really has little interest in the brand anymore.

 

Another thing reguarding CM Punk, while in Japan ecw and Raw had an interbrand houseshow where Punk ended up wrestling Randy Orton in a 16 minute match. I wonder if Punk impressed the right people in that match and his push is being forced on Heyman.

[Hawk 34 0]

I wouldn't be surprised to see them do a double turn with Punk at D2D. Punk winning the title and aligning with Heyman as the new "model" of ECW (which fits since Heyman has been praising Punk for the last year). It's the sort of thing that WWE loves to do and I think Heyman/Punk would make for a better pairing against RVD then Big Show has thus far.

 

It'd be easy to explain that Heyman was tired of TBS not doing what he said and kept fighting against his wishes.

[Scroby 0]

Punk winning the title would be completely dumb. Now the reason why I state this is because, plain and simple he isn't in a posititon to carry ECW. There's only one title on ECW and whoever holdes that title, is pretty much carring the show and RVD and the Big Show have been doing that as the champions. It's to early to put the title on CM Punk. If Punk wins the title at the ppv, his first title reign will most likely be a flop. Punk's first title needs to be the TV title (or whatever the mid-card title is called) once it gets re-introduced back into ECW, it shouldn't be the ECW title. Well at least not now it shouldn't be.

[Just John 0]

Ok, let me get this straight...

 

1. CM Punk gets into the EC when his feud with Knox is the only thing that closely resembles a viable ppv undercard match.

 

2. Hardcore Holly, a man who was never quite the strong ME face WWE wanted him to be, finally (through a stroke of good/bad luck) gets his back sliced open and gets a standing ovation, making him more over than he was at any point in the last 8 years. They capitalize on this by... Turning him heel a month later? I know he really shouldn't be allied with RVD, but a heel turn?

 

At least Daivari is being allowed to wrestle now.

 

And RVD is the only logical choice for the title. It's 6 months in the making (2.5 years by WWE feud progression time) and is the only thing that's been a recurring theme since the new ECW began. Not even the dumbest writers could miss this.

[claydude14 0]

Maybe a TV title tournament could flesh out the undercard?

[Hawk 34 0]

All you need is 4 other matches and a diva segment.

 

Dreamer/Sandman Vs Striker/Knox in a gimmicked Hardcore match

Terkay and Burke Vs Davari and Khali (Just put Khali in the Andre spot, with Davari working the match) Vs FBI

4 Way Dance involving Dupree, Thorne, Moore and Balls

 

Since I expect SD/RAW cross over, I could see Benoit having an open challenge against any former ECW wrestler and that would be a good way to bring Scorpio/Flash Funk into the WWE.

 

The main push would be with the EC match anyways, so you don't need anything too big on the undercard.

[randomguy 0]

Punk hasn't done a damn thing on ECW yet. His best win is over who - Striker? If they don't want him to look weak they can have two guys elimnate him but putting the title on him would be a joke, he has zero credibility as a title holder. He hasn't beaten anyone even at the midcard level.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

WTF did they have to move Burke/Terkay to ECW..thats almost as bad as moving Kahli/Davari to ECW.

[AmazingRen 0]

I just hope Test doesn't pin Punk.

[razazteca 0]

Maybe a TV title tournament could flesh out the undercard?

If Matt Striker wins this than I would be happy.

[DangerousDamon 0]

Punk chasing the TV Title with a decent heel champion could be really good.

[slimm44 0]

Let's remember it is over a month until the PPV....Holly could get injured

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

"he has zero credibility as a title holder"

 

Neither did Mike Awesome when he won the title, and he was one of the best ECW champions ever because he produced awesome matches and got his opponents over. Perhaps Punk is given the same chance.

[King Cucaracha 0]

And RVD is the only logical choice for the title. It's 6 months in the making (2.5 years by WWE feud progression time) and is the only thing that's been a recurring theme since the new ECW began. Not even the dumbest writers could miss this.

 

Suuure, give the belt back to the druggie. Nothing could go wrong there, huh?

 

RVD was given his shot and he blew it (so to speak). Why you, as WWE owner not just as 'evil' Vince McMahon, would put the belt back on him just six months later after he so spectacularly fucked everything up in the first place is beyond me. Punk isn't ready for the belt, but RVD doesn't deserve it.

[JPopStarKami 0]

I think Holly is more of a tweener type than a heel.

 

And what REALLY scratches my head is that you all have GREAT ideas on where to take these storyines, but none of your are writers there. Dammit, y'all need to aply for a job over there.

[Art Sandusky 0]

And RVD is the only logical choice for the title. It's 6 months in the making (2.5 years by WWE feud progression time) and is the only thing that's been a recurring theme since the new ECW began. Not even the dumbest writers could miss this.

Suuure, give the belt back to the druggie. Nothing could go wrong there, huh?

 

RVD was given his shot and he blew it (so to speak). Why you, as WWE owner not just as 'evil' Vince McMahon, would put the belt back on him just six months later after he so spectacularly fucked everything up in the first place is beyond me. Punk isn't ready for the belt, but RVD doesn't deserve it.

You act like the dude was on a bender of Juvi-like proportions. Get off your high horse. The same people who spout crap like this always endorsed Kurt Angle despite being addicted to painkillers.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

LEGAL painkillers.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

They had less desire to put the belt on Kurt than on RVD.

[Art Sandusky 0]

They had less desire to put the belt on Kurt than on RVD.

I don't mean in the shortsighted ECW only way. I mean over the last couple of years in regard to Angle.

 

LEGAL painkillers.

Does this make the problem any less severe? I'd rather wrestle a dude who was blazed than zonked on pills.

[NoCalMike 0]

People act like RVD was on a cocaine-induced highspeed chase from the SWAT team........the dude had some Marijuana on him and the WORST CASE SCENARIO is that he would have been given probation and/or fined by the courts.......BIG FUCKING DEAL.

 

The Wellness policy has already been changed to accomodate other workers, which means Vince McMahon is not even taking it seriously. Of course if it is RVD, it is just fine to make him a fall guy and an example, but if it is someone like Orton, the rules need to be re-written as to not interfere with a push........

[randomguy 0]

WWE has been about giving ECW more recognizable names. Punk is not recognizable. I fully expect RVD to win.

 

Punk may be champion but the only way he could win the EC with any credibility would be with some lame thing that would make him almost a defacto heel. (Like RVD and Show do some amazing spot and take each other out)

[Thanks for the Fish 0]

Supposedly the decision as it stands today is to put the title on Test. Test has the look/size VKM covets and is actually decent enough in the ring - actually better than Batista.

 

What does RVD's contract situation look like? I assume he would have been re-upped when they decided to relaunch ECW.

[Toxxic 0]

And RVD is the only logical choice for the title. It's 6 months in the making (2.5 years by WWE feud progression time) and is the only thing that's been a recurring theme since the new ECW began. Not even the dumbest writers could miss this.

Suuure, give the belt back to the druggie. Nothing could go wrong there, huh?

 

RVD was given his shot and he blew it (so to speak). Why you, as WWE owner not just as 'evil' Vince McMahon, would put the belt back on him just six months later after he so spectacularly fucked everything up in the first place is beyond me. Punk isn't ready for the belt, but RVD doesn't deserve it.

You act like the dude was on a bender of Juvi-like proportions. Get off your high horse. The same people who spout crap like this always endorsed Kurt Angle despite being addicted to painkillers.

 

 

I'm on the same high horse, and I certainly don't endorse Angle and his painkiller addiction. Angle was a great wrestler, but the guy needs a reality check and should not be in the ring with others if half of what we've heard about his physical condition is true, whether we're talking about his safety or theirs.

 

However, whatever your opinion of drug taking, there's the public image to think of. Vince is running a company that fights a losing PR battle every day, simply because there's little respect for pro wrestling (and to be fair, the way he runs his company there's no reason for there to be). With one of your biggest stars being fired for being addicted to painkillers (I know, it depends who you believe, but whatever), who do you want to put one of your World Titles on?

 

On the one hand we have Rob Van Dam, the man caught with cannabis on him last time he held the belt and who has done a stoner-related gimmick for what? Close on ten years now?

 

On the other hand we have CM Punk, who is publicly straight-edge and never touches drugs, alcohol or anything like that.

 

Ignore wrestling ability for the moment (although Punk wins on that, too). One of these candidates can potentially be made into PR spin to show your company being responsible, encouraging law-abiding behaviour and so forth. The other just confirms everybody's bad opinions.

[Scroby 0]

Supposedly the decision as it stands today is to put the title on Test. Test has the look/size VKM covets and is actually decent enough in the ring - actually better than Batista.

 

What does RVD's contract situation look like? I assume he would have been re-upped when they decided to relaunch ECW.

I'm sorry and I don't mean to sound like an asshole but where did you hear that the title might go around Test?

[Thanks for the Fish 0]

I'm sorry and I don't mean to sound like an asshole but where did you hear that the title might go around Test?

 

From one of those "news" sites that usually just regurgitates Observer, Insider, Torch premium stuff off as their own(wrestlingunlimited.com). I assume it is/was in one of those(or the like)...

 

Of course they could just be using some deductive reasoning - Big Show is dropping it, RVD is blacklisted - that leaves Sabu, Punk, Test and more than likely Holly. Test has been getting a lot of shared camera time with Heyman lately...

[Insanity 0]

Supposedly the decision as it stands today is to put the title on Test. Test has the look/size VKM covets and is actually decent enough in the ring - actually better than Batista.

 

What does RVD's contract situation look like? I assume he would have been re-upped when they decided to relaunch ECW.

I'm sorry and I don't mean to sound like an asshole but where did you hear that the title might go around Test?

 

Sites have been saying that it's the current plan and the source of the news was Alvarez.

 

Which means it's definitely a fake report because his current newsletter never said any of that stuff. In fact, in his actual words, "but anyway, I’d suspect the other four in the match will be Test, CM Punk, Sabu and Sandman, and if you put a gun to my head today, I’d say the next ECW Champion will be — pardon my shudder — Test."

[MillenniumMan831 0]

Transitioning the ECW Title from a heel to a worse heel is ridiculous.

[Scroby 0]

Supposedly the decision as it stands today is to put the title on Test. Test has the look/size VKM covets and is actually decent enough in the ring - actually better than Batista.

 

What does RVD's contract situation look like? I assume he would have been re-upped when they decided to relaunch ECW.

I'm sorry and I don't mean to sound like an asshole but where did you hear that the title might go around Test?

 

Sites have been saying that it's the current plan and the source of the news was Alvarez.

 

Which means it's definitely a fake report because his current newsletter never said any of that stuff. In fact, in his actual words, "but anyway, I’d suspect the other four in the match will be Test, CM Punk, Sabu and Sandman, and if you put a gun to my head today, I’d say the next ECW Champion will be — pardon my shudder — Test."

Ah, I hate when people take things out of context.

[FroGG_NeaL 0]

I hope it comes down to Punk, Test and Knox. Everybody's expecting Test to pull off the win, Test and Knox team up on Punk untill he pulls off the win.