Supplemental Draft

[Thanks for the Fish 0]

I too would like to see a push for Dreamer. I'd have him upset his way into the tournement final(if that's where it's heading), maybe losing to Benoit in the finals. Benoit could make him look like a million bucks and Dreamer would sell like achamp and take a shit kicking to make it look good.

 

I'm alos hoping for Viscera push. I'm crazy like that. Benoit vs Monster Viscera could even work for me.

 

ECW Faces - Benoit, Punk, Dreamer

ECW Heels - Burke, Cor Von, Viscera, Striker, Nitro, Richards

[Guest SoulxOfxLove]

I think Finlay is heading towards a face turn and think he'll be next in line after Batista is eliminated. I think Edge and Hornswoggle will have great interactions with each other, and once the program is over Finlay could heel rather easily by just beating the stuffing out of Hornswoggle.

 

MVP is another face possibility to challenge Edge. Sure he's a heel know, but I don't think it would be hard to turn him face if needed.

 

Matt Hardy and Mysterio could be solid feuds for Edge as well.

 

Batista - Finlay - Mysterio - Hardy - MVP - Undertaker - would make a pretty solid title reign.

 

I Hope The Deadman Takes It Back..

or We Might Have To Wait For Wrestlemania...

[Perfection 0]

I'm still disgusted Benoit has been put on that worthless show that is ecw....meanwhile we have someone like lashley who is limited in the ring, is not really over considering the massive push he has been getting since before wrestlemania, and who's mic skills suck balls, will continue to be shoved down our throats on raw. Yet the latter is the reason that is always given for why benoit never gets main event pushes. There is no justice.

 

on the bright side, I'm looking forward to seeing some Victoria and Mccool matches. Maybe since they will be on smackdown and not raw, they will be given some more time. I think it could be really good.

[Scroby 0]

I too would like to see a push for Dreamer. I'd have him upset his way into the tournement final(if that's where it's heading), maybe losing to Benoit in the finals. Benoit could make him look like a million bucks and Dreamer would sell like achamp and take a shit kicking to make it look good.

 

I'm alos hoping for Viscera push. I'm crazy like that. Benoit vs Monster Viscera could even work for me.

 

ECW Faces - Benoit, Punk, Dreamer

ECW Heels - Burke, Cor Von, Viscera, Striker, Nitro, Richards

you forgot about Balls and Richards is kind of a tweener.

[fazzle 0]

Viscera is a tweener too, isn't he?

 

 

(in the sense of nobody gives enough of a shit about him, so he can play whatever is needed for that match)

[MillenniumMan831 0]

Viscera is a tweener too, isn't he?

 

 

(in the sense of nobody gives enough of a shit about him, so he can play whatever is needed for that match)

 

I think so, kind of like the Jerry Flynn of WWE.

[Scroby 0]

Yeah, I guess Vis is kind of a tweener, but I sense a Boogeyman vs Viscera feud coming on.

[LJSexay 0]

while I understand the draft is necessary when you have separated rosters and whatnot..

 

..I will never understand why WWE won't try to equally build up the three brands. RAW is like a stacked-ass show, and for guys like me who really prefer Smackdown, half the damn reasons to watch are gone!

 

bah. heh. London and Kendrick on RAW is really something, as is Victoria to SD.

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[Mecca 0]

while I understand the draft is necessary when you have separated rosters and whatnot..

 

..I will never understand why WWE won't try to equally build up the three brands. RAW is like a stacked-ass show, and for guys like me who really prefer Smackdown, half the damn reasons to watch are gone!

 

bah. heh. London and Kendrick on RAW is really something, as is Victoria to SD.

 

Raw is the flagship which more people watch due to alot of factors so that is what they think more people want to see so they care about it more.....not to mention Raw is more about their baby sports entertainment than Smackdown is.

[cabbageboy 0]

A part of me deep down wonders if they are jobbing Edge to Batista. Looking at these roster moves there's still no top level faces on SD whatsoever if Edge gets by Batista. I guess Rey when he gets back is a decent idea, maybe Matt Hardy if they want to play on the past (though no one would buy Matt on that level). The roster is now full of these goofy monster heel guys like Khali and Henry for Batista to face too.

 

Personally....I think Kennedy is the most likely to get buried here. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't I read that HHH demanded Kennedy be moved to Raw because they needed another heel? That would imply he isn't turning face and isn't likely to get back at Edge. In other words, Kennedy has not only been injury prone, but now he's lost his MITB opportunity and will be jobbing to HHH or Cena on Raw...and not turning face.

[Guest Timmer]

My long ass winded rants

 

 

 

 

RAW:

 

Gains:

King Booker & Queen Sharmell

Bobby Lashley

Snitsky

Ken Kennedy

Paul London & Brian Kendrick

Sandman

Daivari

William Regal

Jillian Hall

 

Loses:

The Great Khali

Torrie Wilson

Chris Masters

Ric Flair

Kenny Dykstra

Viscera

Victoria

Eugene

Johnny Nitro

 

Comments:

I like the exchange of talent here. Raw got rid of most of their midcard talent and brought in some fresh faces.

I like Regal, Booker, and Hall coming over.

Sandman kinda confuses me since I figured that would just release him real soon after a couple of jobs. Are they bring him over just to job or will they do something with him?

I was also surprised that Carlito wasn't moved.

With Lashley coming over what does that mean for HHH, Does he come back as a face or a heel? I would think he eventually ends up being a heal and may be why Flair was moved.

Raw now has HHH, Cena, Kennedy, Michaels, and Lashley as main eventers

(I guess you could throw Orton and Booker in order to even up and have some more heels)

Still, there are too many main event faces and will fan reaction force Kennedy to be a face?

I do think that they got a little greedy with Kennedy leaving SD because they had 3 fueds set up with him but oh well...

I'm not excited about Lashley going to RAW because....well he's been on RAW for the last couple of months anyway.

 

 

 

SMACKDOWN

Gains:

The Great Khali

Torrie Wilson

Chris Masters

Ric Flair

Kenny Dykstra

Hardcore Holly

Brett & Brian Majors

Victoria

Eugene

 

Losses:

The Boogeyman

King Booker & Queen Sharmell

Chris Benoit

Ken Kennedy

Paul London & Brian Kendrick

The Miz

Daivari

William Regal

Jillian Hall

 

Comments:

The sooner people realize that WWE is always going to treat SD as a secondary show the better off you will be.

Again, I think it's a good exchange and will have some interesting fueds. Smackdown got some young guys and another tag team to replace K&L, and most of the talent that left SD needed a change of scenery.

Boogeyman to ECW was automatic.

I don't know what that are going to do with Khali except hope again that tape delay makes him look better. Maybe a fued with Mark Henry

The female talent exhange is just to mix up some faces and hopefully will give Victoria a fresh start as I honestly believe she's the best females talent they got but they screwed it up when they tried to turn her face and make her sexy.

I can see MVP getting promoted to main event status soon with the talent exchange as well. I just think that they should had moved him to RAW instead of Kennedy.

ME wrestlers:

Edge, Batista, MVP,Khali, Henry, UT, Mysterio

2nd tier: Dykstra, Matt Hardy, Flair. Masters, Holly

This tells me that people are gonna get some oppertunities (Hardy)

 

 

 

 

ECW:

Gains:

The Boogeyman

Chris Benoit

Viscera

The Miz

Johnny Nitro

 

Loses:

Bobby Lashley

Snitsky

Sandman

Hardcore Holly

Brett & Brian Majors

 

Comments:

I have no problems with Benoit going to ECW. I'm a big Benoit fan and at the risk of getting slammed here, I'm still gonna say this: Benoit has been on the downslide of his career for the last couple of years. He's still able to turn it up from time to time but you can tell when he's hurt. The first thing I thought of when he and Vis got drafted to ECW was this was the same thing that happened to ECW when Paul signed Angle and Big Show to ECW and I think the roles are going to be similiar. Benoit is going to be in the ME picture because he's the vet, kinda like Undertaker on SD. They will have the following ME wrestlers:

Benoit, Punk, Nitro, Marcus, Burke, maybe Boogeyman.

Right now I can't wait to see a Benoit/Punk fued.

[Jingus 0]

Raw is the flagship which more people watch due to alot of factors

Nope. More people watch Smackdown, by far. Remember, Raw is only available on cable, while Smackdown is broadcasted on free tv.

 

 

Smackdown really took it up the ass in the draft, didn't it? Raw will probably get better cuz they lost a lot of dead weight while gaining some valuable talent. ECW will stay the same, partly because except for Benoit they didn't get anyone good, and because it's ECW and it's been a godawful show since day one.

[Mecca 0]

Raw is the flagship which more people watch due to alot of factors

Nope. More people watch Smackdown, by far. Remember, Raw is only available on cable, while Smackdown is broadcasted on free tv.

 

 

Smackdown really took it up the ass in the draft, didn't it? Raw will probably get better cuz they lost a lot of dead weight while gaining some valuable talent. ECW will stay the same, partly because except for Benoit they didn't get anyone good, and because it's ECW and it's been a godawful show since day one.

 

Even with that transition ranking I think Raw generally has a bigger audience........let's face it Friday night is not a good timeslot for the audience they draw.

 

Also ECW has not been bad for quite awhile........of course you are likely one of those guys that doesn't watch it and has yet to realize that Elijah Burke is a breakout star on the rise....

 

All they did with these moves was line up Cena and Triple H's opponents for the rest of the year....Raw booking gotta love it......"everyone is jobbing to Cena and H" then they wonder why they can't make any stars and need to take them from the other shows.

[Black Lushus 0]

Raw is the flagship which more people watch due to alot of factors

Nope. More people watch Smackdown, by far. Remember, Raw is only available on cable, while Smackdown is broadcasted on free tv.

 

 

 

 

why are they 1 to 2 ratings points less than Raw every week if that is the case?

[AntiLeaf33 0]

RAW being too stacked now, and guys getting lost in the shuffle are really my only big issues with the draft.

 

Have a look at King Booker. Guy was WHC a few months ago, and now he's taking some time off. Yes, he may be in the main event of Vengence, but your kidding yourself if you think he is going to get any kind of a main event/WWE Title push anytime soon. He may get a short winded program with Cena to further build up Cena, but aside from that, he has several months of fucking around in the IC title scene.

 

Kennedy also could loose steam on RAW pretty quick as well. If they wanted to move him to RAW, do it after he has his title fued with Edge, and end it with a loser leaves town match.

 

The next few weeks and months are going to be a crucial time on all three shows to see what they are going to do with a lot of their top teir talent.

[mfn 0]

Raw is the flagship which more people watch due to alot of factors

Nope. More people watch Smackdown, by far. Remember, Raw is only available on cable, while Smackdown is broadcasted on free tv.

 

 

 

 

why are they 1 to 2 ratings points less than Raw every week if that is the case?

Do the ratings points come from people who tune in via cable?? How could you tell if someone was watching a television show via broadcast only?

[k thx 0]

They write it down in a little book.

[Black Lushus 0]

Raw is the flagship which more people watch due to alot of factors

Nope. More people watch Smackdown, by far. Remember, Raw is only available on cable, while Smackdown is broadcasted on free tv.

 

 

 

 

why are they 1 to 2 ratings points less than Raw every week if that is the case?

Do the ratings points come from people who tune in via cable?? How could you tell if someone was watching a television show via broadcast only?

 

I don't really know...that was a legit question on my part, not the usual smart ass remark one would fire off oh so wittingly in this folder.

[Perfection 0]

Raw is the flagship which more people watch due to alot of factors

Nope. More people watch Smackdown, by far. Remember, Raw is only available on cable, while Smackdown is broadcasted on free tv.

 

 

 

 

why are they 1 to 2 ratings points less than Raw every week if that is the case?

 

Because those numbers don't represent the same amount of people. In other words, 1 point on broadcast television represents more people than one point on cable.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_Ratings

 

As to the question of how they do it, the relevant portion is this

 

"Measuring Rratings

 

Nielsen Television Ratings are gathered by one of two ways; by extensive use of surveys, where viewers of various demographics are asked to keep a written record (called a diary) of the television programming they watch throughout the day and evening, or by the use of Set Meters, which are small devices connected to every television in selected homes. These devices gather the viewing habits of the home and transmit the information nightly to Nielsen through a "Home Unit" connected to a phone line. Set Meter information allows market researchers to study television viewing habits on a minute to minute basis, seeing the exact moment viewers change channels or turn off their TV. In addition to this technology, the implementation of individual viewer reporting devices (called People meters) allow the company to separate household viewing information into various demographic groups. In 2005, Nielsen began measuring the usage of digital video recordings (TiVo, for example) and initial results indicate that time-shifted viewing will have a significant impact on television ratings. The networks are not yet figuring these new results into their ad rates at the resistance of advertisers.[2]"

[The Tino Standard 0]

Raw is the flagship which more people watch due to alot of factors

Nope. More people watch Smackdown, by far. Remember, Raw is only available on cable, while Smackdown is broadcasted on free tv.

 

 

 

 

why are they 1 to 2 ratings points less than Raw every week if that is the case?

Do the ratings points come from people who tune in via cable?? How could you tell if someone was watching a television show via broadcast only?

 

I don't really know...that was a legit question on my part, not the usual smart ass remark one would fire off oh so wittingly in this folder.

 

I'm pretty sure the scale for broadcast ratings and cable ratings (the number of households that equal a ratings point) are different.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Yes, they are different. The broadcast viewer "universe" is considered to be quite a bit larger than the cable "universe". I don't have the specific breakdown, though I'm sure someone could look it up if they cared to.

 

Basically, though, being on cable only would be a backwards step for WWE at this point.

[Steviekick 0]

Being a dork, I just looked at Nielsen's ratings this page and it seems that both broadcast and cable points are the same (1 point = 1,120,000 households). I think the difference between broadcast and cable has to do with the share of the audience (the measure of how many viewers have a channel available and are watching it at a given time).

[TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe 0]

How do they figure how many people watched though? They have no idea if I am watching it or not.

[Mike wanna be 0]

They don't actually check every household for the Nielsens.

 

They have a sampling (I want to say 50,000 homes, but I don't know the exact number offhand) of families that agree to "work" the ratings. In essence, they have an extra button on their remotes that says "Watching TV"; when they are watching it, they push the button and that sends a signal back to Nielsen HQ to show what channel they're watching, when they change channels, when they mute, and so forth. When they stop watching for whatever reason, they push the button again and that tells HQ to stop reading their report.

 

They take the ratio of homes in the sampling that have the channel & watched it at that time to homes in the United States with access to that channel, and get a "number of people watching the show". They then send that into the rating formula and get a rating from it.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

I've always contended that ratings mean shit since pro wrestling is such a cult niche demographic and the average American isn't a fan, thus sampling isn't fair.

[Nate 0]

I've always contended that ratings mean shit since pro wrestling is such a cult niche demographic and the average American isn't a fan, thus sampling isn't fair.

 

i agree with that, but 10 years ago i think people would think differently, wrestling was all over the place