MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Meanwhile, the Ravens get prime time again vs the Colts on Sunday. bleh Im guessing the Ravens wont get any prime time games on the schedule next year unless its a flex game pick on NBC late in the season. Speaking of such, the Pats last game vs the Giants is on..NFL Network! Thats obviously when they'll lose since no one will get to see it, so it obviously didnt happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Generally speaking when a team should/could have lost two games in a row and still remain unbeaten that means that they probably won't lose. The Steelers are their last real test and after two close calls I expect them to win by about 10 next week, then 3 TDs or more against the Jets, Dolphins and Giants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 I already called Miami over NE a few pages ago, haha. Anyway this is getting downright sickening. The Ravens did about 10 different dumbass things on that last drive, including the incomprehensible timeout, letting Brady scramble for a 1st down, and the obviously bogus penalty that kept the game alive (Miami vs. OSU anyone?). My advice to the Patriots is this: Lose next week. I've seen teams play like this before and a loss is the exact thing they need right now to get refocused. The more they walk the tightrope week after week, the bigger the fall will come. Is there any doubt that the Colts will trounce the Ravens on Sunday? How could the Ravens possibly get back up for that game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grenouille 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Another note: Now I know why the MNF crew gets so much grief. Holy shit was that just unlistenable at times. Especially Kornheiser's flip-flop: Ravens take the lead in the first quarter = "You know, maybe this is the night New England loses." New England cuts the lead to 4 in the 4th = "You know, it's almost inevitable that New England wins this." Pittsburgh must be salivating facing this team after a Monday night game. Should be a glorious game. No kidding. I wouldn't be surprised if Kornheiser tried to slip Shula his room card. The other two weren't much better. The long pause and then disappointment after Gostkowski's kick should tell anyone who they were cheering for tonight. Now, I’ll listen to the WEEI cheerleaders and try to feel better about this win that shouldn’t have been. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ced 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Sports radio in Baltimore is going to be spectacular tomorrow morning. Once Boller threw the pick in Patriots territory, nothing went right at all for Baltimore. In one game, the worst timeout ever, Bart Scott, and 2 yards short. I'm sad that Billick isn't able to give an intense, Dennis Green level tirade about blowing every possible opportunity to win the game. If anybody takes New England now, as unlikely as it is, I hope it's a winless Dolphins team for the greatest double history eraser ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaxxson Mayhem 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 brady completing this bullshit by being a complete and utter asshole during the press conference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaxxson Mayhem 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Tell me what you think of the game Denny. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_N1OjGhIFc Also, this screwjob has to rival the one that went down 10 years ago. He bobbled the ball in the endzone, bullshit holding call, etc. etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 I already called Miami over NE a few pages ago, haha. Anyway this is getting downright sickening. The Ravens did about 10 different dumbass things on that last drive, including the incomprehensible timeout, letting Brady scramble for a 1st down, and the obviously bogus penalty that kept the game alive (Miami vs. OSU anyone?). My advice to the Patriots is this: Lose next week. I've seen teams play like this before and a loss is the exact thing they need right now to get refocused. The more they walk the tightrope week after week, the bigger the fall will come. Is there any doubt that the Colts will trounce the Ravens on Sunday? How could the Ravens possibly get back up for that game? It is in baltimore and if you didnt get the memo, the Colts hate in Baltimore is pretty big so the crowd will be as loud as it was tonight. IF they play like the did tonight but ease up on the dumb penalties, they could beat a Marvin Harrison-less Colts team but as it is they'll probably lose. Im still doubting they win another game the rest of the way unless they find a way to beat Miami (Indy/Seattle/Miami/Pittsburgh) A 4-12/5-11 finish after starting 4-2 should get billick fired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exslade ZX 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 "He said 2 questions, I'm out of here!" Brady must be going to check on that deal with the Devil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Also, this screwjob has to rival the one that went down 10 years ago. He bobbled the ball in the endzone, bullshit holding call, etc. etc. If Billick or whoever doesn't call The Worst Timeout In Recorded History, the last four minutes would never have happened. The refs *really* need to have some concrete guidelines to call these 5-yard defensive holding penalties though; maybe they should actually say what happened to cause the penalty in the announcement to the crowd (like "Holding, 23, defense, grabbing the receiver's shoulder past five yards"). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Or perhaps "he was giving him the business" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Ed Reed just busted out a "they are who we thought they were..er..they not who we thought they were" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) Now, I’ll listen to the WEEI cheerleaders and try to feel better about this win that shouldn’t have been. Belichick is apparently going to be on in the next half hour or so. That should be fun. Anyone that wants to listen just go to WEEI.com and click on "Listen Live". And ignore the meathead hosts. EDIT: Nevermind, he's on right now. Edited December 4, 2007 by KingPK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Or perhaps "he was giving him the business" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zkom-6wMnw I'll never get tired of the 1986 version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaxxson Mayhem 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Mercury using the house reference again on ESPN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Yeah no way Pats go undefeated if they've squeaked it out the last two weeks against a team that was starting a journeyman backup QB and a team that was starting a failed first round draft pick at QB. I think they lose to Pittsburgh next week. If the Pats does beat the Steelers, then I'll be sold on them. I don't know if you're serious or not, but if it takes them beating the Steelers for you to be sold on them...c'mon, you're being sarcastic right? If they does beat the Steelers that is. If you're talking about believing in them going undefeated, well that's far too risky to figure out. As we've seen from the past two weeks anything can happen. They blew out an MVP-calibre QB and top NFC team in Dallas on the road yet they struggled against a journeyman QB playing for the mediocre Eagles at home. This stuff is too random, it's professional sports. Even if they beat the Steelers, I still won't be convinced that they go undefeated. Something like that, which has never happened before in a sixteen game season, seems far too hard to predict accurately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 I know. I never said I would predict it. I said I would be sold on them, as in I could believe in them running the table, something I haven't been able to all season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 It shouldn't be too hard to figure out why the Pats have struggled the last two weeks -- they went up against two teams with a good pass rush that could put pressure on Brady. They didn't face anything like that in the first ten weeks, either because of lack of personnel or poor game-planning. Pittsburgh has the number-one pass defence in the NFL, and they will definitely give them a game next week. I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see them win it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy no nose 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 So basically every Ravens defensive player is yelling conspiracy all over TV. I think their biggest support probably came inadvertantly from Randy Moss who said the refs weren't making that holding call all game and then in the 4th quarter finally made "the right call". The players have to get a sense of what's going to be called and what isn't in the first 59 minutes of the game to know what they can and can't do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MFer 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 The Ravens will definitely be getting a call from Mr. Goodell soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Any truth to the grumblings that the only people allowed to call timeout are players on the field or the head coach? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinetic 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Is there a "Fire Kornheiser" petition out there anywhere? This guy is just the worst color commentator on any football broadcast anywhere. Worse than any of the meathead former linemen, even. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 The Ravens will definitely be getting a call from Mr. Goodell soon. I hope he tells them to shut the hell up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Is there a "Fire Kornheiser" petition out there anywhere? This guy is just the worst color commentator on any football broadcast anywhere. Worse than any of the meathead former linemen, even. He knows he sucks and is planning on leaving after this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My Pal, the Tortoise Report post Posted December 4, 2007 I like Kornheiser in his other ventures, but he's just so out of his element on this one, and I think he knows it, like you said. I get that they were trying to go populist with the booth to recapture the general entertainment feel of Monday Night Football, but I think it's clear that the new Monday Night Football is not the old one, and they'd be better served going with game-film wonks like Ron Jaworski. Tony just isn't a good fit. Terrible officiating last night, by the way. The Ravens have every right to complain about that shit. Why do you hope "Goodell tells them to shut the hell up," Chris? You don't think in your heart of hearts that those guys got a raw deal? Don't be a second-rate limp-noodle Patriots cheerleader. That was crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinetic 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 There was one very bad call, with the defensive holding at the end of the game. The Gaffney catch is debatable, but my feeling is that he had possession of the ball in-bounds, and the slight bobble didn't constitute lack of possession. I'm blanking on the name of Baltimore's second CB, but he claims he was verbally berated by one of the refs for much of the game...says he called him "boy," even. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Kamala 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 I like Kornheiser in his other ventures, but he's just so out of his element on this one, and I think he knows it, like you said. I get that they were trying to go populist with the booth to recapture the general entertainment feel of Monday Night Football, but I think it's clear that the new Monday Night Football is not the old one, and they'd be better served going with game-film wonks like Ron Jaworski. Tony just isn't a good fit. My sentiments exactly. Listening to Kornheiser on MNF is the sports announcing equivalent of the time I heard my dad rap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted December 4, 2007 The only thing I could think at the end of the game...wow, Bart Scott. That's probably the only thing I'll remember about this game in a year or two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 I don't blame Scott. They had the game won like three times and the defensive holding call was bullshit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
majormayhem1 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2007 I guess the Patriots just can't do anything right. They blow teams out and they're "running up the score." Then they have two close games and suddenly there is a blue print for beating them. It seems childish for the Ravens to react the way they did and it's no wonder the officials were calling them "boys." They certainly displayed no dignity in the loss. The Patriots having been playing great all season. That's a hard thing to accept when you're blinded by hatred and jealousy. Someday, all the "Patriot haters" will look back and be able to say "Those were some great teams they had back then" and they'll be wishing they had appreciated greatness when it was in front of them. 35-17, Patriots over Steelers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites