MMA Comments that Don't Warrant a Thread

[AboveAverage484 0]

Overeem fans everywhere are banding together to ensure that I hate him. The amount of people picking Overeem in this fight is nuts. Do they not know that Shogun put a serious hurtin' on Overeem before?

 

Main reasoning for this is the NSAC rules (but Shogun beat him with conventional G N'P last time, so I don't know why this is as big a deal as some are making it) and the shortened rounds. I actually think Overeem has a good chance of taking it, but if I were to bet I'd pick Shogun.

[Insanity 0]

Ryoto Machida will face Forrest Griffin at UFC 70. I'd post the source, but the site I got it from just got blocked.

[AboveAverage484 0]

Ryoto Machida will face Forrest Griffin at UFC 70. I'd post the source, but the site I got it from just got blocked.

 

Arlovski vs. Werdum was announced at the same time.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

I'm late on the Shogun thing, but while I think that he has a groundgame that is much better than Chuck's, I think it doesn't matter since he won't get the fight to the ground.

 

Shogun's wild brawling type style is tailor-made for a slugger like Chuck to find one shot to knock him out. It wasn't just the Nak fight, his standup didn't look so hot against Diabete either. He needs to take that fight to the ground to win, and he won't be able to do it. It's like in boxing, sluggers match up well with swarmers, and this should turn out to be the same. Too bad they'll never fight.

 

After seeing PDP do relatively well (at least compared to expectations) I'm curious to see how Werdum will do. He might be able to pull it off. Of course if he gets steamrolled, PDP, who has adapted his style well for MMA, looks much better as a result.

[AboveAverage484 0]

I'm late on the Shogun thing, but while I think that he has a groundgame that is much better than Chuck's, I think it doesn't matter since he won't get the fight to the ground.

 

Shogun's wild brawling type style is tailor-made for a slugger like Chuck to find one shot to knock him out. It wasn't just the Nak fight, his standup didn't look so hot against Diabete either. He needs to take that fight to the ground to win, and he won't be able to do it. It's like in boxing, sluggers match up well with swarmers, and this should turn out to be the same. Too bad they'll never fight.

 

After seeing PDP do relatively well (at least compared to expectations) I'm curious to see how Werdum will do. He might be able to pull it off. Of course if he gets steamrolled, PDP, who has adapted his style well for MMA, looks much better as a result.

 

I asked Lei who the better MMA grappler was PDP or Werdum, and he confidently answered PDP. Since he knows more about that than I am, I'll say with no small amount of confidence that Arlovski should take this.

[Hawkius Maximus 0]

Other then the fact that Werdum has better overall skills and effectively neutralized most of Nogueria's game just a few months back, of course. You can have all the straight grappling skill in the world, but if you can't APPLY it in a MMA setting it means nothing.

 

Arlovski/Werdum won't have a finish, it's going to a JD no matter who wins it I'd be willing to bet. Arlovski's too good with submissions to be caught, and Werdum's technical enough as a striker to avoid getting his face beat in.

 

I'd pick Werdum to take Arlovski down and control him most of the fight, and if they get in a slug fest don't be surprised to see Werdum nail Arlovski a few times. He DOES train with Mirko Cro Cop.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Yeah, Werdum has competent hands but I don't think he wants to mix it up with Arlovski.

 

I'm not sure that you can say "Arlovski is too good to be caught" as even in the PDP fight he exposed his legs while on the ground which, for a Sambo guy especially is a dumbshit move. Plus we've never really seen Arlovski on the ground for more then a few seconds at a time and we've never seen him put in a position like mount or back mount with somebody like Werdum's grappling skills.

[Hawkius Maximus 0]

To me, and this is purely me, Arlovski seems like the type of guy who'll leave something out there for the opponent, just so he can counter it.

 

Against PDP, he left that out there, then just ROCKED him with that punch. I'm not saying it's a smart move, but it was effective as fuck. It made PDP lower his guard due to the submission...Plus he took advantage of the momentary ref stoppage. Clever move if nothing else.

 

But yeah, you are right. Werdum's training with Mirko, but that doesn't mean he'll want to take Arlovski's shots and we've never seen Arlovski in those situations. I was perhaps a little hasty in my judgment.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Another factor to consider in this fight is the size being pretty much equal. As much as I hate to quote Tim Sylvia here, Arlovski bullies people around because in most of his fights he enjoys a height, reach and weight advantage over his opponents but Werdum is 6'4 and weighs-in at around 240 so it's going to be interesting to see how Andrei deals with that.

[Lei Tong 0]

Plus we've never really seen Arlovski on the ground for more then a few seconds at a time and we've never seen him put in a position like mount or back mount with somebody like Werdum's grappling skills.

 

Once upon a time, Ricco Rodriguez was pretty good.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Should've replaced "We've" with "I've."

[AboveAverage484 0]

Plus we've never really seen Arlovski on the ground for more then a few seconds at a time and we've never seen him put in a position like mount or back mount with somebody like Werdum's grappling skills.

 

Once upon a time, Ricco Rodriguez was pretty good.

 

Just a random question for Lei, what does your top 10 LHW's look like after Saturday? I assume Chuck is still number one, and I've been arguing with some friends over why he should still be. Care to help me out?

[Lord of The Curry 0]

OMG HENDO IS ###1 IN 2 DIVISIONS@!@!~~

[starvenger 0]

Nevermind, I got a hold of him...

[snuffbox 0]

http://www.dailymotion.com/Barneyk/video/x...kliddell-wasted

 

Chuck Liddell vs. 'Nyquil'

 

It's ehme's time!

[Darthtiki 0]

Here's the interviewer calling out Chuck after the interview:

 

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/VideoPla...4&catId=347

 

Anyone get a "Dutch Wagenbach" vibe from him?

[canadafour 0]

Randy Couture v Cro Cop in July or August? Anybody hear that one?

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Nick Diaz tested positive for weed, according to the NSAC website. Not sure if that'll really matter, his eye is keeping him out of action until sometime in May or June and his EliteXC apperance has been called off so it's not like he's got prospects on the horizon, States-wise.

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

I like Nick Diaz a little bit more now. Actually, no, I don't.

[vivalaultra 0]

My Dad's a really big Nick Diaz fan. However, he sometimes gets him confused with Diego Sanchez...for some reason I'm not sure of. Speaking of UFC guys under suspension, shouldn't Bonnar be coming back sometime in the next couple months? I miss Bonnar. Maybe Forrest Griffin can beat up on him again and build some momentum.

[Mik 0]

I'm not even sure he'll ever get another chance. He was coming off back to back losses to Rashad and Forrest and then he got hit with a pretty serious drug. I mean, if I remember it was something you'd have to be borderline retarded to get caught with.

 

I'm not sure they're just gonna let him right back in.

[vivalaultra 0]

Looking it up...he tested positive for Boldenone, the same thing Josh Barnett tested positive for when he was stripped of the HW title a few years back. Yeah, that stays in the blood for several months after use. Not too smart, Stephan. It also says he was suspended for 9 months, so, I guess if they'll take him back, it'll be some time in May.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

The reason Bonnar was using the roids in the first place was because he broke his hand leading up to the fight with Forrest at UFC 62. If he hadn't started using the Boldenone he would've had to drop out of the fight.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

And the reason Diaz was using marijuana was because a buddy of his left a huge bag of doritos over at his house.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Gogoplata's are always more effective whilst stoned. Ask Eddie Bravo or Rogan.

[vivalaultra 0]

Gogoplata

 

Basically choking someone out with your shin. Sweeet!

[Guest Tzar Lysergic]

Better hope it's on tight, or else there's a wide open left hand coming. At least in that demonstration.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

That's not a very good example, but you can't really throw the left because the closer you come in to hit the guy, the further your throat is driven into the shin, so it's not really effective.

 

Here's a better look at it:

 

[snuffbox 0]

Do mma sanctioning bodies also think that marijuana is a performance 'enhancing' substance?

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Yeah, clearly that was more for jiu jitsu and submission grappling than for MMA (Nino's).

 

It's hard to land a free hand punch with a gogoplata locked in, tight or not (though by it's structure, it's hard to not have a tight Gogoplata). First, your thinking at the time is usually "Oh fuck!" rather than "Boy, I've got an arm free, I should punch him with it"; a lot of the time when you see a gogoplata the guy getting it applied to him because very cautious and slows down and tightens/balls up. Second, you won't be getting much power on the strike for two reasons - one, your opponent has your other arm tied up, thus limiting your moment/extension (if you try to pull back with your left arm, it usually really hurts your trapped right shoulder), and two, your opponents knee will be in the way so you have to go over or around it and you lose power and speed that way. I believe the best way to defend a gogoplata is simply pushing down on your opponents foot (and hope he doesn't know the dreaded LOCO PLATA).