dpac Posted August 23, 2003 Report Posted August 23, 2003 Just wondering if the latest PWI 500 is out because Borash mentioned it in his latest column. If it is give me some names and numbers.
tpww7 Posted August 23, 2003 Report Posted August 23, 2003 Someone posted a bunch of the rankings for the indy guys on the ROH board. 11. A.J. Styles 20. Christopher Daniels 22. Raven 26. Low-Ki’ 29. Jerry Lynn 42. Red 45. Paul London 61. American Dragon 87. Syeve Corino 102. Donovan Morgan 111. Doug Williams 122. Devon Storm 123. Jody Fleisch 129. Johnny Storm 131. Frankie Kazarian 149. Jose Maximo 155. Somoa Joe 158. Joel Maximo 163. The Sandman 171. CM Punk 178. Michael Shane 183. Joey Matthews 184. Matt Stryker 189. Julio Dinero 192. Chad Collyer 212. Jonah Adelman 213. Justin Credible 218. BJ Whitmore 223. Simon Diamond 225. Xavier 235. Homicide 239. Quiet Storm 242. Colt Cabana 247. The Blue Meanie 259. Prince Nana 260. Danny Maff 265. Monsta Mack 275. Balls Mahoney 294. Chris Candido 295. Chris Devine 296. Tony DeVito 303. H.C. Loc 310. Slyk Wagner Brown 312. J.R. Ryder 331. Mike Kruel 338. John Walters 348. Rapid Fire Maldonaldo 350. Mr. Oh La La 355. Rob Eckos 356. Ace Darling 358. Chris Hero 382. Striker 386. Japanese Pool Boy 407. Bryan Wenzel 430. E.C. Negro 432. Sonjay Dutt 434. K.C. Blade 438. Johnny Ova 440. Ruffhouse Rivera 453. Xero 455. Mace Mendoza 459. Buff-E 463 Supreme Lee Great 467. John Curse 478. Mega 481. Dave Greco 483. Jimmy Jacobs
Fökai Posted August 23, 2003 Report Posted August 23, 2003 And the top 10, according to someone at the ROH boards - 10. Rob Van Dam 9. Eddie Guerrero 8. Kenta Kobashi 7. Booker T 6. Big Show 5. Chris Jericho 4. Keiji Muto 3. Kurt Angle 2. HHH 1. Brock Lesnar
Nevermortal Posted August 23, 2003 Report Posted August 23, 2003 That list never fails to give me a chuckle.
Youth N Asia Posted August 23, 2003 Report Posted August 23, 2003 Once again CM Punk gets shafted seriously. Big Show #6? I guess. He did manage to suck all year after all.
iliketurtles Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 HHH @ 2??? I thought it was suppose to be the BEST wrestlers in the world. Not the guys that were champions.
Guest The Real Nosferatu Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 PWI usually ranks their monthly top 10 for each promotion by win/loss, quality of opponents and such. Or its doen by random. BTW, did Hulk Hogan get ranked this year, and if so, was it in the 400s? lol
Guest Devin Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 And people say kayfabe is dead.........
Use Your Illusion Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 Once again CM Punk gets shafted seriously. Big Show #6? I guess. He did manage to suck all year after all. No denying, this has been Big Show's best year easily. Pays to be in the ring with the best. UYI
Mecha Mummy Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 Did Funaki make the list this year? Because last year he didn't and I cried.
Guest Black Tiger Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 Keiji Mutoh at #4? What the hell, does PWI think it's 2001 again? If any wrestler from Japan deserved to make the top ten it's fuckin Takayama!
Guest Ray Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 When will people learn that the PWI 500 is NOT based on match quality? It's a kayfabed list heavily influenced by position on the card (except for a few wrestlers picked to look smart). That's why HHH and Show are so high....they've been in main events constantly. You shouldn't pay much attention to this list. btw, GUERRERO SHOULD BE #1
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 Exactly. This list is based on the premise that pro wrestling is a legitimate sport.
Youth N Asia Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 Once again CM Punk gets shafted seriously. Big Show #6? I guess. He did manage to suck all year after all. No denying, this has been Big Show's best year easily. Pays to be in the ring with the best. UYI It's just sad looking at the way he use to move in the ring in 99 to how he does now. He was never lightning quick or anything, but he's pretty unwatchable now.
razazteca Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 Where are my fav luchadores? Where are Ultimo Guerrero, Rey Bucannero, Shocker? They better be in the missing bracket of 12-19
the pinjockey Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 I clicked on this topic thinking it was the DVDVR 500 for some reason. Imagine my shock when I saw HHH, Big Show, and RVD that high on the DVDVR list.
Guest ToddRoyal Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 The PWI list always confuses the hell out of me. Most of the time they rate it in kayfabe, with guys like HHH high on the list, but then they throw in a year like 1998, where Dean freakin Malenko is rated #1. It seems as though they change criteria almost annually. They also seem to throw a major Japanese name into the top 5 just for "legitimacy" or something every year, regardless of that person's year. Also, the bottom 50-150 always just seem to be the staff going through indy results and randomly listing the names they find. Oh well, when I was 8...this thing was my bible. *sigh*
Guest The Real Nosferatu Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 Once I reach the #250 I have never heard of 90% of the guys so it's not like I care. lol
Steviekick Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 I clicked on this topic thinking it was the DVDVR 500 for some reason. Imagine my shock when I saw HHH, Big Show, and RVD that high on the DVDVR list. I'd like to see a comparison between the most current DVDVR500 and the PWI 500 just for shits and giggles.
Adam Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 Bah, another list that doesn't mean a lot to me. If we here at the board were to come up with a list it would take forever because we could never agree.
Guest Choken One Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 thats the whole purpose...those fucktards devote all their time to that list
The Ghost of bps21 Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 AJ Styles should have been in the top 10. I've skimmed a couple PWI's lately just to see how they cover TNA...and I was surprised to see that they treat it as bigger than I thought. Styles really should have been in the top 10 if RVD is going to sit there after having no good matches, winning no important title, missing 2 ppvs including WrestleMAnia AND getting less over in the past year. And RVD's my favorite wrestler! Anyway... did Jarrett make the top 50? He's the only one to do so every year that the list has existed...so every year I'm curious to see if the streak continues.
Guest Jay Z. Hollywood Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 Also, the bottom 50-150 always just seem to be the staff going through indy results and randomly listing the names they find. That's basically what they do-which is why you see major CZW/IWA names like Sonjay Dutt and Jimmy Jacobs ranked behind guys like EC Negro. Although I have heard that the wrestlers themselves sometimes send in little write-ups to try and get their name in there.
Guest netslob Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 shit, most of the time they just reprint the same write-up from the year before, verbatim. two-bit hacks.
Guest bort Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 mr ohh la la wrestlers for ECWA, ive never seen him wrestle before but PWI seems big on him as he gets mentioned once every few issues
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