Guest Doyo Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Rolling Stone asked musicians, critics, historians and key industry figures to rank their 50 favorites. The 273 participants included Beck, U2's The Edge, Jackson Browne, Art Garfunkel, Missy Elliott and members of Red Hot Chili Peppers, Metallica , Linkin Park and The Doors. The Ernst & Young accounting firm devised a point system to weight votes for 1,600 submitted titles. Voters were invited to identify favorites from any period or genre, allowing a smattering of country (Johnny Cash , jazz (Miles Davis) and seminal blues (Howlin' Wolf). The list also accommodates greatest hits collections and live recordings; four James Brown picks include two sets of hits and Live at the Apollo (1963) . Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, Hank Williams , The Drifters and Loretta Lynn, who flourished during the era of 45s, are represented only by hits compilations. "Artists whose best works were singles are not going to be well represented," Levy notes. For example, he adds, "Disco is under-represented because it's a singles-driven genre." 1. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, The Beatles 2. Pet Sounds, The Beach Boys 3. Revolver, The Beatles 4. Highway 61 Revisited, Bob Dylan 5. Rubber Soul, The Beatles 6. What's Going On, Marvin Gaye 7. Exile on Main Street, The Rolling Stones 8. London Calling, The Clash 9. Blonde on Blonde, Bob Dylan 10. The Beatles ("The White Album"), The Beatles 11. The Sun Sessions, Elvis Presley 12. Kind of Blue, Miles Davis 13. Velvet Underground and Nico, The Velvet Underground 14. Abbey Road, The Beatles 15. Are You Experienced?, The Jimi Hendrix Experience 16. Blood on the Tracks, Bob Dylan 17. Nevermind, Nirvana 18. Born to Run, Bruce Springsteen 19. Astral Weeks, Van Morrison 20. Thriller, Michael Jackson 21. The Great Twenty-Eight, Chuck Berry 22. Plastic Ono Band, John Lennon 23. Innervisions, Stevie Wonder 24. Live at the Apollo (1963), James Brown 25. Rumours, Fleetwood Mac 26. The Joshua Tree, U2 27. King of the Delta Blues Singers, Vol. 1, Robert Johnson 28. Who's Next, The Who 29. Led Zeppelin, Led Zeppelin 30. Blue, Joni Mitchell 31. Bringing It All Back Home, Bob Dylan 32. Let It Bleed, The Rolling Stones 33. Ramones, Ramones 34. Music From Big Pink, The Band 35. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars, David Bowie 36. Tapestry, Carole King 37. Hotel California, The Eagles 38. The Anthology, 1947 - 1972, Muddy Waters 39. Please Please Me, The Beatles 40. Forever Changes, Love 41. Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols, The Sex Pistols 42. The Doors, The Doors 43. The Dark Side of the Moon, Pink Floyd 44. Horses, Patti Smith 45. The Band, The Band 46. Legend, Bob Marley and the Wailers 47. A Love Supreme, John Coltrane 48. It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back, Public Enemy 49. At Fillmore East, The Allman Brothers Band 50. Here's Little Richard, Little Richard 51. Bridge Over Troubled Waters, Simon and Garfunkel 52. Greatest Hits, Al Green 53. The Birth of Soul: The Complete Atlantic Rhythm and Blues Recordings, 1952 - 1959, Ray Charles 54. Electric Ladyland, The Jimi Hendrix Experience 55. Elvis Presley, Elvis Presley 56. Songs in the Key of Life, Stevie Wonder 57. Beggars Banquet, The Rolling Stones 58. Trout Mask Replica, Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band 59. Meet the Beatles, The Beatles 60. Greatest Hits, Sly and the Family Stone 61. Appetite for Destruction, Guns n' Roses 62. Achtung Baby, U2 63. Sticky Fingers, The Rolling Stones 64. Phil Spector, Back to Mono (1958 - 1969), Various Artists 65. Moondance, Van Morrison 66. Led Zeppelin IV, Led Zeppelin 67. The Stranger, Billy Joel 68. Off the Wall, Michael Jackson 69. Superfly, Curtis Mayfield 70. Physical Graffiti, Led Zeppelin 71. After the Gold Rush, Neil Young 72. Purple Rain, Prince 73. Back in Black, AC/DC 74. Otis Blue, Otis Redding 75. Led Zeppelin II, Led Zeppelin 76. Imagine, John Lennon 77. The Clash, The Clash 78. Harvest, Neil Young 79. Star Time, James Brown 80. Odessey and Oracle, The Zombies 81. Graceland, Paul Simon 82. Axis: Bold as Love, The Jimi Hendrix Experience 83. I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You, Aretha Franklin 84. Lady Soul, Aretha Franklin 85. Born in the U.S.A., Bruce Springsteen 86. Let It Be, The Beatles 87. The Wall, Pink Floyd 88. At Folsom Prison, Johnny Cash 89. Dusty in Memphis, Dusty Springfield 90. Talking Book, Stevie Wonder 91. Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, Elton John 92. 20 Golden Greats, Buddy Holly 93. Sign 'o' the Times, Prince 94. Bitches Brew, Miles Davis 95. Green River, Creedence Clearwater Revival 96. Tommy, The Who 97. The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, Bob Dylan 98. This Year's Model, Elvis Costello 99. There's a Riot Goin' On, Sly and the Family Stone 100. In the Wee Small Hours, Frank Sinatra 101. Fresh Cream, Cream 102. Giant Steps, John Coltrane 103. Sweet Baby James, James Taylor 104. Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music, Ray Charles 105. Rocket to Russia, Ramones 106. Portrait of a Legend 1951 - 1964, Sam Cooke 107. Hunky Dory, David Bowie 108. Aftermath, The Rolling Stones 109. Loaded, The Velvet Underground 110. The Bends, Radiohead 111. Court and Spark, Joni Mitchell 112. Disraeli Gears, Cream 113. The Who Sell Out, The Who 114. Out of Our Heads, The Rolling Stones 115. Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs, Derek and the Dominos 116. At Last, Etta James 117. Sweetheart of the Rodeo, The Byrds 118. Stand!, Sly and the Family Stone 119. The Harder They Come Original Soundtrack, Various Artists 120. Raising Hell, Run-DMC 121. Moby Grape, Moby Grape 122. Pearl, Janis Joplin 123. Catch a Fire, Bob Marley and the Wailers 124. Younger Than Yesterday, The Byrds 125. Raw Power, The Stooges 126. Remain in Light, Talking Heads 127. If You Can Believe Your Eyes and Ears, The Mamas and the Papas 128. Marquee Moon, Television 129. 40 Greatest Hits, Hank Williams 130. Paranoid, Black Sabbath 131. Saturday Night Fever Original Soundtrack, Various Artists 132. The Wild, the Innocent and the E Street Shuffle, Bruce Springsteen 133. Ready to Die, The Notorious B.I.G. 134. Slanted and Enchanted, Pavement 135. Greatest Hits, Elton John 136. Tim, The Replacements 137. The Chronic, Dr. Dre 138. Rejuvenation, The Meters 139. All That You Can't Leave Behind, U2 140. Parallel Lines, Blondie 141. Live at the Regal, B.B. King 142. Phil Spector, A Christmas Gift for You, Various Artists 143. Gris-Gris, Dr. John 144. Straight Outta Compton, N.W.A 145. Aja, Steely Dan 146. Surrealistic Pillow, Jefferson Airplane 147. Dreams to Remember: The Otis Redding Anthology, Otis Redding 148. Deja Vu, Crosby Stills Nash and Young 149. Houses of the Holy, Led Zeppelin 150. Santana, Santana 151. Darkness on the Edge of Town, Bruce Springsteen 152. The B-52's, The B-52's 153. Moanin' in the Moonlight, Howlin' Wolf 154. The Low End Theory, A Tribe Called Quest 155. Pretenders, The Pretenders 156. Paul's Boutique, Beastie Boys 157. Closer, Joy Division 158. Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy, Elton John 159. Alive, Kiss 160. Electric Warrior, T. Rex 161. The Dock of the Bay, Otis Redding 162. OK Computer, Radiohead 163. 1999, Prince 164. Heart Like a Wheel, Linda Ronstadt 165. Let's Get It On, Marvin Gaye 166. Imperial Bedroom, Elvis Costello 167. Master of Puppets, Metallica 168. My Aim Is True, Elvis Costello 169. Exodus, Bob Marley 170. Live at Leeds, The Who 171. The Notorious Byrd Brothers, The Byrds 172. Every Picture Tells a Story, Rod Stewart 173. Something/Anything?, Todd Rundgren 174. Desire, Bob Dylan 175. Close to You, The Carpenters 176. Rocks, Aerosmith 177. One Nation Under a Groove, Parliament/Funkadelic 178. Greatest Hits, The Byrds 179. The Anthology 1961 - 1977, Curtis Mayfield and the Impressions 180. The Definitive Collection, Abba 181. The Rolling Stones, Now!, The Rolling Stones 182. Natty Dread, Bob Marley and the Wailers 183. Fleetwood Mac, Fleetwood Mac 184. Red Headed Stranger, Willie Nelson 185. The Stooges, The Stooges 186. Fresh, Sly and the Family Stone 187. So, Peter Gabriel 188. Buffalo Springfield Again, Buffalo Springfield 189. Happy Trails, Quicksilver Messenger Service 190. From Elvis in Memphis, Elvis Presley 191. Funhouse, The Stooges 192. The Gilded Palace of Sin, The Flying Burrito Brothers 193. Dookie, Green Day 194. Transformer, Lou Reed 195. Bluesbreakers, John Mayall With Eric Clapton 196. Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the First Psychedelic Era 1965 - 1968, Various Artists 197. Murmur, R.E.M. 198. The Best of, Little Walter 199. Highway to Hell, AC/DC 200. The Downward Spiral, Nine Inch Nails 201. Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme, Simon and Garfunkel 202. Bad, Michael Jackson 203. Wheels of Fire, Cream 204. Dirty Mind, Prince 205. Abraxas, Santana 206. Tea for the Tillerman, Cat Stevens 207. Ten, Pearl Jam 208. Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere, Neil Young With Crazy Horse 209. Wish You Were Here, Pink Floyd 210. Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain, Pavement 211. Tattoo You, The Rolling Stones 212. Proud Mary: The Best of Ike and Tina Turner, Ike and Tina Turner 213. New York Dolls, New York Dolls 214. Bo Diddley/Go Bo Diddley, Bo Diddley 215. Two Steps From the Blues, Bobby Bland 216. The Queen Is Dead, The Smiths 217. Licensed to Ill, Beastie Boys 218. Look-Ka Py Py, The Meters 219. Loveless, My Bloody Valentine 220. New Orleans Piano, Professor Longhair 221. War, U2 222. The Neil Diamond Collection, Neil Diamond 223. Howlin' Wolf, Howlin' Wolf 224. Nebraska, Bruce Springsteen 225. The Complete Hank Williams, Hank Williams 226. Doolittle, Pixies 227. Paid in Full, Eric B. and Rakim 228. Toys in the Attic, Aerosmith 229. Nick of Time, Bonnie Raitt 230. A Night at the Opera, Queen 231. The Kink Kronikles, The Kinks 232. Mr. Tambourine Man, The Byrds 233. Bookends, Simon and Garfunkel 234. The Ultimate Collection, Patsy Cline 235. Mr. Excitement!, Jackie Wilson 236. The Who Sings My Generation, The Who 237. Like a Prayer, Madonna 238. Can't Buy a Thrill, Steely Dan 239. Let It Be, The Replacements 240. Run-DMC, Run-DMC 241. Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath 242. The Jerry Lee Lewis Anthology: All Killer No Filler!, Jerry Lee Lewis 243. Freak Out!, The Mothers of Invention 244. Live Dead, Grateful Dead 245. Bryter Layter, Nick Drake 246. The Shape of Jazz to Come, Ornette Coleman Automatic for the People, R.E.M. 248. Reasonable Doubt, Jay-Z 249. Low, David Bowie 250. The River, Bruce Springsteen 251. The Otis Redding Dictionary of Soul, Otis Redding 252. Metallica, Metallica 253. Trans-Europe Express, Kraftwerk 254. Whitney Houston, Whitney Houston 255. The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society, The Kinks 256. The Velvet Rope, Janet Jackson 257. Stardust, Willie Nelson 258. American Beauty, Grateful Dead 259. Crosby Stills and Nash, Crosby Stills and Nash 260. Buena Vista Social Club , Buena Vista Social Club 261. Tracy Chapman, Tracy Chapman 262. Workingman's Dead, Grateful Dead 263. The Genius of Ray Charles, Ray Charles 264. Child Is Father to the Man, Blood, Sweat and Tears 265. Cosmo's Factory, Creedence Clearwater Revival 266. Quadrophenia, The Who 267. There Goes Rhymin' Simon, Paul Simon 268. Psycho Candy, The Jesus and Mary Chain 269. Some Girls, The Rolling Stones 270. The Beach Boys Today!, The Beach Boys 271. Going to a Go-Go, Smokey Robinson and the Miracles 272. Nightbirds, Labelle 273. The Slim Shady LP, Eminem 274. Mothership Connection, Parliament 275. Rhythm Nation 1814, Janet Jackson 276. Anthology of American Folk Music, Harry Smith, ed. 277. Aladdin Sane, David Bowie 278. The Immaculate Collection, Madonna 279. My Life, Mary J. Blige 280. Folk Singer, Muddy Waters 281. Can't Get Enough, Barry White 282. The Cars, The Cars 283. Five Leaves Left, Nick Drake 284. Music of My Mind, Stevie Wonder 285. I'm Still in Love With You, Al Green 286. Los Angeles, X 287. Anthem of the Sun, Grateful Dead 288. Something Else by the Kinks, The Kinks 289. Call Me, Al Green 290. Talking Heads: 77, Talking Heads 291. The Basement Tapes, Bob Dylan and the Band 292. White Light / White Heat, The Velvet Underground 293. Greatest Hits, Simon and Garfunkel 294. Kick Out the Jams, MC5 295. Meat Is Murder, The Smiths 296. We're Only In It For the Money, The Mothers of Invention 297. Weezer (Blue Album), Weezer 298. Master of Reality, Black Sabbath 299. Coat of Many Colors, Dolly Parton 300. Fear of a Black Planet, Public Enemy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Doyo Report post Posted November 20, 2003 301. John Wesley Harding, Bob Dylan 302. The Marshall Mathers LP, Eminem 303. Grace, Jeff Buckley 304. Car Wheels on a Gravel Road, Lucinda Williams 305. Odelay, Beck 306. Songs for Swingin' Lovers, Frank Sinatra 307. Avalon, Roxy Music 308. The Sun Records Collection, Various Artists 309. Nothing's Shocking, Jane's Addiction 310. BloodSugarSexMagik, Red Hot Chili Peppers 311. MTV Unplugged in New York, Nirvana 312. The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, Lauryn Hill 313. Damn the Torpedoes, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers 314. The Velvet Underground, The Velvet Underground 315. Surfer Rosa, Pixies 316. Rock Steady, No Doubt 317. The Eminem Show, Eminem 318. Back Stabbers, The O'Jays 319. Burnin', Bob Marley and the Wailers 320. Pink Moon, Nick Drake 321. Sail Away, Randy Newman 322. Ghost in the Machine, The Police 323. Station to Station, David Bowie 324. The Very Best of Linda Ronstadt, Linda Ronstadt 325. Slowhand, Eric Clapton 326. Disintegration, The Cure 327. Jagged Little Pill, Alanis Morissette 328. Exile in Guyville, Liz Phair 329. Daydream Nation, Sonic Youth 330. In the Jungle Groove, James Brown 331. Tonight's the Night, Neil Young 332. Help!, The Beatles 333. Shoot Out the Lights, Richard and Linda Thompson 334. Wild Gift, X 335. Squeezing Out Sparks, Graham Parker 336. Superunknown, Soundgarden 337. Aqualung, Jethro Tull 338. Cheap Thrills, Big Brother and the Holding Company 339. The Heart of Saturday Night, Tom Waits 340. Damaged, Black Flag 341. Play, Moby 342. Violator, Depeche Mode 343. Bat Out of Hell, Meat Loaf 344. Berlin, Lou Reed 345. Stop Making Sense, Talking Heads 346. 3 Feet High and Rising, De La Soul 347. The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, Pink Floyd 348. At Newport 1960, Muddy Waters 349. Roger the Engineer (a.k.a. Over Under Sideways Down), The Yardbirds 350. Rust Never Sleeps, Neil Young and Crazy Horse 351. Brothers in Arms, Dire Straits 352. 52nd Street, Billy Joel 353. Having a Rave Up With the Yardbirds, The Yardbirds 354. 12 Songs, Randy Newman 355. Between the Buttons, The Rolling Stones 356. Sketches of Spain, Miles Davis 357. Honky Chateau, Elton John 358. Singles Going Steady, Buzzcocks 359. Stankonia, Outkast 360. Siamese Dream, The Smashing Pumpkins 361. Substance, New Order 362. L.A. Woman, The Doors 363. Ray of Light, Madonna 364. American Recordings, Johnny Cash 365. Louder Than Bombs, The Smiths 366. Mott, Mott the Hoople 367. Is This It, The Strokes 368. Rage Against the Machine, Rage Against the Machine 369. Reggatta de Blanc, The Police 370. Volunteers, Jefferson Airplane 371. Siren, Roxy Music 372. Late for the Sky, Jackson Browne 373. Post, Bjork 374. The Eagles, The Eagles 375. The Ultimate Collection (1948 - 1990), John Lee Hooker 376. (What's the Story) Morning Glory?, Oasis 377. CrazySexyCool, TLC 378. Funky Kingston, Toots and the Maytals 379. Greetings from Asbury Park, Bruce Springsteen 380. Sunflower, The Beach Boys 381. Modern Lovers, Modern Lovers 382. More Songs About Buildings and Food, Talking Heads 383. A Quick One (Happy Jack), The Who 384. Pyromania, Def Leppard 385. Pretzel Logic, Steely Dan 386. Enter the Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers, Wu-Tang Clan 387. Country Life, Roxy Music 388. A Hard Day's Night, The Beatles 389. The End of the Innocence, Don Henley 390. Elephant, The White Stripes 391. The Pretender, Jackson Browne 392. Willy and the Poor Boys, Creedence Clearwater Revival 393. Good Old Boys, Randy Newman 394. For Your Pleasure, Roxy Music 395. Blue Lines, Massive Attack 396. Eliminator, ZZ Top 397. Rain Dogs, Tom Waits 398. Anthology, The Temptations 399. Californication, Red Hot Chili Peppers 400. Illmatic, Nas 401. (Pronounced Leh-Nerd Skin-Nerd), Lynyrd Skynyrd 402. Dr. John's Gumbo, Dr. John 403. Radio City, Big Star 404. Sandinista!, The Clash 405. Rid of Me, PJ Harvey 406. I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got, Sinead O' Connor 407. Strange Days, The Doors 408. Time Out of Mind, Bob Dylan 409. 461 Ocean Boulevard, Eric Clapton 410. Pink Flag, Wire 411. Double Nickels on the Dime, Minutemen 412. Mezzanine, Massive Attack 413. Beauty and the Beat, Go-Go's 414. Greatest Hits, James Brown 415. Van Halen , Van Halen 416. Mule Variations, Tom Waits 417. Boy, U2 418. Band on the Run, Wings 419. Dummy, Portishead 420. With the Beatles, The Beatles 421. The "Chirping" Crickets, Buddy Holly and the Crickets 422. The Best of the Girl Groups, Volumes 1 and 2 , Various Artists 423. Greatest Hits, The Mamas and the Papas 424. King of the Delta Blues Singers, Vol. 2, Robert Johnson 425. Changesone, David Bowie 426. The Battle of Los Angeles, Rage Against the Machine 427. Presenting the Fabulous Ronettes Featuring Veronica, The Ronettes 428. Kid A, Radiohead 429. Grievous Angel, Gram Parsons 430. At Budokan, Cheap Trick 431. Anthology, Diana Ross and the Supremes 432. Sleepless, Peter Wolf 433. Another Green World, Brian Eno 434. Outlandos D'Amour, The Police 435. To Bring You My Love, PJ Harvey 436. Here Come the Warm Jets, Brian Eno 437. All Things Must Pass, George Harrison 438. #1 Record, Big Star 439. In Utero, Nirvana 440. Sea Change, Beck 441. Tragic Kingdom, No Doubt 442. Boys Don't Cry, The Cure 443. Live at the Harlem Square Club, 1963, Sam Cooke 444. Criminal Minded, Boogie Down Productions 445. Rum Sodomy and the Lash, The Pogues 446. Suicide, Suicide 447. Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!, Devo 448. In Color, Cheap Trick 449. The World Is a Ghetto, War 450. Fly Like an Eagle, Steve Miller Band 451. Back in the USA, MC5 452. Music, Madonna 453. Ritual de lo Habitual, Jane's Addiction 454. Getz/Gilberto, Stan Getz and Joao Gilberto Featuring Antonio Carlos Jobim 455. Synchronicity, The Police 456. Third/Sister Lovers, Big Star 457. For Everyman, Jackson Browne 458. John Prine, John Prine 459. Strictly Business, EPMD 460. Love It to Death, Alice Cooper 461. How Will the Wolf Survive?, Los Lobos 462. Here, My Dear, Marvin Gaye 463. Tumbleweed Connection, Elton John 464. The Blueprint, Jay-Z 465. Golden Hits, The Drifters 466. Live Through This, Hole 467. Love and Theft, Bob Dylan 468. Elton John, Elton John 469. Metal Box, Public Image Ltd. 470. Document, R.E.M. 471. Heaven Up Here, Echo and the Bunnymen 472. Hysteria, Def Leppard 473. A Rush of Blood to the Head, Coldplay 474. Live in Europe, Otis Redding 475. Tunnel of Love, Bruce Springsteen 476. The Paul Butterfield Blues Band, The Paul Butterfield Blues Band 477. The Score, Fugees 478. Radio, LL Cool J 479. I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight, Richard and Linda Thompson 480. Faith, George Michael 481. The Smiths, The Smiths 482. Armed Forces, Elvis Costello and the Attractions 483. Life After Death, The Notorious B.I.G. 484. Branded Man, Merle Haggard 485. All Time Greatest Hits, Loretta Lynn 486. Maggot Brain, Funkadelic 487. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, The Smashing Pumpkins 488. Voodoo, D'Angelo 489. Guitar Town, Steve Earle 490. Entertainment!, Gang of Four 491. All the Young Dudes, Mott the Hoople 492. Vitalogy, Pearl Jam 493. That's the Way of the World, Earth, Wind and Fire 494. She's So Unusual, Cyndi Lauper 495. New Day Rising, Husker Du 496. Destroyer, Kiss 497. Yo! Bum Rush the Show, Public Enemy 498. Tres Hombres, ZZ Top 499. Born Under a Bad Sign, Albert King 500. Touch, Eurythmics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 BULLSHIT LIST Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lomasmoney 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 any true michael jackson fan would have to say off the wall is better than thriller Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted November 20, 2003 I see no problems with the list...tis a fine list Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 I'm pretty fine with the top 25 part of the list, but there's no way in fucking hell that the Clash should be #8. I hate the fact that as soon as someone in a band (especially the frontperson) dies that they are suddenly immortalized and given much more credit than they honestly deserve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Doyo Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Overlooked - Midnight Oil, Faith No More, King's X, Dream Theater, Iron Maiden, Queensryche. These lists are always pretty much against anything metal-related. No Slayer or Ozzy on here either. They consider metal too cheesy, but stuff like George Michael, TLC and Cyndi Lauper make it on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 I'm pretty fine with the top 25 part of the list, but there's no way in fucking hell that the Clash should be #8. I hate the fact that as soon as someone in a band (especially the frontperson) dies that they are suddenly immortalized and given much more credit than they honestly deserve. London Calling has been regarded as one of the greatest albums of all time for a long time - way before Joe Strummer kicked it. From where I sit, perhaps only Exile on Main St. manages to be as good as long and as consistently as London Calling. My personal issue with the list was a lack of rap and 1990's music...until I hit about number 300, where they seriously flood in most of the major highlights. There are some really weird choices for ranking works by a particular artist (U2's latest album higher than War? Riiight...), but you know, it's mostly good. The whole numbering thing is lame though, once you get outside the first stream of albums. What makes 484 that much better than 483? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrestlingDeacon 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Greatest hits albums are for housewive and little girls. They shouldn't be on the list. And I agree with Edwin. After about the first fifty or so it's hard to start quibbling numbers and placement. An argument can be made for each album on there that they're at least notable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Doyo Report post Posted November 20, 2003 My personal issue with the list was a lack of rap and 1990's music...until I hit about number 300, where they seriously flood in most of the major highlights. I count 13 rap albums in the top 300. Pretty good for a relatively new form of music and a much better showing than heavy metal got. People on another board I was looking at were complaining about there being too much rap on here. And what about country music? That has been around for years and there is little on the list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Where's RIVER RUNS RED? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godthedog 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 and rolling stone takes a cue from the death valley driver crew. DEAN would be so proud. while as a fan it's nice to see the beatles annihilate everybody else on the list, it reeks of blatantly obvious rigging: "now, everyone knows the beatles are the best band ever, so we need to put as many of their albums in the top 100 as possible." would anyone in their right mind argue 39. Please Please Me, The Beatles is better than 54. Electric Ladyland, The Jimi Hendrix Experience? also, i'm surprised that 'sgt pepper' is still number one. 'revolver' has replaced it in almost every major modern list i've seen, & i haven't heard anyone in the last 5 years say that 'pepper' is their favorite record. the lack of newer stuff on the list is disconcerting. looks like the most recent album to crack the top 50 is 'nevermind' (puke), and the highest-ranking work from the last 10 years appears to be 'the bends' at 110. bitching like that aside, it really is a pretty good list. 303. Grace, Jeff Buckley this especially makes me proud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 500 is way too much. I stopped caring after 50. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B. Brian Brunzell 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 London Calling has been regarded as one of the greatest albums of all time for a long time - way before Joe Strummer kicked it. From where I sit, perhaps only Exile on Main St. manages to be as good as long and as consistently as London Calling. Thank you, Edwin. I was very pleased to see The Low End Theory as high as it is. It's one of, if not the best Hip-Hop album of all-time. illadelph haliflife is VERY high on the best Hip-Hop albums ever as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Doyo Report post Posted November 20, 2003 and rolling stone takes a cue from the death valley driver crew. DEAN would be so proud. actually, the dvd crew got the idea from the PWI 500, but don't tell anybody 303. Grace, Jeff Buckley this especially makes me proud. Yeah that is a good album. It made around number 70 on the VH1 top album list. Newer stuff needs to age a while before people really appreciate it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godthedog 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Newer stuff needs to age a while before people really appreciate it. i don't really buy that. i think that over time, certain albums become institutions while others don't, and there's none of that with the newer stuff yet: nobody really knows what the next 'sgt pepper' will be, so people just pick recent stuff that they really love and just not worry about it. i'm sure the people polled all do put newer stuff on their favorites lists, they just tend to all pick different newer stuff. 10 people put jeff buckley on their list, 10 people put outkast on their list, 10 people put TLC on their list; and all 30 of those people have the stones on their list, just cause the older albums are more rigidly defined as "classic." the lower 250 are quickly getting much more interesting to look at, at least for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fire and Knives Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Fuck Sgt. Pepper and his stupid little band. Miles Davis smokes him. K. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5_moves_of_doom 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 (edited) I'm pretty fine with the top 25 part of the list, but there's no way in fucking hell that the Clash should be #8. I hate the fact that as soon as someone in a band (especially the frontperson) dies that they are suddenly immortalized and given much more credit than they honestly deserve. "London Calling's" been on just about everyone's top 30 list in the music industry since... like, 1990, dude. Joe Strummer's death may have made people give him more credit than he deserved for that last album of his, but London Calling and the self-titled album have been favorites since their release. Perhaps they ARE overrated to some, but in this case, it's not a "they only like that 'cuz the one guy's dead" thing. EDIT: Right, Edwin beat me to it. Fucker. EDIT ONCE AGAIN: Is there anywhere that we can see individual artist's Top 50 lists? I'm interested in Beck's. Heh. Edited November 20, 2003 by 5_moves_of_doom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Is this based only on enjoyment of the record, or did the albums influence factor into the voting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 At least "It takes a Nation of Millions" is the highest-ranked rap album and not Ja Rule or someone recent. Thought "Ready to Die" was over-rated (OMG Racist!), but whatever -- it's a goofy list. At least the Tribe and EPMD represent. I'm waiting for the list rating EVERY song/album/whatever of ALL-TIME, and it keeps growing whenever new material comes out... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 (edited) 17. Nevermind, Nirvana -Fuck Kurt Cobain in his dead overrated ass. I really liked the album, but since this asshole killed himself it's given way more credit then it deserves. 65. Moondance, Van Morrison -Love this album. I would have put it way way higher 133. Ready to Die, The Notorious B.I.G. -Another case of dead=legend. I have a hard time believing that this is better then any single rock album put out within the last 10 years or so. 193. Dookie, Green Day -Other then a couple Radiohead's this is the first real modern rock one. I love the album, but I didn't think they'd put it on. 197. Murmur, R.E.M. -This is top 20 for me. Great great album 207. Ten, Pearl Jam -If Eddie had blown his brains out this would be #17 and Nevermind would be #207 305. Odelay, Beck -Very very overrated 367. Is This It, The Strokes -Oh fuck the Strokes 368. Rage Against the Machine, Rage Against the Machine -Oh fuck them too 390. Elephant, The White Stripes -Yep, them too...although I like some of their stuff 470. Document, R.E.M. -I'd put Reckoning ahead of this 500 best albums and no Donovan or Warren Zevon...oh fuck you Rolling Stone Edited November 20, 2003 by Youth N Asia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Sabbath was placed criminally low. Nevermind needs to be tied to a fencepost and forgotten about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 I wipe my ass with this list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 No Alice In Chains No Tool No Iron Maiden yet best of albums are up there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Holy fuck, there isn't any Tool or AiC on there. How did I not notice that? At least they picked a good Zappa album to represent him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B. Brian Brunzell 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Joe Strummer's death may have made people give him more credit than he deserved for that last album of his, but London Calling and the self-titled album have been favorites since their release. Perhaps they ARE overrated to some, but in this case, it's not a "they only like that 'cuz the one guy's dead" thing. Streetcore is a good album. It's not as good as Global a Go-Go, but it's still great. His death didn't help it out, as his guitarists had to finish the musical parts, but I haven't really read any reviews praising the album or calling it the best ever. The reviews I've read call it the 3rd best Mescalaros album. I think it's the 2nd best, but I'm no critic, what do I know? And no, The Clash aren't overrated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 No way should <random numbered album #1> been ahead of <random numbered album #2>! TEH OUTRAGE~! Seriously though, I don't have the attention span necessary to read through this list beyond the first 50 or so. Similar KKK said, they call this the list the "all-time" list, when it should really be the "so-far" list, since new stuff will perpetually come out. As for metal's under-representation on the list, as a huge metal fan, but still an honest man, I've come to accept the fact that metal is and has always been viewed as a niche market. On the other hand, as soon as rap crossed-over from the inner-city (with fans who knew the experiences being rapped about) to rich suburban kids, the mainstream started paying quite a bit more attention (in both good and bad ways) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrestlingDeacon 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 And what about country music? That has been around for years and there is little on the list. Country, even more than the mainstream, has always been more single oriented than album oriented. It was only with the beginning of the outlaw movement in the seventies when you had artists who were not only good songwriters, but also knew how to pick good songs from others; like Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings and Merle Haggard, that you began seeing more cohesive albums. If you notice that only albums from rock legends like Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis and Elvis are essentially greatest hits albums or compilations. The album as we know it really didn't come into being until the lp was produced and the first concept album was Frank Sinatra's "In the Wee Small Hours of the Morning" in 1955. Which is 100 on the above list and would certainly be in my top five, maybe number one. It kind of brings into question what an album really is. Is just a collection of songs good enough to be on a list of the best albums of all time or does their need to be some thought and theme behind it in it's construction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BAR Report post Posted November 20, 2003 What a fucking horrible list. Not as bad as the 100 greatest guitarists they did though. There were a few nice surprises: Master of Reality being on there, my favourite Sabbath album. (pronounced leh-nerd ski-nerd) was also a nice surprise. Oh well, why do they bother. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Fuck Sgt. Pepper and his stupid little band. Miles Davis smokes him. K. Agreed. Hendrix smokes the Beatles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
