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The Perfect Pop Song

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Guest Agent of Oblivion
The Beatles were great to begin with but everything from Velvet Revolver onwards is just fucking brilliant and only gets better.

 

Better than the Nick Cave/Pet Shop Boys incident.

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Some people hated it (it was overplayed in the UK) but 'Wake Up Boo!' by The Boo Radleys was a perfect single. Direct and catchy but with a slightly deeper undercurrent running through it. Slightly underrated band actually. Other great pop singles like 'Common People' & 'Sparky's Dream' were around at the same kind of time. Blur were kind of like The Jam in this period, endless great singles but no definitively great album.

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A good pop song either needs a good video(post 81), a catchy Good boybad pop is "Step by Step" by NKOTB or "If It Isn't Love" by New Edition.

"Candy Girl" > "If it Isn't Love"

 

Someone mentioned Janet's mid-late 80s stuff earlier, and if I were to nominate anything, it'd have to be "Pleasure Principle."

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'bad' > 'thriller'.

 

'bad' has a harder overall sound with more sharpness, and the songs tend to be more solid (not that its best stuff trumps 'thriller's best stuff, but its weakest moments are waaaaaaaaay better than "the girl is mine). 'thriller's cup runneth over with that soft syrupy almost-disco-but-sort-of-pop sound that permeates through even the hardest tracks, and just has not aged well. especially on "baby be mine" and the like. the keyboards are just too soft and cheesy.

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The Beatles were great to begin with but everything from Velvet Revolver onwards is just fucking brilliant and only gets better.

 

Better than the Nick Cave/Pet Shop Boys incident.

I was about to let this thread be until I saw this.

 

I WAS TYPING AS QUICKLY AS I COULD TO MAKE A POINT AND DIDN'T THINK BEFORE TYPING OKAY

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Guest Agent of Oblivion
The Beatles were great to begin with but everything from Velvet Revolver onwards is just fucking brilliant and only gets better.

 

Better than the Nick Cave/Pet Shop Boys incident.

I was about to let this thread be until I saw this.

 

I WAS TYPING AS QUICKLY AS I COULD TO MAKE A POINT AND DIDN'T THINK BEFORE TYPING OKAY

It's ok now, Spoon. Croweater's Beatles: Velvet Revolver is the new nadir.

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Guest Agent of Oblivion

Someone should find that thread..I don't even remotely remember what it was called..

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Michael Jackson sucks.

Take that back.

I didn’t actually mean that. I just wanted to see if UYI’s head would explode, but he took it very well. Kinda disappointing.

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Guest TheZsaszHorsemen
Are you this retarded in the wrestling folders, too?

 

As has been discussed, pop music doesn't have to be all over MTV. It describes a certain sound; melody, hooks and the like play a part.

That wasn't a flame, but seriously...

 

"Pop" music should be popular to some degree.

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That wasn't a flame, but seriously...

I'm aware of that. Doesn't make you any less ignorant.

 

"Pop" music should be popular to some degree.

 

If you want to argue semantics, everything is popular to some degree. But that's not the point. As has been repeatedly been discussed in this thread, "pop music" is an ever-evolving, widely-encompassing term. It doesn't have to be on the radio, but that certainly is a predominant aspect of it.

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Guest croweater
I know this isn't the fault of the song, but Hey Ya became too overplayed for it to be in contention for me.

 

The Way You Make Me Feel is Jackson's best song (speaking of which, what about Janet? Her late 80s/mid 90s stuff is awesome).

 

And later Beatles are so much better than early Beatles. There's no debate needed over that. If you believe differently, you are a twit. That's right, a pregnant goldfish (did you know a pregnant goldfish was called a twit?)

Oh, I agree 10000000000% (and that's a lot of percents) about the later Beatles being MUCH better than the earlier stuff. I was just talking about it in relation to my definition of "pop" music.

 

The Beatles were great to begin with but everything from Velvet Revolver onwards is just fucking brilliant and only gets better.

I am such an idiot.

 

I was reading the fucking discography of Revolver when I posted this, I have absolutely no idea why I chucked Velvet infront of it.

 

I won't edit it because I'm such a fucking moron, and it shall remain there to remind me what a fucking moron I am.

 

I swear though, all the Guns and Roses talk on this forum messes with my brain.

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Guest Temet

"She Loves You" - The Beatles. There's a reason why they took off, you know.

 

Perky beat, lyrics that tapped into the culture and core audience/demographic perfectly, harmonies, quick duration.

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