WCW facts, tidbits, and stuff people forgot

[JoeDirt 0]

WCW offered HHH a tag team title run with Steven Regal in early 1995 to try and get him to stay, but Trips jumped to the WWF anyways.

I always find it funny they offer big things to people that are on their way out of the company as they're leaving.

 

For HHH, a tag title run with Regal.

 

For Flair...more money than you could shake a stick at.

 

For Jericho, promise of a bigger push

 

For Benoit, the World title.

For Raven, a promise of a big feud with the Kiss Demon.

[CBright7831 0]

I heard WCW showed footage of the Hart/Michaels match in 99.

 

of course, I thought was WCW was a joke in 99 so I wasn't watching it.

 

Did they blur out any faces or anything like that?

 

How did they obtain the footage?

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Here's what I'm wondering...why, near the last legs of WCW, did Sting get to switch themes from the cool, dark, somber music he was using from Starrcade 97 to "Seek And Destroy"?

 

I believe the explanation was when nWo Hollywood and Wolfpac reformed, Sting was of course betrayed by Nash and Luger getting back with his arch-nemesis Hogan and changed his music with the belief that "there was no more good or evil."

[Slickster 0]

I heard WCW showed footage of the Hart/Michaels match in 99.

 

of course, I thought was WCW was a joke in 99 so I wasn't watching it.

 

Did they blur out any faces or anything like that?

 

How did they obtain the footage?

I don't recall anything like this happening.

[CBright7831 0]

Maybe they didn't then.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Sting used the dark brooding music when he a loner.

 

Once he joined the Wolfpack and became talkative shitty Sting, he used the "Wolfpack" song.

 

When 1999 rolled around, the nWo "Wolfpack" was now made up of heels, with Sting out with an injury.

 

Sting would come back in Spring of 1999. In the fall, he switched to the "Seek & Destroy" Live version when he turned heel, as well as for promotion of the song, which appeared on WCW Mayhem: The Music.

[JoeDirt 0]

Whose idea was Renegade? And out of all the people in the world that could have played the part, why pick THAT piece of crap?

[brighty 0]

Whose idea was Renegade? And out of all the people in the world that could have played the part, why pick THAT piece of crap?

In Flair's book he says that was Hogan's idea cos he wanted an Ultimate Warrior clone so he could get his job 'back' from WrestleMania VI.

[CBright7831 0]

Reading some of these facts are somewhat disturbing.

 

i.e. The Plane crash angle and the riots on WCW Greed.

[CBright7831 0]

Did Paul Heyman send police to get the ECW belt from Mike Awesome?

 

Tommy Dreamer said he did.

 

Did Awesome put up much of a fight?

[CBright7831 0]

Was the plan to put Why didn't WCW job out Jericho on television before he left for the WWF?

Put that down to Eric. He made the call to take Jericho off TV in the last months of his stay. Quite why they didn't bury him on the way out, I don't know.

FWIW, he was jobbed out for the most part from January until April. He would pick up a win here and there against the likes of Saturn and Lizmark Jr but was mostly fodder for guys like Booker T and Scott Steiner.

 

And I believe his last ever loophole was weasling his way back into the US Title Tournament after Steiner eliminated him. There was an injury and Jericho kissed up to President Flair and w/ him was . . . JoJo Dillion himself. Sadly, he lost again to Booker T in the tourney. . . and then lost again in a non-tourney match to Booker T.

He also appeared during the Rick Stiener/Sting match at GAB.

 

Sting slams Steiner into the Internet table.

Chris Jericho is there. Hmm.

 

http://ddtdigest.com/updates/1999062p.htm

[bob_barron 0]

Did Paul Heyman send police to get the ECW belt from Mike Awesome?

 

Tommy Dreamer said he did.

 

Did Awesome put up much of a fight?

It's not like Awesome really had much of a choice.

 

I do know that he was scared shitless about Tazz shooting on him

[JoeDirt 0]

Bret Hart and Chris Benoit are shown briefly on the opening of FOX's "Malcolm in the Middle". Leave it to me to bring the major tidbits.

 

Why did Vader leave WCW in 95?

[MillenniumMan831 0]

Was the plan to put Why didn't WCW job out Jericho on television before he left for the WWF?

Put that down to Eric. He made the call to take Jericho off TV in the last months of his stay. Quite why they didn't bury him on the way out, I don't know.

FWIW, he was jobbed out for the most part from January until April. He would pick up a win here and there against the likes of Saturn and Lizmark Jr but was mostly fodder for guys like Booker T and Scott Steiner.

 

And I believe his last ever loophole was weasling his way back into the US Title Tournament after Steiner eliminated him. There was an injury and Jericho kissed up to President Flair and w/ him was . . . JoJo Dillion himself. Sadly, he lost again to Booker T in the tourney. . . and then lost again in a non-tourney match to Booker T.

He also appeared during the Rick Stiener/Sting match at GAB.

 

Sting slams Steiner into the Internet table.

Chris Jericho is there. Hmm.

 

http://ddtdigest.com/updates/1999062p.htm

Did not know that. I've owned GAB99 for about 3 years or so and I have yet to bother to watch it.

[JHawk 0]

Why did Vader leave WCW in 95?

 

I forget the specifics, but he got into a backstage altercation with Paul Orndorff over something and supposedly lost, then got fired almost immediately despite thinking things had been patched up.

 

And to whoever mentioned Jack Boot: It was a character played by Sgt. Buddy Lee Parker almost exclusively on Saturday Night and Worldwide. Yes, they found a worse character than Buddy Lee Parker for him.

[TheFranchise 0]

Bret Hart and Chris Benoit are shown briefly on the opening of FOX's "Malcolm in the Middle". Leave it to me to bring the major tidbits.

 

Why did Vader leave WCW in 95?

You think that's bad?

 

My friend RANG me to tell me that Bret was in it, when he saw the credits for the first time.

 

Like a fool, I watched the whole episode waiting.

[Precious Roy 0]

Vader was ran out by Hogan and Bischoff, the Orndorff thing was just an excuse, fodder for them to justify dumping him. Vader tells a much different story than the widely believed one in his shoot interview.

 

On Sgt. Craig Pittman, does anyone else remember the angle where some pissed off ex-cadet showed up in WCW to get revenge on his former drill sargent? They had a PPV match, the dude showed up in fatigues, but I can't remember anything else about the guy, or if he even stuck around after that. I think this was late 95 or so, maybe 96, and WCW was still doing a lot of lame shit back then.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

On Sgt. Craig Pittman, does anyone else remember the angle where some pissed off ex-cadet showed up in WCW to get revenge on his former drill sargent?  They had a PPV match, the dude showed up in fatigues, but I can't remember anything else about the guy, or if he even stuck around after that.  I think this was late 95 or so, maybe 96, and WCW was still doing a lot of lame shit back then.

The dude he fueded with was named Cobra.

 

He had morse code for his entrance music.

 

He lasted from 95-the beginning of the nWo, when he was re-packaged as nWo Sting.

 

EDIT: More about him Here

[Guest Loss]

Also, Orndorff beating up Vader was a work purported by WCW to make him look bad if he jumped to the WWF. I think they did have a scuffle, but the story was purposely exaggerated.

[Precious Roy 0]

 

[ChrisMWaters 0]

 

Sad thing is, if they could have, there could have been a classic feud there.

 

Sgt. Slaughter vs. Cobra.

 

It's like the cartoon all over again!

[JHawk 0]

Also, Orndorff beating up Vader was a work purported by WCW to make him look bad if he jumped to the WWF. I think they did have a scuffle, but the story was purposely exaggerated.

Which is why words like "supposedly" work great when trying to recite what happened.

 

Either way, we've established there was some sort of altercation between Vader and Orndorff and, not coincidentally, the one that Hogan didn't like got fired not too long afterward.

[Precious Roy 0]

And why didn't Hogan like Vader? Because he was a percieved threat to his spot, and way over with a WCW crowd that was basically turning on him.

[Use Your Illusion 0]

Much like Nash did with Wrath, only to a lesser extent as Wrath had yet to fully take flight. However, he was catching on huge and who knows what might of became of him had Nash not slaughtered him on Nitro leading up to taking down Goldberg at Starrcade.

 

What a company man he was.

[Special K 0]

In regards to the Vader Orndorff confrontation, I think the concensus was that Vader simply didn't fight back against a half-crippled old man, and Mr. Wonderful surprised him with a few shots.

[Some Guy 0]

If I remeber right, Vader's story is that he was injured and Bischoff started dicking around with him and made him go do promos, when he got there Orndorf was being a prick, Vader had some less than kind words to say in return and Orndorf attacked him and Vader refused to fight back. Meng (Haku) broke it up.

 

Orndorf's story is that he beat the shit out of Vader, who couldn't fight back because Orndorf is so tough.

 

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle as both Vader and Orndorf are known as pretty tough guys.

[JoeDirt 0]

Did Goldberg ever lose any house show matches before they started "the streak" with him?

[Guest Frank_Nabbit]

Did Goldberg ever lose any house show matches before they started "the streak" with him?

He lost to hector gurrero in a dark match and also had Roddy Piper make him his bitch in a supposedly horrible training segment Piper did (I remember liking it) . basically Piper fought 4-6 no names in greco roman wrestling, boxing etc and who ever fought back the best Piper selected for his team to face the NWO at uncensored 97 in the big 12 man 3 way Main event Team Piper vs Team NWO vs Team WCW . The angle bombed so badly they had Flair offer the horseman as replacements to the jobbers.

[Some Guy 0]

The Hector thing is an urban myth. IN his book Goldberg says that he did a job for Chad Fortune of Techno Team 2000 fame at WCW Saturday Night taping in his 2nd or 3rd match, not to Hector. I remember the Piper thing and Goldberg doesn't mention that in his book.

 

For the record I did not buy Goldberg's shitty book. My sister got a free copy after she edited an excerpt that was in Playboy, when she did an internship there. So she gave the her copy for X-Mas one year. The book is horrible shows just how big a mark Goldberg really is for himself and wrestling in general.

[Placebo Effect 0]

Goldberg definitely was in that Roddy Piper segment.

 

And yes, it was fucking stupid, complete with John Tenta randomly appearing if I remember correctly.