notJames 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 I can't believe people are debating whether or not this is a work. They kept the cameras on him. That right there says its a work. They let him talk on the mic instead of cutting it off. That right there says its a work. The 3-headed announce crew completely ignored it. That right there says its a work. And you know what? It worked! And thank you, Vince, for saving this for a New Jersey show, where all great wrestling moments (outside of Canada) occur. (Oh wait, what do you mean RAW isn't over? Oh, it's only the dinosaur portion of the show. I'll just keep the TV turned off until they're extinct again.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 SUPERKICK COMING UP! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 HBK/Hogan is going to SUCK. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not as bad as Hogan/Piper from like 8 years ago..in the cage.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exslade ZX 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 HBK is stealing Randy Orton's gimmick. Bitch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 Piper with a better promo than Shawn Superkick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Quik Report post Posted July 12, 2005 God made him do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 "I did it for the Almighty." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 I know it's not going to happen, but Michaels could REALLY use new music for this gimmick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Quik Report post Posted July 12, 2005 What a lame ending. Why would he be a coward? He kicked the guy in the head on national television. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AfricanAmerican Report post Posted July 12, 2005 HBK: Legend Kicker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 Raw = gigantic steaming pile except for the Matt segment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 "I did dit for Da Rock" is still a better reason than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 HBK is stealing Randy Orton's gimmick. Bitch. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He had his chance and dropped the ball....now its time for Hogan to put over the Heart Break Kid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RadioBurning Report post Posted July 12, 2005 I know it's not going to happen, but Michaels could REALLY use new music for this gimmick. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My thoughts exactly. I was thingking about how ridiculous it would be if it starting playing after the SCM, with the camera on mean-faced Micheals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slickster 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 What a lame ending. Why would he be a coward? He kicked the guy in the head on national television. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Cause he caught him with a cheapshot instead of straight-up challenging him to a match. Compare to the setup for Rock/Hogan (WMX8): Rock asked Hogan point-blank for a match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 What a lame ending. Why would he be a coward? He kicked the guy in the head on national television. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Seriously, HBK's the coward? And how is that different than the 100X Piper attacked Hulk Hogan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exslade ZX 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 HBK is stealing Randy Orton's gimmick. Bitch. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He had his chance and dropped the ball....now its time for Hogan to put over the Heart Break Kid. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey, Legend Killer Orton was over. Just get my ass beat by HHH Orton was not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 Raw = gigantic steaming pile except for the Matt segment. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I thought the opener was alright, Carlito vs Benjamin was good (Im a Honky Tonk Man mark so I like the cowardly heel champ bit), and the Pipers Pit at the end was nothing bad. I couldve done without the foot fetish thing (what was the point?) and I didnt watch the diva segment. The Matt angle is classic. Good Raw and, for the first time in years, made me want to watch next week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slickster 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 I know it's not going to happen, but Michaels could REALLY use new music for this gimmick. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My thoughts exactly. I was thingking about how ridiculous it would be if it starting playing after the SCM, with the camera on mean-faced Micheals. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, I was disappointed he didn't get a new song. I think maybe a superslow remix in the vein of The Rock's remix (when he returned in 2003) would work. It's odd when you consider that (DX theme aside) HBK has had the same basic entrance music since 1992. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boon 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 "I did dit for Da Rock" is still a better reason than that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh man, that shit was great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 What a lame ending. Why would he be a coward? He kicked the guy in the head on national television. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Cause he caught him with a cheapshot instead of straight-up challenging him to a match. Compare to the setup for Rock/Hogan (WMX8): Rock asked Hogan point-blank for a match. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Except Piper was talking about WHY Shawn attacked Hogan, not HOW he attacked Hogan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Open the Muggy Gate 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 Matt Fucking Hardy stole Roddy Piper and HBK's thunder. Take a drink. I had to watch that on my tape again to see all that... that was so fucking unbelievable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 HBK is stealing Randy Orton's gimmick. Bitch. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He had his chance and dropped the ball....now its time for Hogan to put over the Heart Break Kid. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey, Legend Killer Orton was over. Just get my ass beat by HHH Orton was not. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> All of those trips to the medical facility did not help Orton any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
res37618 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 Hogan/HBK will most likely be like Hogan/Rock - the match itself will probably not be that great, but it'll be passable and be enough of a "memorable moment" that we'll turn into marks for 15 minutes or so. Hogan wins, fades out for just a little while, until Austin challenges him for WrestleMania 22. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 Good: MATT FUCKING HARDY! Also, I dug Piper's Pit, or at least Piper. Also, this weeks Angle Invitational. Hell, I love how the WWE seems to be playing with the net. Oh, and Gene Snitsky: Foot Fetishist. The Bad: Diva Search (skipped that though) The Mediocre/Just OK: Everything else. All in all, this Raw is a classic because of Matt Hardy. Other than that, it was a middling affair. After tonight though, I'll bet ya that Vince has this in his eyes: $_$ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Astro101 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 Are there two Matt Striker/Strykers? I thought I read somewhere that said it wasn't the same one who had worked for ROH, but this Striker is actually gonna work for ROH or just had been...so are there two different wrestlers with the same name? Or just one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fro 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 Hogan/HBK will most likely be like Hogan/Rock - the match itself will probably not be that great, but it'll be passable and be enough of a "memorable moment" that we'll turn into marks for 15 minutes or so. Hogan wins, fades out for just a little while, until Austin challenges him for WrestleMania 22. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nah, Michaels will drag a very good match out of Hogan. You forget how good he is compared to say, the Rock at carrying people. This is the guy who had a great match with friggin Yokozuna on Raw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slickster 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 Hogan/HBK will most likely be like Hogan/Rock - the match itself will probably not be that great, but it'll be passable and be enough of a "memorable moment" that we'll turn into marks for 15 minutes or so. Hogan wins, fades out for just a little while, until Austin challenges him for WrestleMania 22. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My God, that match would be great. If this was 2002. But now? It could reach Hogan-Warrior II levels of badness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trecko Report post Posted July 12, 2005 First off, KOAB, everytime I see your avatar it makes me regret deleting that video. Both of those girls are.... As for that last segment...I'm mad. They dress him up in all white to make it come across as him being pure and virginal. I loved it. I thought it'd be the perfect set up for what someone here mentioned before as HBK wanting to get Hogan for being referred to as "God", and even as immortal. But to be honest, I damn near fell asleep during his little speech. Blah blah, I did this because I wanted to sacrifice myself for the fans and be in Hogan's final match. LAME. You have dude dressed to act the part of someone who's been cleansed, and shit all over it. Fuck Hogan, fuck "HasBeenKid"(lol, that's great @ the guy who used that). Other than that, as I said earlier, best RAW of 2005. Can't wait for next week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2005 Check this out... Most users ever online was 257 on Jul 11 2005, 11:03 PM http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?act=idx (very bottom) Cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
