12/3 Ratings and a surprise at TP

[razazteca 0]

Touring small civic centers, elk lodges, bingo halls under the NWA banner would'nt be profitable?

[UZI Suicide 0]

I'm guessing a Monday Night timeslot to compete with RAW, beginning in 2006.

[slimm44 0]

This ppv does look really good. Wish I was going to be there live..as for the 'surprise' I doubt it will be an announcement. Probably another match added with a big name facing Raven

[Guest [censored]]

TNA fans better hope to God it's a better time slot. They'll lose their ass if they tour. Pro wrestling as a whole is cold and it would be monumentally stupid to tour right now. Wait until the market heats up and then put yourself out there.

 

 

This is exactly what I was thinking. I think Melzter wrote that you need to get 2000paid each event to break even which I don't think TNA could do right now.

[syxx2001 0]

As stated by many in the "10 things I'd change in TNA right now" thread, TNA should shave down to 6-8 ppv's a year. The ppv market is too saturated right now. MMA (UFC in particular) is on the rise, boxing is always gonna be there, and WWE has 180,000 or more buys for their monthly ppv's. TNA isn't established enough yet to keep up the pace of a ppv a month and still be profitable. They need to get out of this mentality that if you are a pro wrestling company, that you need to be running a ppv a month. Just because WWE can do it and be successful, doesn't mean that success will translate to you.

 

Didnt people tell Eric Bischoff the same thing about a 3 hour Monday Night Show and 12 PPVs a year? Im probably wrong, but, whatever. SOMEBODY was told the same thing, and in wrestling, you dont become sucessful by not taking risks.

[Guest [censored]]

As stated by many in the "10 things I'd change in TNA right now" thread, TNA should shave down to 6-8 ppv's a year. The ppv market is too saturated right now. MMA (UFC in particular) is on the rise, boxing is always gonna be there, and WWE has 180,000 or more buys for their monthly ppv's. TNA isn't established enough yet to keep up the pace of a ppv a month and still be profitable. They need to get out of this mentality that if you are a pro wrestling company, that you need to be running a ppv a month. Just because WWE can do it and be successful, doesn't mean that success will translate to you.

 

Didnt people tell Eric Bischoff the same thing about a 3 hour Monday Night Show and 12 PPVs a year? Im probably wrong, but, whatever. SOMEBODY was told the same thing, and in wrestling, you dont become sucessful by not taking risks.

 

 

Bischoff says in the Monday Night wars DVD that people told him he would kill the business when he increased the number of PPV's starting from 4. However there are huge differences from WCW and TNA and WCW going to 7 and then eventually 12 PPV's and TNA starting with 12. Also the 3 hour timeslot is looked upon as a mistake by almost everyone now as is thunder.

[syxx2001 0]

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As stated by many in the "10 things I'd change in TNA right now" thread, TNA should shave down to 6-8 ppv's a year. The ppv market is too saturated right now. MMA (UFC in particular) is on the rise, boxing is always gonna be there, and WWE has 180,000 or more buys for their monthly ppv's. TNA isn't established enough yet to keep up the pace of a ppv a month and still be profitable. They need to get out of this mentality that if you are a pro wrestling company, that you need to be running a ppv a month. Just because WWE can do it and be successful, doesn't mean that success will translate to you.

 

Didnt people tell Eric Bischoff the same thing about a 3 hour Monday Night Show and 12 PPVs a year? Im probably wrong, but, whatever. SOMEBODY was told the same thing, and in wrestling, you dont become sucessful by not taking risks.

 

 

Bischoff says in the Monday Night wars DVD that people told him he would kill the business when he increased the number of PPV's starting from 4. However there are huge differences from WCW and TNA and WCW going to 7 and then eventually 12 PPV's and TNA starting with 12. Also the 3 hour timeslot is looked upon as a mistake by almost everyone now as is thunder.

 

Yea, but the 3 hour show was still successful for the time being. And if there was no Thunder, there would be no Smackdown. But Im a WCW and TNA mark, so Ill always have something to rebut with.

[haws bah gawd 0]

I'm trying not to get too excited over this little tidbit. Remember, Tony Shiavonne used to say that every Nitro was the greatest night in the history of the sort. So, for Dixie Carter to say Turning Point will be the biggest night in TNA history is an exagerration at this point. It had better either be the signing of someone on the scale of Brock Lesnar, or a monday night timeslot.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

I've always wondered what Dixie looks like. I finally found a picture at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Carter_(TNA) if anyone is interested.

 

She kinda looks like Miss Elizabeth in my opinion.

[Guest GoJoe]

Just read at TNAWrestling.com that Aries/Bentley vs. Shelley/Strong has been added to the PPV lineup.

 

Jeff Hardy is working the preshow.

[Twisted Intestine 0]

Too bad, Jeff Hardy can draw some buys.

 

If you smellllllll what the announcement is cookin'

 

DENANANANANANANEEEEWWWWWWW

[RedJed 0]

I really dont see it out of the realm of possibility that Jericho or Lesnar could possibly show up at anytime considering Jericho is free and is good friends with Christian, who has publicly stated he is trying to get Jericho into the company - and with Lesnar, there was at some point a NJPW-TNA relationship of some sort documented by Liger being in. With that said, will they this Sunday? Jericho maybe, but not counting on it.

 

I am pretty sure they are going to announce a Monday Night timeslot, hopefully head-to-head (preferably just one hour for now) with Raw.

 

Depending on how this is promoted on Saturday's Impact will be telling on if this announcement pertains to an internal company move or if it's an actual worker debuting on Sunday.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Man, I would so cuddle with Dixie Carter. And while doing so, give her booking advice and storyline ideas. God that'd be hot.

[Dangerous A 0]

I don't know if the timeslot would be Monday head to head, but I could see Turning Point being the announcement of a weekday prime time slot and the debut of someone like Charlie Haas.

 

Lesnar and Jericho are too big a name to squander on a surpise pop. Guys like that should be advertised ahead of time to take advantage of curiosity buys. Haas isn't at that level and can debut without hype.

[Guest [censored]]

I am pretty sure they are going to announce a Monday Night timeslot, hopefully head-to-head (preferably just one hour for now) with Raw.

 

 

How are you pretty sure?

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Yeah, I think a TV show related announcement is probably what it is going to amount to. I'm kind of doubting they'll be running head to head with RAW, seeing as how there is zero evidence of that. I think a Thursday night slot would be much more likely (capitalize on the established Smackdown audience, etc). Plus, note that the ad on TNA's site says "2006".

[Astro101 0]

I'm completely stumped as to what announcement it is. At first I thought it was a timeslot change on Spike, but she said it adds to the ppv, so I dunno. It's great that the rating is still the same. Well, it'd be better if it got better but at least it was the second highest viewership. Oh, yes, Dixie is a total MILF.

[Dimensions 0]

Maybe they're droppin 'TNA'. I wouldn't mind if they went with NWA.

[razazteca 0]

TNA = porn

 

so a name change should be something to be considered.....maybe change it to Xtreme Championship Wrestling from Florida

Edited December 7, 2005 by razazteca

[Rendclaw 0]

As bad as Raw has gotten, they are still in no position to go head-to-head. They are on the rise, but they still aren;t strong enough to compete directly. To do so now would be suicide.

 

To me, it would make much more sense to annouce a second hour... there is no big acquisition this time, because there isn;t any serious buzz going around, and as was previously said, if it was a huge name such as Jericho or Benoit, it would have gotten out by now.

[razazteca 0]

As bad as Raw has gotten, they are still in no position to go head-to-head. They are on the rise, but they still aren;t strong enough to compete directly. To do so now would be suicide.

Well if TNA did go head-2-head against WWE then it would have to put on its A-game if you will and put on 10-20 minute X Division matches along with the usual quick squash matches introducing the stars.

Edited December 7, 2005 by razazteca

[Twisted Intestine 0]

I don't get how it would be "suicide". Can someone please explain this to me?

 

TNA is currently getting .8 ratings. Most TNA fans probably like TNA more than WWE, so moving to Monday, they should at least keep the .8, no?

 

Plus, they'd be in primetime and on "Wrestling night", in addition to RAW fans possibly tuning in and enjoying TNA during RAW commercials or something.. so their rating might even raise a bit?

 

I don't see WWE making any drastic changes to kill TNA if they moved to Monday, so why does everyone figure it would be suicide? I'd expect them to at least keep the .8 for the first bit, and maybe grow in ratings after that.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

I don't see WWE making any drastic changes to kill TNA if they moved to Monday, so why does everyone figure it would be suicide? I'd expect them to at least keep the .8 for the first bit, and maybe grow in ratings after that.

UFC isn't even in the same field as WWE but Vince still tried to steal their lead announcer wheh they went head-to-head. If TNA went head-to-head with WWE, Vince would go all-out to kill them dead. That's why it would be suicide.

[bob_barron 0]

Jericho's mom just died and he's busy touring.

[Guest [censored]]

I don't see WWE making any drastic changes to kill TNA if they moved to Monday, so why does everyone figure it would be suicide? I'd expect them to at least keep the .8 for the first bit, and maybe grow in ratings after that.

UFC isn't even in the same field as WWE but Vince still tried to steal their lead announcer wheh they went head-to-head. If TNA went head-to-head with WWE, Vince would go all-out to kill them dead. That's why it would be suicide.

 

 

I doesn't matter how they do in comparrison to the WWE. All that matters is if A) they can get higher ratings than they are now and B) can they get a higher than spike's current programming gets in that spot. Whether or not they beat the WWE or even come close is irrelevant to everyone but fans on message boards.

[razazteca 0]

If .8 is the norm for Saturday night

If .5 is the norm for the Monday replay

 

Then the proposed prime time show on Monday should get 1.0?

[dubq 0]

I'm guessing new timeslot or that they're withdrawing from the NWA and creating their own titles. The latter is a longshot though seeing as how they've gone to great lengths to remind everyone of the history of the NWA World Title... though you never know with pro wrestling companies nowadays.

[Guest El Satanico]

Raw is in bad shape, but head to head with WWe is still a big step and TNA isn't ready yet. Monday at 8 and building up to Monday at 9 would be better.

[Guest God Junior]

I was skeptical about how big the announcement would be, but the fact that Carter doesn't have much of a history in the business and thus is less likely to utilize the time-honored hyperbole and bait-n-switch makes me a little more optimistic. I think the ideas of a new TV slot or a name change are most likely so far, but she said it's something that'll add to the PPV and neither of those would really. I guess it could just be a misphrasing.

[King Cucaracha 0]

Going head to head with Raw might draw in some of the 'man, Raw sucks, what else is on' audience. If it's advertised properly, of course. But HTQ is right, Vince'd pull every trick in the book to get rid of TNA.

 

I still think it's the touring idea.