Red Baron 0 Report post Posted June 27, 2006 Few notes: F. Karbale signed with the Canes for 8.8 million for 4 years. Salary Cap is at $44 million and. Mike Sullivan was "relieved from his duties" today. Rumours have it that Dave Lewis and Pat Quinn are up for the job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 27, 2006 Havlat's supposedly being talked about in a deal for Vesa Toskala. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustJoe2k5 0 Report post Posted June 27, 2006 Havlat's supposedly being talked about in a deal for Vesa Toskala. I don't know. If I were San Jose, I think I would offer Nabokov ahead of Toskala. Toskala seems to have more left in the tank at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianGuitarist 0 Report post Posted June 27, 2006 Havlat's supposedly being talked about in a deal for Vesa Toskala. I don't know. If I were San Jose, I think I would offer Nabokov ahead of Toskala. Toskala seems to have more left in the tank at this point. I'm inclined to think Muckler is hoping Toskala catches a case of the Kippers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted June 27, 2006 sens probably dont want nabokov for havlat. the sharks should make this deal, by the way. im not as convinced as others that nabokov should be dealt over toskala, especially if they can get a grade a player in return. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustJoe2k5 0 Report post Posted June 27, 2006 I like the re-signing of Frantisek Kaberle, very underrated player and probably one of my favorites on the 'Canes' roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KGB 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 Hockey Hall of Fame inductees will be announced tomorrow. Here's a big list of players eligible for the Hall, sorted by year of retirement (yeah, there's some players who obviously won't ever get in... and then there's Patrick Roy): FIRST BALLOT PLAYERS (retired for three years) Player, Position, Year Retired Tom Barrasso, G, 2003 Pavel Bure, F, 2003 Ken Daneyko, D, 2003 Phil Housley, D, 2003 Doug Gilmour, F, 2003 Adam Graves, F, 2003 Kirk Muller, F, 2003 Patrick Roy, G, 2003 Mike Richter, G, 2003 HOLDOVERS Player, Position, Year Retired Gary Suter, D, 2002 John Vanbiesbrouck, G, 2002 Pat Verbeek, F, 2002 Mike Vernon, G, 2002 Brian Bellows, F, 1999 Dino Ciccarelli, F, 1999 Bernie Nicholls, F, 1999 Kevin Lowe, D, 1998 Glenn Anderson, F, 1997 Sergei Makarov, F, 1997 Steve Larmer, F, 1995 Dave Taylor, F, 1994 Tim Kerr, F, 1993 Bobby Smith, F, 1993 Doug Wilson, D, 1993 Rogatien Vachon, G, 1982 Hockey HOF ready for more Gilmour and Bure also eligible By NEIL STEVENS -- Canadian Press TORONTO - Only 12 players in NHL history scored more goals than Dino Ciccarelli, but he's been denied a place in the Hockey Hall of Fame. That could change when the selection committee decides on a new slate of inductees Wednesday, but Ciccarelli isn't holding his breath. He's already been passed over three times. Committee members who have deemed Ciccarelli not good enough to get in ignore the reality that he scored more goals than Rocket Richard, Guy Lafleur, Jean Beliveau, Gilbert Perreault, Darryl Sittler, Bryan Trottier and dozens of other forwards who have been inducted. He must have had something going for him and he scored all those goals after no team picked him in the NHL entry draft. Nobody was better in front of an opponent's net, taking a pounding in the process, than the five-foot-10 centre from Sarnia, Ont. Ciccarelli scored 608 goals and amassed 1,200 points in 1,232 games over 20 seasons with Minnesota, Washington, Detroit, Tampa Bay and Florida before retiring in 1999. He had his off-and on-ice troubles, including a 10-game suspension in 1988 for hitting Luke Richardson over the head with his stick, but some of the men whose plaques hang in the Hockey Hall of Fame also served suspensions during their careers. A maximum of four players can be selected for induction each year, and this year's shoo-in is Patrick Roy, the No. 1 goaltender of all time in the eyes of many. Roy's butterfly technique and intense mental focus made him the winningest goalie in NHL history. Pavel Bure, Doug Gilmour, Adam Graves, Tom Barrasso, Mike Richter and Phil Housley also are up for consideration for the first time. Players must be retired for at least three years. Roy won two NHL titles with the Montreal Canadiens and two more with the Colorado Avalanche, earning playoff MVP honours three times. He was on the league's first all-star team in 1989, 1990, 1992 and 2002. Selection to the Hockey Hall of Fame would cap a marvellous year for a man who was so good between the pipes that his nickname was St. Patrick. Roy, 40 now, has continued his winning ways as co-owner, manager and coach of the QMJHL's Quebec Remparts, who won the Memorial Cup in May with Roy behind the bench. Roy participated in a golf tournament on the eve of the selection committee's meeting and he'll be in his Remparts office Wednesday for the Canadian Hockey League's annual draft of European players. Bure, 35, was an international superstar before his NHL career was cut short by knee injuries. He scored 437 goals and earned 779 points in 702 games over 12 seasons. The speedy right-winger was called The Russian Rocket because of his scoring touch. He got 60 goals in 1992-1993 and again in 1993-94, when he helped the Vancouver Canucks get to the championship series. He was on the league's first all-star team that year. He led the NHL in goals scored in 2000 (58) and 2001 (59) with the Florida Panthers. Gilmour, 42, piled up 1,414 points in 1,474 NHL games over 20 years. The forward from Kingston, Ont., helped the Calgary Flames win the Stanley Cup in 1989, and he was named the NHL's best defensive forward when he played for the Toronto Maple Leafs in 1993. Graves, 38, doesn't have spectacular stats - 616 points in 1,152 games - but the Torontonian has always been about more than numbers. His dedication to the sport and his humanitarian work gave him a status few others attain. Barrasso and Richter join Roy as first-time eligible goalies, and a case could be made for each of them to join Roy in the hockey shrine. Barrasso, now 41, was best known for his immediate impact on the NHL. He stepped from high school hockey in Boston into the Buffalo Sabres' 1983-84 lineup, won the Calder Trophy as top rookie and the Vezina as best goalie, and was named to the first all-star team. He'd go on to win two NHL titles with the Pittsburgh Penguins in 1991 and 1992. Richter, 39, also an American, was a key member of the New York Rangers' 1994 championship team and he was MVP for the United States in a World Cup upset of Canada in 1996. A case can also be made for Mike Vernon, who wasn't picked in his first year of eligibility last year, to precede Barrasso or Richter into the Hall. The 43-year-old Calgarian won 385 NHL games and owns two Stanley Cup rings. Barrasso won 369 games and Richter 301. Housley, 42, was one of the best offensive-minded defencemen of his era. The Minnesotan was second-team all-star in 1992. Kirk Muller, Ken Daneyko and Kevin Dineen are among others eligible for the first time. Besides Ciccarelli, others who haven't garnered enough support in the past include Ralph Backstrom, Dick Duff, Glenn Anderson, Kevin Lowe and Steve Larmer. If the selection committee relents and lets Ciccarelli in, it couldn't happen at a more important juncture of his life beause his father, Benito Ciccarelli, is in rough shape. He has cancer, and he'd give anything to hear that his son, now 46, will enter hockey's shrine. The selection committee is chaired by Jim Gregory, the senior NHL vice-president for hockey operations. Members are Al Arbour, Scotty Bowman, Colin Campbell, Ed Chynoweth, John Davidson, Eric Duhatschek, Mike Emrick, Emile Francis, Dick Irvin, Stan Mikita, Richard Patrick, Marty Pavelich, Yvon Pedneault, Pat Quinn, Serge Savard, Frank Selke and Harry Sinden. The induction gala will take place Nov. 13. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 How long can they keep you on the ballot for? Isn't it pretty obvious that Vachon is never getting in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KGB 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 I'm not sure. The article that I posted also mentions Dick Duff and Ralph Backstrom among the candidates, for some reason; these guys have been retired even longer than Vachon and based on their playing careers, have no chance of getting in. They were decent players but their standing in the league was comparable to a guy like Adam Graves, at best. I think Rogie Vachon might already be in the Hall by now if he played for a consistently good team throughout most of his career. He carried the LA Kings in the 1970's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianGuitarist 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 Bure, Gilmour, Roy. Cicarelli, Anderson. I shouldn't say THAT'S IT but no one really jumps out at me otherwise. Suter will lways be remember as the guy who put Gretz's career on the downslide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 Roy, Gilmour, Barrasso and Ciccerelli are in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skullman80 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 Roy, Gilmour, Barrasso and Ciccerelli are in. If you are being serious... Congrats to all, but especially Tommy B. Great goaltender for the Pens for a long long long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 Tommy B might get in based on the Cups, but I never really thought of him as a HoFer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KGB 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 He's a Hall of Very Good (who came up with that one again?) player, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 If Tom B gets in, and Mike Vernon, doesn't I'll be livid. Pavel Bure should get in no doubt, he was a beast. Imagine him in his prime playing in the new NHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 Bruins FINALLY make up their minds and show MOC the door. Leaving the guy hanging like that past the Draft is just sad. EDIT: And by MOC I mean Mike Sullivan. Yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 If Gilmour gets voted in, I might make the effort to go to the ceremony and/or the HoF game. I don't think Tom Barrasso has a hope of getting in. How many goalies could have won those Cups with the Lemieux-Jagr Penguins? A bunch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stahl 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 Mike Richter is one of the most overrated goalies of all time. He should not get into the hall of fame at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianGuitarist 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 Mike Richter is one of the most overrated goalies of all time. He should not get into the hall of fame at all. Fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 28, 2006 Out of that whole group, I only put Roy, Bure, Gilmour and Glenn Anderson in based on the standards the current HOF has set. Forget Vernon, Barrasso and Richter, they all aren't good enough and don't have the numbers. Cicarelli's going to go the same route as Turgeon(in no way am I comparing them as players), setting a bar for people that don't get in. Vachon would have been in a long time ago if he didn't play in LA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 Bruins FINALLY make up their minds and show MOC the door. Leaving the guy hanging like that past the Draft is just sad. EDIT: And by MOC I mean Mike Sullivan. Yeah. I would have called you on that this morning, but it was still early and MOC made sense to me. Dave Lewis is apparently the guy. He has numerous years as an assistant coach to some guy named Scotty Bowman. I'll take that over the "Pat Quinn Presents: Dump, Chase and Dive". Big changes being made by Chiarelli. And they're unpopular in some cases (Boynton being dealt, Gill not being reupped, Rayzor traded), which tells me that he's not only committed to winning, but he's willing to do what is right over what is easy. I say Chiarelli is a good thing. Now if only he could hear me as he is locked in his office in Ottawa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 Patrick Roy, Herb Brooks, Dick Duff and Harley Hotchkiss were elected to the HHOF. Link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KGB 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 Dick Duff?! What the hell? Played for a lot of Cup winners in the Original Six (Toronto & Montreal dynasties) and never scored more than 53 points in a season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 Patrick Roy made it! Unbelievable! Who knew? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 How the hell did Doug not make it in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 How the hell did Doug not make it in? Yeah, no kidding. He won't make it in next year, either. That's when everyone who retired after the lockout becomes eligible -- Messier, Stevens, Francis, and MacInnis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2006 Dougy would be in before Stevens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted June 29, 2006 I'm not sure about that. Stevens has more rings, and a Conn Smythe. Plus he's fresher in people's minds. Don't get me wrong, I want to believe you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted June 29, 2006 Bryan McCabe is resigning with the Leafs. 5 years, $28.75 mil. Link I think they're going to regret that contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted June 29, 2006 Wow. Definitly not worth that much. Should be no more than four tops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
