Red Baron 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Kane and Finlay was a decent match. Nothing remarkable, but a good way to open the match. ** Glad to see Umaga winning the match. Nothing spectacular *3/4 Very disappointing for the Chavo vs Rey match. Obviously they wanted Mysterio to play it safe and the match quality showed. ** Womans Rumble...Piss break. Was expecting more from Punk and Morrison * HHH vs Booker was okay, and a huge mark out for the Harlem Hangover (even if it was a miss) ** Khali vs Batista was a DUD Orton vs Cena was a good match with good heat. It loses a half star because of the ending. *** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mfn 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 I've seen that shitty neckbreaker too. What about the "fisherman's" suplex he does? You either hold the leg, or you don't. Bret Hart used to do that suplex. It's just how he does them; it's a vertical suplex with the thigh used as the handhold rather than the trunks. Yes, Bret Hart did do it. So did Mr. Perfect. The difference? They were actually good at executing the moves. Cena looks so shitty and uncordinated when he's working. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blade2kxx 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 I've seen that shitty neckbreaker too. What about the "fisherman's" suplex he does? You either hold the leg, or you don't. Bret Hart used to do that suplex. It's just how he does them; it's a vertical suplex with the thigh used as the handhold rather than the trunks. Yes, Bret Hart did do it. So did Mr. Perfect. The difference? They were actually good at executing the moves. Cena looks so shitty and uncordinated when he's working. I sometimes wonder if that's intentional on Cena's part to drive home the fact that John Cena the character is more about fighting than wrestling. I have no doubt that Cena the person could do a perfect Fisherman's Suplex, but maybe that's not the point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perfection 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Nick Hogan was just in a real bad car accident according to Alvarez and Rajah From TMZ: Hulk Hogan's son Nick was seriously injured in a car accident tonight in Clearwater, Fl. Law enforcement tells TMZ the accident occurred around 7:31 p.m. ET tonight. According to police, a Toyota Supra, driven by Nick Bollea (Hogan's real name), was traveling at a very high rate of speed when it lost control and hit a raised median. The car was flipped around and the back end hit a palm tree. The impact, we're told, "destroyed the entire car." The two male occupants were flown by Medivac helicopter from the accident scene to a hospital in St Petersburg. We're told both injuries are "very very serious." The accident happened on Court Street, a main drag in downtown Clearwater, causing the entire street to be shut down for hours. No 911 call was made to police. The accident was actually called in by an officer who rolled up right after the crash happened. Oh my. UPDATE, from PerezHilton: A male passenger was critically injured in the awful accident, but police are saying that it was not Nick Hogan. We all saw this coming, didn't we? Cnn says nick is in serious condition. http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/26/h...rash/index.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Okay half of Unforgiven might be set up but who gives a shit about any of this? Cena beat Orton clean. There is no issue there now. Orton was just jobber of the month. HHH just squashed Booker really so there's hardly a rematch that needs to happen there. I can actually see Batista vs. Khali but this time it must be a Punjabi Prison match. They can get the title off Khali there without him actually even really jobbing. And Punk vs. Morrison yet again on PPV? Can we please add some stips to these rematches to differentiate them from the previous umpteen matches? As in make it an Extreme Rules match and have Punk fucking WIN THE MATCH. If they aren't ever going to book some title changes it's time to drop the monthly PPVs. Just have Clash of the Champions type shows on USA or something. At least there people won't be expecting a huge amount. This was a major PPV tonight and I feel like jack shit of note happened, as though I was blessed to see HHH and Rey return and win. As far as Cena goes, I put 2 and 2 together and realized something. The rumor is that Kennedy will be revealed as Vince's boy in October. What PPV is coming up soon after? Survivor Series, the 10 year anniversary of the Montreal Screwjob. I'm thinking Kennedy gets a title shot there, and Vince has them "ring the fucking bell" on Cena to screw him royally out of the belt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kristianna 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Everyone at my watching party was pretty pissed to see Punk lose to Morrison... again. I really don't know what the hell they're hoping to accomplish by consistently jobbing him out like that. My boyfriend is a HUGE Punk fan, and I haven't seen him that pissed off at something "fake" in a really long time. No one much gave two-shits about Rey v. Chavo, but I was glad to see the little guy back. The body paint was... something. Trips was back in full force, and I for one, I was happy. I thought he looked great. Batista and Khali wasn't much, and I don't think anyone was really that into it. Diva Battle Royal, same. I was glad to see Kane win, as I've always liked the guy. Cena v. Orton... what's left to say? I actually thought Orton would win, even though I wanted Cena to win. Life's funny like that, I guess. I think the only thing that was a huge surprise was Umaga pinning Kennedy. I was pretty damn certain it was going to be Kennedy over Carlito, to take the title without making Umaga job. Overall, it was a good enough time, gotta clean up the beer bottles and get ready for the fallout that will be RAW tomorrow night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cd213 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 This was the first PPV that I watched since WM. I went to my friends house for his birthday and we decided to get the PPV. I must sa it was a great night, my friends and I had so much fun...making fun of the PPV. This PPV was such shit. The best part was Regal dancing around. The Austin part was so obvious once you know that beers are in the cooler. Kane and Finlay was a fun little opener. Nothing great though with an obvious finish. Umaga vs Carlito vs Kennedy was ok. Kennedy did a good job in this match and I liked the interaction with Umaga. I'm looking forward to this feud. Chavo vs Rey was shit. It was so slow. Rey made Chavo look horrible. He needs to just retire already. After his interviews, Rey needs to go away for a while now. Women's Battle Royal was horrible. Very boring. The best part was seeing Victoria and Mickie, even if it was only for a few seconds. Punk vs Morrison was whatever. ECW is done. HHH vs Booker wasn't that bad. It was good to HHH, but you can really see how much weight he has lost. He looked pretty good. Khali vs Batista...no comment Orton vs Cena had a good build up. The ending was such shit though. Cena always looks dead bu can easily pull out his finisher and not look tired. Orton looked pretty bad. I don't think I have seen so many rest holds used by one guy in such a long time. I was happy to see Cena win, I want to see him go on a 2 year title run just as a FUCK YOU to everyone that boos him. I've always hated the gimmick, but have been a fan of his since his Prototype days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spman 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 This show was just another throw away. Finlay vs Kane was great, as was Cena vs Orton, everything else was just kind of meh. I fell asleep on my buddies couch in the middle of Chavo vs Rey and didn't wake up until Austin came out, but from the looks of it, I didn't miss anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyHendricks 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Nick Hogan was just in a real bad car accident according to Alvarez and Rajah From TMZ: Hulk Hogan's son Nick was seriously injured in a car accident tonight in Clearwater, Fl. Law enforcement tells TMZ the accident occurred around 7:31 p.m. ET tonight. According to police, a Toyota Supra, driven by Nick Bollea (Hogan's real name), was traveling at a very high rate of speed when it lost control and hit a raised median. The car was flipped around and the back end hit a palm tree. The impact, we're told, "destroyed the entire car." The two male occupants were flown by Medivac helicopter from the accident scene to a hospital in St Petersburg. We're told both injuries are "very very serious." The accident happened on Court Street, a main drag in downtown Clearwater, causing the entire street to be shut down for hours. No 911 call was made to police. The accident was actually called in by an officer who rolled up right after the crash happened. Oh my. UPDATE, from PerezHilton: A male passenger was critically injured in the awful accident, but police are saying that it was not Nick Hogan. We all saw this coming, didn't we? Cnn says nick is in serious condition. http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/26/h...rash/index.html Perez has pics of the car: That CNN link has footage of Hogan at the scene. I'm not surprised at all that this happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broward83 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Was I the only one that was underwhelmed when Trips came out? I mean...all the build up.. all the hype.. and we get the lame "time to play the game" theme? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 I'm glad someone else is baffled at this shit with John Morrison. Will someone please get Dave Lagana's head out of his ass? It's like "Okay, we're in a tough spot due to Benoit and we don't want Punk getting the belt in such a circumstance, so we'll let Johnny Nitro win. But then on the next PPV we won't just realize how fucking stupid that was, we'll just job Punk to him again clean. Don't worry, we had to since we just changed Morrison's gimmick. Now we have Punk earn yet another title shot, but we're just jobbing him AGAIN at SS." Don't they realize that there is literally nowhere to go with Morrison holding the title? ECW has no other major face to make a PPV, yet they DO have some other heels. So why the fuck in Morrison holding this belt?? If he didn't get over with one win over Punk, didn't get over after 2 wins, how is he going to get over with 3? It's not getting Morrison over and it's just burying Punk because fans don't buy Johnny F'N Nitro with a world title. Bear in mind Punk beat this guy back in March in a MITB qualifier with very little effort. How is Morrison/Nitro now sooooo much better that Punk can't figure this guy out? It's some of the stupidest booking I've seen in a while. At least with Batista he doesn't lose all of these title matches he's in. As in his opponent just gets a DQ or a countout, whatever. I ask everyone, would they seriously tell Batista to job to Booker on 3 straight PPVs last year without much interference or cheating? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JPopStarKami 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Well, think about it. They obviously want to set up an Extreme Rules blowoff by having Morrison have to cheat to win. Remember, Punk can beat Morrison clean, and in under 15 minutes, we saw that for ourselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brocklock 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Orton looked pretty bad. I don't think I have seen so many rest holds used by one guy in such a long time. Those aren't restholds. Rest holds involve resting and Orton looks like he's putting every effort in trying to strangle Cena until he passes out. I love Orton's chinlocks. Go back to watching your lameass Petey Williams flipping Piledriver shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 "They obviously want to set up an Extreme Rules blowoff by having Morrison have to cheat to win." Anyone else getting Deja Vu with this excuse for Punk losing every month? Why, exactly, would a match being no DQ or whatever HELP Punk? Morrison looked great in an Extreme Rules match against Dreamer. Since when is Punk some God of "Extreme Rules" matches? Has he even been in one? I'd be more worried about the titles that actually have a little bit of value left before you throw your arms up about the ECW European Title. The loud-ass "BORING" chants for Khali/Batista trumped the Taker/JBL Stinker from '04, and Cena has no credible challengers that can actually have a fun match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 My "Grey Mysterio" comment on chat inspired me to do a quick photo edit..haha. I couldn't really well see what he looked like perfectly through the stream feed but I could tell he was painted gray..hence.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cd213 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Orton looked pretty bad. I don't think I have seen so many rest holds used by one guy in such a long time. Those aren't restholds. Rest holds involve resting and Orton looks like he's putting every effort in trying to strangle Cena until he passes out. I love Orton's chinlocks. Go back to watching your lameass Petey Williams flipping Piledriver shit. Ok, I will considering it's an actual movie that is supposed to knock your opponent out for long enough to pin them. And those chinlocks are considered rest holds. A rest hold is a hold where you are not moving giving time for you and the opponent time to catch your breath enough to do another big move, no matter how much effort it seems the person is putting into the move. The only problem with that in this match was after the chinlocks it was back to more punching and kicking, no big power moves or chain wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darthtiki 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 I hung my head in shame when I saw Rey's enterance and I think they missed the mark with HHH's enterance (no King of Kings or Conan) unless there is some form of gimmick match they're setting up for Unforgiven. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cd213 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 I was thinking of where they can go with Cena and Orton now. Why don't they turn real life into part of the show. Tomorrow Orton can be at the hotel and he just flips out since he didn't win. He can then trash the hotel room and that can be his gimmick. He has just gone crazy and his is giving a rematch. At the next PPV it is built up as Cena vs Orton "the nut job" that will do anything now to win the title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Well there's forty fucking dollars down the fucking toilet. I have no idea how the show itself was, because my FUCKING CABLE COMPANY is a piece of shit. I wouldn't be home for Summerslam, and despite knowing better than to order it because I had no interest in watching HHH squash Booker T, I went ahead and ordered it and set my not Tivo to record it. I then SET THE FUCKING CABLE BOX ON THE PROPER CHANNEL. So what happens when the PPV starts? My cable box pops up "A PPV you ordered is about to start, want to go to it now?" Despite the fact that I'M ON THE FUCKING CHANNEL ITS ON, so I recorded 3 hours of that and no show. And to top it off for some reason I'm not getting the replay right now either so I can't even salvage the last fucking hour. I blame HHH. FUCK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike wanna be 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 All things considered, that's possibly one of the better outcomes of spending $40 on this PPV. Matches we've seen several times before (sometimes even on free TV), a bad ME with a stupid finish, the wrong guy goes over and NOTHING was made of Orton's quest for the belt; remember back a few months when he wanted the shot and pointed out that everyone else had had their shot 1v1, but not him? I hope you do, because apparently nobody else does. The most obvious buildup possible is completely ignored. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted August 27, 2007 So is the replay only not playing for me because GCI sucks ass, or is this not my company's fault and no one is getting the replay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brocklock 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Orton looked pretty bad. I don't think I have seen so many rest holds used by one guy in such a long time. Those aren't restholds. Rest holds involve resting and Orton looks like he's putting every effort in trying to strangle Cena until he passes out. I love Orton's chinlocks. Go back to watching your lameass Petey Williams flipping Piledriver shit. Ok, I will considering it's an actual movie that is supposed to knock your opponent out for long enough to pin them. And those chinlocks are considered rest holds. A rest hold is a hold where you are not moving giving time for you and the opponent time to catch your breath enough to do another big move, no matter how much effort it seems the person is putting into the move. The only problem with that in this match was after the chinlocks it was back to more punching and kicking, no big power moves or chain wrestling. I'd consider it a resthold if he was just lazily sitting there with his arm softly tucked under Cena's chin. But, Orton tugs and turns and twists and actually makes a fucking chinlock look painful and like it could take Cena out. I really enjoyed the main event btw. Orton's improved a ton since he took the cold blooded killer gimmick instead of cocky and arrogant. I liked Rey/Chavo and Kane/Finlay as well but the rest of the show was kind of there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Everyone at my watching party was pretty pissed to see Punk lose to Morrison... again. I really don't know what the hell they're hoping to accomplish by consistently jobbing him out like that. My boyfriend is a HUGE Punk fan, and I haven't seen him that pissed off at something "fake" in a really long time. You just answered your own question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 So, basically, they used Summerslam the number 2 show of the year to build towards Unforgiven again? Glad I saved my money. As for Cena, how could you all forget his 'worst hiptoss' ever in the list of moves he can't do? And forget the 1 year reign, we should start worrying about a Sammartino reign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntiLeaf33 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 This PPV was a waste of time and money (which thankfully, I saw for free). No title changes, booking that makes zero sense, and just an overall feeling that makes you feel like you were jipped off. Also, I know they want the other PPV's to have good buy rates for the other non-big PPV's, but if they are using the major PPV's to hype or build the smaller PPV's, then thats only going to hurt the buisness in the loing run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Glad I didn't order this one...I was thinking about it because I wanted to see Orton win the belt, and obviously that didn't happen. What is with WWE rarely doing title changes on PPVs now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Orton looked pretty bad. I don't think I have seen so many rest holds used by one guy in such a long time. Those aren't restholds. Rest holds involve resting and Orton looks like he's putting every effort in trying to strangle Cena until he passes out. I love Orton's chinlocks. Go back to watching your lameass Petey Williams flipping Piledriver shit. Ok, I will considering it's an actual movie that is supposed to knock your opponent out for long enough to pin them. And those chinlocks are considered rest holds. A rest hold is a hold where you are not moving giving time for you and the opponent time to catch your breath enough to do another big move, no matter how much effort it seems the person is putting into the move. The only problem with that in this match was after the chinlocks it was back to more punching and kicking, no big power moves or chain wrestling. They're only considered restholds when they don't make sense in the terms of the match. Any time Orton wasn't systematically pounding on Cena's head, he was choking him out, ie. cutting off oxygen flow to the brain. A chinlock also does that. In the context of the match, it made sense for Orton to wrench those chinlocks in whenever Cena started making comebacks. I do believe the term is called psychology, or something to that effect. A chokehold variation used on somebody whose head is the main target makes a lot more sense than being dropped on your head and thrown outside of the ring...only to flip over them and give them an incredibly fake-looking piledriver. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mfn 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 The only problem with that in this match was after the chinlocks it was back to more punching and kicking, no big power moves or chain wrestling. And you actually expected that out of a Cena match? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Apparently, after reading the DVDVR thread for the PPV, Cena held up someone's "If Cena Wins, We Riot" sign post-match, and dared everyone to do just that. AWESOME. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billdynamite 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 i just caught the Cena/Orton match on Dailymotion. The crowd were really into it, loved the dueling chants. Maybe it was the crowd but i thought it was a pretty good match, and then what happened... it was going fine, building towards a finish but then BAM! F-U and it's over. Completely useless finish. Ruined everything. I saw up to the HHH match through a stream and it seemed an ok PPV at best. It's a real shame that WWE do not cash in on what would have been an epic crowd reaction in Orton winning, and then taking Raw into a different direction with someone other than Cena on top. i'm just disappointed that wrestling just isn't doing what it did to me 10 years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites