B. Brian Brunzell 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 For years, I was under the impression that either "Come On Eileen" o "Purple Rain" was the greatest pop song of all-time, and the perfect pop song. To have a great pop song, you need several things: a catchy hook, a catchy verse, and just the right amount of cheese in the music to get the kids going. Now, that being said, I have come to a new conclusion: "Just Like Heaven" is the perfect pop song. The hook is wonderful, as are the verses, and there is just a slight amount of cheesiness in that song that puts it over-the-top. Of course, Smith's lyrics are FAR superior to those of your typical pop star, but then again, Robert Smith writes better lyrics than most songwriters period. So anyway, what are your opinions on the subject? --Brunzell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 The dBs - Black and White Wire - Map Ref. 41 Degrees North 93 Degrees West Hüsker Dü - I Apologize Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry Spencer 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 I carried the opinion that Here Comes Your Man by The Pixies was the perfect pop song for quite a while. Now I'm not sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 The three I listed are all better than that song. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted August 4, 2004 Erm... how is "Purple Rain" a 'pop' song? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted August 4, 2004 La Bamba Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 Erm... how is "Purple Rain" a 'pop' song? Anything with the verse-chorus-verse structure can be classified as a pop song, but really, "Purple Rain" is a ballad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted August 4, 2004 Erm... how is "Purple Rain" a 'pop' song? Anything with the verse-chorus-verse structure can be classified as a pop song Blasphemy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry Spencer 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 It is not blasphemy. People are under the impression that pop music means only stuff like Brittney Spears, N'Sync, Madonna, etc., but Inc's definition is exactly right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 My current "Perfect" pop song is "Dancing In The Moonlight" by Toploader. Take 1 Van Morrison song, BritPop it up and there you go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murmuring Beast 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 God Only Knows. Good Vibrations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 Dirty Pop-NSync, i actually liked this song...eat a dick, haters... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCMaximo 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 "You're In A Bad Way" by St Etienne is a near-perfect pop song, as is "Something For The Weekend" by the Super Furry Animals. Hell, now I think about it, so is "Something For The Weekend" by the Divine Comedy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 Also, anything played on commercial radio is a "pop" song, be it Justin Timberlake or Limp Bizkit or whatever. Pop music has a very wide scope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted August 4, 2004 Pop Music should be popular, doesn't that eliminate Husker Du? Oh and I say it's "Maybe I'm Amazed" or "Hey Jude" great songs with lots of mass appeal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 Are you this retarded in the wrestling folders, too? As has been discussed, pop music doesn't have to be all over MTV. It describes a certain sound; melody, hooks and the like play a part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 Are you this retarded in the wrestling folders, too? Not anymore, haha. On topic: Just about anything from Asia's first two albums. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 What a hard topic. And a good way to start - "Just Like Heaven" is a fine choice. The Cure are fine for angst, but their poppiest stuff is really outstanding. Sticking to the zippier side of things, my personal choice: New Order, "Bizarre Love Triangle." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PlatinumBoy Report post Posted August 4, 2004 For me the perfect pop song would be any of Neil Diamond's classics. Thank the Lord for the Nighttime is one I'm currently quite taken with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 Barbie Girl is perfect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k thx 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 Crazy In Love. The pinacle of pop music. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCMaximo 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 Or "Crazy For You" by Let Loose, now THAT is the perfect pop song. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 SCATMAAAAAAAAN!!!!! Also, I'd challenge Inc's definition of pop music. In my opinion, pop music has changed from music that was popular to music that has been designed to be as popular as possible. With the inventions of rock n' roll and rap music, I feel that definition (music designed to popular) works best. It still encompasses many of the same songs you were thinking of, Inc, but does take out "artsy" music and music done by artists who just want to write the song. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 The Misfits' "Saturday Night" would have been classic pop in the 50s. I'd go with the Ramones' "I Wanna Be Sedated". Simple and catchy musically, easy chorus, and not too long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinetic 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 "Kiss" is really a better example of a great poppy Prince song than "Purple Rain." This is the sort of topic on which I'll change my mind over and over again, but I'll go ahead and say The Smiths' "This Charming Man" or the Kinks' "Victoria." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravenbomb 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 Baby Dick Fuck by Gwar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k thx 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 I'll go ahead and say The Smiths' "This Charming Man" A song about a gay sex with an older man isn't strictly pop, is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinetic 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 I'll go ahead and say The Smiths' "This Charming Man" A song about a gay sex with an older man isn't strictly pop, is it? It's catchy as fuck. What it's about is immaterial, as far as the pop argument is concerned. That it's about gay sex with an older man makes it all the more likable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k thx 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 Surely in pop, the lyrical content is as important as the tune. Sure, it's catchy as fuck, but a song so blatantly about buggery can't be populist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2004 Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen. Its a great song to sing too, catchy hooks, a head bangin guitar solo, its got everything a song should have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
