Jingus 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 I know others have already stated this, but I feel the need to back their opinions up: Eternal Sunshine got fucked with no vaseline. Why does the Academy hate Jim Carrey so? I reiterate my comment from the Golden Globes thread: how the FUCK can Jamie Foxx's character in Collateral (he's the protagonist of the story and has more screen time than Cruise) be considered a supporting role? I don't think I can say the phrase "Academy Award-nominated film Andrew Lloyd Webber's Phantom of the Opera" without actually gagging. At least the documentary nods were sharper than usual this year, I was glad to see Supersize Me on there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuna_Firerose 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 Best Picture - I've only seen FN and thats because I downloaded it. Lack of funds prevent it from being properly viewed, sadly. So, naturally, my vote is on FN.. such a beautiful movie, I think. Can't say much about the others.. Best Actor - Naturally, my vote is on Depp. Though, in all honesty, I think he deserved it MUCH MORE for Pirates... really, without his performance, the movie would be your average, run of the mill action movie even with the awesome Geoffrey Rush. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 Throw me into the - "How in the hell did Giamatti not get a nomination" group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 Answer for everyone in the "How the hell" group: Comedy falls second to old guy. Remember, Jim Carrey was believed to be well on his way to a nomination for...Truman Show I think it was and the old man riding the lawnmower, who no one had on their long list let alone short one, knocked him out. Old people > Comedy actors Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4hartthreat 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 The 2001 Best Actress race that was won by Halle is SERIOUSLY being misrepresented here. Everyone is going on about how it was a bad year for actresses, but nothing could be further from the truth. The 2001 best actress race was one of the most competitve in years. And sorry bob, but Rene wasn't even in the hunt, that's how good it was. You had three performances all worthy of an Oscar that were fighting it out in a race too lose to call. Sissy Spacek started out as the favorite for her performance in In the Bedroom with a bunch of critc's awards and a golden globe win. Berry really showed what a contender she was after taking the SAG award. And finally you had my pick Kidman with her performance in Moulin Rouge who had also won some critic's awards and the golden globe and who many thought would win as the acadamys way of rewarding Rouge since most knew Mind was taking the best picture award. Throw in two other good performances from Rene and oscar darling Dench and you have an incredibly strong field. So to just dismiss Berry's win as simply a result of a bad year for actresses is wrong and foolish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 The Passion should have been at least nominated for Best Picture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 Ewan Mcgregor should have won for Moulin Rouge if not for the "damn...our fault" award to Denzel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted January 25, 2005 After reading through the list of nominations, I must say these Awards are fast losing their credibility. People are getting nominated for their performance or work IN THAT MOVIE FOR THAT YEAR. This isn't the Hollywood Hall of Fame, where you can only select a few people for their achievement and then just wait till next year so you can give them an oscar for a performance they didn't deserve over someone much more deserving. Watching the Aviator, Million Dollar Baby, and Finding Neverland being nominated for Best Picture over such great films as Closer, Garden State (a film akin to 1967's The Graduate which had been nominated for 7 awards and won for Best Director), and most of all Eternal Sunshine is sickening. If Kaufman doesn't win for best screenplay, that would be even worse. At least Sideways got a couple good nominations, though not in the category that deserved it the most (sorry Paul, maybe in a few years after you establish yourself as a big draw!). Maybe they should start expanding the nominations to 7-8 now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 Garden State didn't deserve to be nominated since the last 15 minutes sucked ass. It also is so not on the level of the Graduate- it's really not even fair comparing the two. Did you even see Million Dollar Baby? Easily the best film that was nominated for Best Picture. (Still need to see Sidways) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 I need to see Finding Neverland. Is it really that good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 I liked it a lot but found it to be a bit too manipulative. Apparently Depp, Winslet and Marc Forster worked really hard to make sure it wasn't a CRY NOW picture like Spanglish was. It's a nice little movie and Depp was great Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 I really liked Finding Neverland, so I'd say yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 I just went to see Finding Neverland cause my gf wanted to see it...I left absolutely thrilled I had seen the movie. Outstanding, much better than Aviator. Dustin Hoffman was unbelievably hilarious in it as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted January 25, 2005 Garden State didn't deserve to be nominated since the last 15 minutes sucked ass. It also is so not on the level of the Graduate- it's really not even fair comparing the two. Did you even see Million Dollar Baby? Easily the best film that was nominated for Best Picture. (Still need to see Sidways) Considering your top 10 movies of the year had Raise Your Voice, Mean Girls, and Harry Potter on it (at #1 no less!), I'm not putting too much thought into your opinion, but it was very much so on the level of the Graduate and had a very similar feel to it. And yes I've seen all of the films being mentioned, and I don't think there's absolutely anything extraordinary about MDB, the Aviator, or Ray, aside from Jamie Foxx's performance, which maybe the exception coming from the Aviator (I wouldn't be shocked to see Leo win, since he did do a hell of a job). I'll probably give these movies a second viewing though, to reconsider my opinion, but I don't think any of them deserve a nomination over Eternal Sunshine, to be honest. Sideways deserves the recognition it gets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 I'm pulling for Don Cheadle. The usual mistakes as always though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 Considering your top 10 movies of the year had Raise Your Voice, Mean Girls, and Harry Potter on it (at #1 no less!), I'm not putting too much thought into your opinion Raise Your Voice- whatever. No one saw that movie, I did and loved it but there's no use in arguing it. Mean Girls got criticial acclaim (87% at RT) and commercial appeal (28.4% was made in opening weekend) so I don't get the hate there. It's probably one of the best teen comedies ever made and launched Lindsay Lohan into superstardom, launched Rachel McAdams career and tried to resurrect Tim Meadows' career. It's probably the funniest movie of 2004. Harry Potter got an 89% at RT making it one of the best reviewed movies of the year. I explained my reasonings for liking it in my top 10 thing- no film made me more emotionally involved. I'm sorry if you didn't like it but it managed to take all the best elements of Chamber of Secrets and just make it that much better. but it was very much so on the level of the Graduate and had a very similar feel to it. The Graduate is worlds better, it really isn't even funny. The Graduate didn't have the awful final 15 minutes that Garden State has. Graduate was also a more important movie. Had Garden St. recieved any serious nomnations, I would've hung my head in shame. And yes I've seen all of the films being mentioned, and I don't think there's absolutely anything extraordinary about MDB, the Aviator, or Ray, aside from Jamie Foxx's performance, which maybe the exception coming from the Aviator (I wouldn't be shocked to see Leo win, since he did do a hell of a job). Ray wasn't that good so it being nominated is bullshit. Aviator was a very good movie- I had it at #11 for the year. Had three amazing nominatable performances (Cate, Alec, Alan Alda) and a fine performance from Leo. Started out a bit slow but the stuff with Katherine Hepburn and his fights were the US Senate were great stuff. I don't think any of them deserve a nomination over Eternal Sunshine, to be honest I agree- none of the nominated pictures were better then Eternal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheLastBoyscout Report post Posted January 25, 2005 Murray was wanting to get the hell out of there after Penn won. Crystal had to stop him as he was getting up to leave. "Bill, don't go....don't go. We still love you." I would've said: Hey Bill- you're a whiny bitch who lost to the better man. Get over it and stop acting like a prick. Shut the fuck up. You've made your opinion clear. Stop repeating it. IT'S YOUR OPINION, NOT GOSPEL TRUTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 You shut the fuck up- I never said it was the gospel truth did I? I said (wait for it) WHAT I WOULD'VE SAID. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted January 25, 2005 Mean Girls got criticial acclaim (87% at RT) and commercial appeal (28.4% was made in opening weekend) so I don't get the hate there. It's probably one of the best teen comedies ever made and launched Lindsay Lohan into superstardom, launched Rachel McAdams career and tried to resurrect Tim Meadows' career. It's probably the funniest movie of 2004. Napoleon Dynamite redefined teen comedies much better than Mean Girls did. I thought Mean Girls was okay, but I was mostly salivating at Lacey Chabert throughout the film. Other than that, I thought it was an okay movie, certainly not one of the best movies of the year, and I don't think I'd call it the funniest of the year either with Anchorman (a movie that was done almost entirely on improvisation) and Harold & Kumar. Van Helsing also wins in the unintentional comedy department. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toshiaki Koala 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 What was Paul Giamatti in? Seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted January 25, 2005 He was in 2003's American Splendor depicting comic book writer Harvey Pekar, and he starred in Sideways this year with Thomas Hayden Church as a depressed wine connoseiur on the brink of a nervous breakdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 What was Paul Giamatti in? Seriously. Sideways Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 Napoleon Dynamite redefined teen comedies much better than Mean Girls did. I liked Napoleon Dynamite but it was basically a bunch of skits organised into one movie. Mean Girls was a teen comedy that was smart and appealed to everyone. Until one scene at the end, it didn't really treat its audience like morons like other teen films do. I thought Mean Girls was okay, but I was mostly salivating at Lacey Chabert throughout the film. Amanda Seyfried was the hottest and funniest of the girls in that movie. I'd rank Lacey secnd since the 'Stab Caesar' scene had her bringing the awesomeness. Other than that, I thought it was an okay movie, certainly not one of the best movies of the year, and I don't think I'd call it the funniest of the year either with Anchorman (a movie that was done almost entirely on improvisation) and Harold & Kumar. Yea I know Anchorman had a lot of improv. Anchorman focused too much on Christina Applegate and at times was too injokey. Still was a funny movie but I think they cut out too much just to sell the DVD. Didn't see Harold and Kumar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamoaRowe 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 Really lackluster nomination list this year. That's all I'm going to say about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 I'm pulling for "Tupac: Ressurection" in the documentary category if for no other reason than to hear what Chris Rock will have to say if it wins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 Jeez, Bob. Dissing Bill Murray and getting all moony over Lohan and Duff in the same thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 Everything I've read and heard about Murray makes me think he's a real prick. I don't think I mentioned my Duff love at all in the thread- it was VX who brought up Raise Your Voice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 Ah, indeed. I did think Mean Girls was a fun movie, you're not seriously thinking it's Oscar-worthy, though are you? (Saved! was better.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMann2003 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 I will give her credit for making sex with Billy Bob seem enjoyable...that's gotta be a hard thing for a woman to do... That sex didn't seem enjoyable, it was sex between two desperate lonely people trying to make a human connection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 I don't think it was Oscar worthy and I would've banged my head upon a desk if Tina did get a nod. (Tina did get a WGA nod for the movie) I do seriously think Tim Meadows at least should've been considering for stealing the show in Mean Girls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
