The 2005 Oscar Nominees

[2GOLD 0]

the only thing more irritating than watching the oscars is listening to people bitch incessantly about the oscars as if they meant something.

This is one of the bigger movie award shows though, which award show do you suggest having any credibility?

Teens Choice Awards.

 

SPIKE TV Video Game Awards.

[Black Lushus 0]

what's this new award show coming out? the car one? there's credibility...can't even remember the name...

[UZI Suicide 0]

Spiderman 2 was the best flick of the year..screw all these "sophisticated" movies.

[Jingus 0]

Spiderman 2 was a good movie, but not the best of the year. Hell, it wasn't even the best movie of 2004 to star Kirsten Dunst as a blond chick named Mary.

[The Czech Republic 0]

what's this new award show coming out? the car one? there's credibility...can't even remember the name...

AUTOROX!!!! It's the first award show for CARZ!!!!!!!!!

 

 

.65 Everest

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

I was actually referring to movie awards, but thanks for the effort 2GOLD.

[Guest El Satanico]

the only thing more irritating than watching the oscars is listening to people bitch incessantly about the oscars as if they meant something.

This is one of the bigger movie award shows though, which award show do you suggest having any credibility?

I believe his point is none of them are worth getting too serious about. The Oscars may be the biggest and best, but they aren't perfect.

 

Most of the so and so got screwed talk is just pointless bitching because someones personal favorite was left off. Unless one of the nominations is obviously unworthy there's nothing being screwed, as there are always more than 5 worthy of nomination.

 

 

Eternal Sunshine wouldn't have won best picture and Carrey wouldn't have won best actor, so there's no point in whining about them being nominated.

[Special K 0]

Spiderman 2 was a good movie, but not the best of the year. Hell, it wasn't even the best movie of 2004 to star Kirsten Dunst as a blond chick named Mary.

 

OMG MARY JANE'S A REDHEAD JINGUS /nerd.

[Ravenbomb 0]

Spiderman 2 was a good movie, but not the best of the year. Hell, it wasn't even the best movie of 2004 to star Kirsten Dunst as a blond chick named Mary.

That's total bullshit and you KNOW it!

 

 

Her hair was red in Spiderman 2

[Jingus 0]

I must have a more narrow definition of redhead then, cuz Dunst has always looked like a blond to me.

[Special K 0]

No, you're colorblind.

 

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

No, you're colorblind.

 

I'll settle this argument...

 

Its orange.

 

There we go ^^;

[Jingus 0]

...then again, it has been a while since I saw Spiderman 2, and I was pretty high at the time. Alrighty then, she indeed was a redhead in that one. Take the "blond" part out of my original statement.

[CBright7831 0]

See Dunst wore a wig in the first Spider-man movie, and in the second one, she dyed it red.

[Secret Agent 0]

Once again, If it's not a drama it doesn't get nominated for best picture - WTF!?

 

SpiderMan 2 was better than half of those films and Passion of Christ was a great movie and you have to be a fool to say it wasn't - they told so much with just their actions.

 

I'm also shocked of no mention of Sky Captain in the visual effects section.

[bob_barron 0]

Sideways got nominated and that's a comedy

[Secret Agent 0]

Holy shit - it is? I've never heard of it so hence my 'better than half' of those films.

[bob_barron 0]

It's a 'bittersweet' comedy apparently- it was in the category for musical/comedy.

 

So was Ray but that's b/c it's a musical

[godthedog 0]

the only thing more irritating than watching the oscars is listening to people bitch incessantly about the oscars as if they meant something.

This is one of the bigger movie award shows though, which award show do you suggest having any credibility?

eh...none that i can think of.

 

i appreciate the oscars' publicity for occasionally bringing attention to a movie that needs it (which has been a regular trend of theirs since the mid 90s or so). the screenplay nomination for 'before sunset' will get people talking about it and get people seeing it, and that makes me very happy. i could give a shit if it actually WINS...well actually i do, but only inasmuch as that would get it more attention. the award isn't any indication that it was actually the BEST screenplay of the year, because the oscars' history has shown to be a terrible indicator of that. would anyone who knows what he's talking about say that 'titanic' was the best movie of 1997? or that 'gladiator' was the best movie of 2000? or that 'ordinary people' was the best movie of 1980?

[Guest El Satanico]

I loved Spider-Man 2, but it doesn't deserve any noms other than tech awards. Hopefully we never get (back) to a point where Summer action films get Best Picture noms. In the 70's I believe Towering Inferno and a few other disaster flicks got noms.

 

I'm sure SM2 will clean up at the MTV awards, so maybe those are more your speed.

[Secret Agent 0]

Yeah, but if it's a good movie it's a good movie and that should be the deciding factor on noms. How often does a sequel actually expand upon the orginal so well without giving us the same damn thing rehashed like every other sequel?

 

Sorry, but after they awarded Beautiful Mind best picture(a boring pic IMHO) I so desperately want them to actually give the award to a movie that is actually good. Also MTV awards aren't as 'crowning of an acheivement' as the Oscars, even if the Oscars are shit these days.

[CBright7831 0]

How dare the MTV Awards nominate 50 First Dates for Best Movie, but not Kill Bill: Vol.1.

[Guest The Iron Yuppie]

Spiderman 2 was the best flick of the year..screw all these "sophisticated" movies.

I somewhat agree. I wouldn't have nominated Spiderman 2, but I wouldn't have a problem with it being nominated. While it may be a "summer action flick" it is actually a very good film, with better reviews than some of those that were nominated for Best Picture.

 

Spiderman 2: Rotten Tomatoes: 93%, Cream of the Crop: 95% Meta Critic: 83

 

The Aviatior: Rt 90%, CotC 83%, MC: 77

Finding Neverland: RT 83%, CotC 81%, MC 67

Million Dollar Baby: RT 94%, CotC 95%, MC 85

Ray: RT 82%, CotC 85%, MC 73

Sideways: RT 96%, CotC 97%, MC 94

 

As far as critics go, it has more favourable reviews than all but Sideways and M$B; more favourable reviews from elite critics than The Aviator, Finding Neverland and Ray; and overall stronger reviews than The Aviator, Finding Neverland and Ray.

 

Additionally, Spiderman 2 is ranked ninth when it comes to number of mentions in critics top ten lists (source). Sideways is #1 (closely followed by Eternal Sunshine), with a huge gap to The Aviator (#3), with Million Dollar Baby at #6, Finding Neverland at #13 and Ray at #20.

 

Unfortunately, a film like Spiderman 2 (or Harry Potter & The Prisoner of Azkaban, or The Incredibles) is unlikely to be a best picture nominee (or even a realistic contender) because of the inherant bias against the particular film genre (and towards sentimental tripe, for example the A Beautiful Mind win over Fellowship of the Ring, Gosford Park, In the Bedroom and Moulin Rouge!, as well as the unnominated Ghost World and Mulholland Drive) and target audience (given the average age of AMPAS members).

[Jingus 0]

But movies are a subjective artform, which makes all these decisions that much more difficult. For example, I do indeed think that Titanic was the best picture of 1997 (except for The Sweet Hereafter, but nevermind), and that A Beautiful Mind was a superior film to all the others you listed, with only Moulin Rouge even coming close in my opinion.

[Guest Vitamin X]

I don't believe cinema is as subjective an artform as say, music. That is extremely subjective, but in film it's pretty obvious when a movie is well-made or not regardless of whether I liked it. I think there are several films I can look at and didn't personally like, but can acknowledge they were well-made.

 

Ray, The Aviator, and Million Dollar Baby are good examples, except in the case of Ray, which was a very slow paced film and was carried by Jamie Foxx's performance.

[cabbageboy 0]

Moulin Rouge is just one of those movies I don't GET. The whole thing with busting out into Teen Spirit and everything else in 1900 Paris....I know it's trying to be anachronistic, but that's still stupid.

 

Guys, you have to realize that the Oscars are for so called prestige pictures, artsy stuff. And yes I know Eternal Sunshine is an artsy type flick but maybe the voters didn't think it was THAT good. Hell, I wasn't all that enthralled with it...I mean it was going ok but once Jim Carrey started hiding from the procedure with Kate's help I thought "This is getting really goofy."

 

Forget Spidey 2 being nominated for best picture...it's slow going stuff really, with a heel that is drastically underused. I go to see Spidey fight a megalomaniacal heel bent on taking over the world, with a bit of Peter Parker's personal life on the side...not a bunch of shit about his love life and woes with a little bit of Doc Ock thrown in. I think I liked Hellboy better, at least it balanced his love life crap with the action part of the plot. And no, Hellboy shouldn't get nominated either.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

But movies are a subjective artform, which makes all these decisions that much more difficult. For example, I do indeed think that Titanic was the best picture of 1997 (except for The Sweet Hereafter, but nevermind), and that A Beautiful Mind was a superior film to all the others you listed, with only Moulin Rouge even coming close in my opinion.

I agree totally on Beautiful Mind, and while I don't think Titanic is as bad as most believe, it certainly wasn't the best movie of 1997. L.A. Confidential was so superior to any movie made that year it's not even funny.

[Ripper 0]

I guess it is subjective because Rouge was the superior film in my eyes that year. Of course I didn't know it at the time cause I hadn't seen it yet, but having seen it now and looking back, it was better than the rest.

[Anakin Flair 0]

No Passion, No F9/11. Jeez, the Academy didn't want to fuck with anybody this year. I guess having Rock host was as PolInc as they were going to get.

Passion is in there for make-up or effects, I forget which.

 

And while I would LOVE Harry Potter to win Best Visual effects, everybody knows it's going to Spider-Man. The Dementors and Buckbeak will be no match for Dock Ock, or the Train Sequence.

[bob_barron 0]

Buckbeak and the Dementors>the visual effects in Spiderman 2.

 

I also like that John Williams' excellent score was nominated