HHH now is officially part of creative team

[dubq 0]

No, in general it's a problem. Wrestlers obviously have egos and are obviously biased towards themselves. It is a conflict of interest, period. Having ideas is great, but wrestlers should not have the final say on what goes down.

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Because he's on the TEAM does not mean he has FINAL say.

[Promoter 0]

No, in general it's a problem. Wrestlers obviously have egos and are obviously biased towards themselves. It is a conflict of interest, period. Having ideas is great, but wrestlers should not have the final say on what goes down.

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Because he's on the TEAM does not mean he has FINAL say.

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This sounds like a quote straight from Triple H on the Score network last fall

[CanadianChick 0]

But he shouldn't be on the TEAM which has the FINAL say. I don't even care that it's HHH himself. No wrestler should be on the writing team whether it's HHH, Jericho or Stevie Richards. It's a conflict of interest, plain and simple. Pitching ideas to the creative team is great, but a seperate group should be the one deciding because, ideally, they have the most fan-based perspective.

[snuffbox 0]

Its nice to see HHH still has a mark or two lingering around...

[WrestlingFan4Ever 0]

I don't like this, but at least Triple H isn't a Hollywood writer.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Its nice to see HHH still has a mark or two lingering around...

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I think it might be more a case of people wanting to play David to a Goliath.

[dubq 0]

Its nice to see HHH still has a mark or two lingering around...

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I hardly linger. I've been very vocal over the past few years about not jumping on the HHHating goon bandwagon.

[Guest Y2DAYDAY]

Funny how most say HHH should retire and not be involved in creative when he is one of the very few they have that have drawn money and understand how to draw money.

 

A guy with that makes talking look hard, with no charisma, that messes up half of his flippy moves won't draw money.

 

HHH really isn't involved with creative any more than he has been, which has been sitting in during backstage production meetings and pitching the occasional idea, usually for himself or Shawn Michaels(or recently, Hulk Hogan).

 

In fact, he has been at times very critical of the writers, specifically how bad they botched the Orton program with himself, leading to him booking him own program with Batista that just happened to not only save Mania but make it the biggest money show ever to this point.

 

If you get rid of HHH, things would only get worse that much faster, evident by this summer's TV as opposed to the excellent shows this year when he was around.

[Angle-plex 0]

Triple H on the writing team! Oh no! This means that we'll be seeing Triple H win the title numerous time within the next few years and challenge for the title at EVERY PPV too!

 

Yeah....it's not going to get much worse.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

To be fair, HHH never actually said he was a writer although Landsberg started the show stating so. HHH said he was just "helping" with creative 

 

No, HHH confirmed he was a writer. I remember it clearly.

[CanadianChick 0]

If you get rid of HHH, things would only get worse that much faster, evident by this summer's TV as opposed to the excellent shows this year when he was around.

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He's on the creative team now, with the shitty summer shows. I'm not blaming him obviously, but to say he improves to show is a flawed arguement since he's still technically part of it.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Who cares if HHH is a writer anyways, he's fucking the Director of Creative and his father in-law is Vince McMahon. The dude could be a fucking janitor with the WWE and have more influence than anyone else on the entire roster.

[Art Sandusky 0]

I don't get it. This is the prime directive of every criticism of him since the Angle storyline in 2000, and is used to trace such behavior back to Jericho's arrival in friggin' 1999. So what's the outrage?

[Black Lushus 0]

Triple H on the writing team! Oh no! This means that we'll be seeing Triple H win the title numerous time within the next few years and challenge for the title at EVERY PPV too!

 

Yeah....it's not going to get much worse.

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I thought the general consensus was that we were going to be seeing this ANYWAY...now it's confirmed...

[Team Angle Pusher 0]

We shouldn't think so bad about the man. He returned from his injury and he knew he had backstage power so he decided to use it. So he killed RVD or Scott Steiner, even more guys, in 2003. In 2004 he frigging jobbed to Chris Benoit when nobody expected it. Then he won it back yeah but he totally made Batista look MUCH better then him. He got beat on PPV three times in a row and now he's taking time off. I think HHH will probably become the World Champion again but he knows as well as Vince does that he can't be the champion forever and he'll need to put Cena over too. Now I only see one or two more World Title shots but not 6 runs and he will not headline every PPV. Maybe this will change him and he's going to make others a star (Chris Masters...), I don't think we should worry about another 2003.

[justcoz 0]

Remember all that backlash when I suggested HHH as a vital member of WWE creative in our "fantasy creative team" thread? Well, I stand by that opinion. I understand that having an active wrestler in a creative or booking role has a bad bad history. This isn't just an active wrestler though. This is someone that will eventually be running the freakin' company. This is someone that is a student of the game, not to sound like JR.

 

If he's going to be a running the company in twenty years then you have to get him involved in the process and not just booking his own angles for his own agenda. You have to see what he can offer creatively to others on the roster. Can he make people care about Shelton Benjamin and take that character from the smiling black babyface that gets a pop with just his flashy moves to the TO of WWE? Is he working with Jericho right now on his heel role with Cena? Is he in the ear of Matt Hardy and Edge? I don't think his involvement in creative is at that level yet but it needs to be very soon. He needs to retire or cut down his role to the legend that comes out for an occassional pop and take the head creative role from Stephanie. It would only improve the product. I doubt very much that he is a huge supporter of the current creative team that know nothing about the business. This is a man who watches old wrestling tapes for fucking fun and amusement and because he loves those old storylines and characters.

 

And for everyone who is on here saying, "oh yeah he buried shelton, wants to make Chris Masters a star, hates cruisers, etc. let's not forget that this is the man who jobbed to Shelton, gave Taka Michinoku perhaps his best WWF moment and pushed for Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrerro to be champions going into Wrestlemania 20 (supposedly along with Michaels). I want him out of the ring and in booking for christ sakes! And if he's no longer presented as "one of the boys" and is looked upon the same way as Vince and other McMahons, maybe there wouldn't be as much hostility from the locker room.

 

http://www.pittsburghnetradio.com

[Guest Frank_Nabbit]

Well the storylines couldn't get any worse, could they?

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Of cours it can...we still need to see pedophilia, an on-screen gangrape, and HHH winning every match at Wrestlemania.

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DX gang raped Steffi on raw

[Guest jumpingbombangel]

But they want to cry about it some more, Rudo. Same old, same old.

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You can't possibly think it's a good thing for your top wrestler to be on the writing team, do you?

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Oh, yes I can.

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Of course it's a good thing for him if it's his top guy.

 

For the rest of us, however, it just means even more diving into the depths of the steel trap that is HHH's mind...all on paper, all on your television screens. Oh, enjoy!

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

DX gang raped Steffi on raw

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It wasn't really her.

[NoCalMike 0]

Isn't WWE getting bad enough already to not even care how much it further declines? The company has been in "our PPV card will generate one random good match and a bunch of filler" mode for a good while now(excluding WMs).

 

I mean I understand all the criticism of Triple H, and why it is bad and all that, but it is not exactly like he is taking over a fantastic product where he might turn it into shit, it is already pretty awful most of the time, so all he will do is keep leading this abominable ship in the same direction, Triple H or Gerwitz, I see no difference.

[humongous2002 0]

Well I guess the Triple H championship dinasty will continue for 20 more years.

[Jericho2000Mark 0]

Well I guess the Triple H championship dinasty will continue for 20 more years.

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We already knew that three years ago...

[Danville_Wrestling 0]

Remember all that backlash when I suggested HHH as a vital member of WWE creative in our "fantasy creative team" thread?  Well, I stand by that opinion.  I understand that having an active wrestler in a creative or booking role has a bad bad history.  This isn't just an active wrestler though.  This is someone that will eventually be running the freakin' company.  This is someone that is a student of the game, not to sound like JR. 

 

If he's going to be a running the company in twenty years then you have to get him involved in the process and not just booking his own angles for his own agenda.  You have to see what he can offer creatively to others on the roster.  Can he make people care about Shelton Benjamin and take that character from the smiling black babyface that gets a pop with just his flashy moves to the TO of WWE?  Is he working with Jericho right now on his heel role with Cena?  Is he in the ear of Matt Hardy and Edge?  I don't think his involvement in creative is at that level yet but it needs to be very soon.  He needs to retire or cut down his role to the legend that comes out for an occassional pop and take the head creative role from Stephanie.  It would only improve the product.  I doubt very much that he is a huge supporter of the current creative team that know nothing about the business.  This is a man who watches old wrestling tapes for fucking fun and amusement and because he loves those old storylines and characters. 

 

And for everyone who is on here saying, "oh yeah he buried shelton, wants to make Chris Masters a star, hates cruisers, etc.  let's not forget that this is the man who jobbed to Shelton, gave Taka Michinoku perhaps his best WWF moment and pushed for Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrerro to be champions going into Wrestlemania 20 (supposedly along with Michaels).  I want him out of the ring and in booking for christ sakes!  And if he's no longer presented as "one of the boys" and is looked upon the same way as Vince and other McMahons, maybe there wouldn't be as much hostility from the locker room.

 

http://www.pittsburghnetradio.com

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VERY well stated arguement made here. I think you've won me over on why HHH may not be so bad on the writing team, just wanted you to know.

 

By the way, what's up with Shane McMahon anyway? The guy seems to be genuine and seems to have his head on his shoulders more than anyone else in the family. He's got a nice wife and a child and seems to live a very stable life. Why has he vanished from the picture? I'm not saying that he definitely needs to be the head of the creative team, but I miss Shane damn it.

[cabbageboy 0]

I wouldn't mind HHH being the main booker or writer if he himself wasn't wrestling. If he was booking I think the shows would at least get back to actual wrestling, since he's a fan of old NWA stuff.

 

There's really only so many more times he can do the whole "Win the title then job repeatedly and make someone a star" schtick.

[AndrewTS 0]

The buryings will continue until morale improves-uh.

[spman 0]

My personal opinion is whatever. I'd rather have someone like TIplre H who is at least fiamilliar with the product and it's history take the booking reigns then someone like Steph or the other writers they have now who have no knowledge of anything other then WWE and nothing before 1999. While it is true that being an active compeitor AND on the writing staff IS a conflict of interest, one has to wonder in his current state, how many more years as an active competitor he has left? Consider guys like Nash and Hogan who are 10 and 15 years older then Tirple H respectivly, and NEVER wrestled even a percentage as competitively as Triple H and both are basically gimps toay. One more blown quad for Triple H and that's it.

[Vyce 0]

While this isn't good when he decided to push himself and attempt to get no one else over but him, when he has to step aside, the fact remains that he loves the business and would want to do what's best for everyone in order to make money.

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This is sarcasm, right? Because after all this time, I just can't believe anyone would buy into that sort of bullshit.

 

HHH's opinion as to what's 'best for the business' equals 'what's best for HHH.' And it always will be.

[Promoter 0]

I agree with cabbageboy. Justcoz makes some valid points, but if friggin Vince Mcmahon saw the light that its best to stick with either doing wrestling or staying behind the scenes then so should HHH. It just has never worked to any great degree even when Flair tore up the rings in 1989. The real problem lies in not creating new GOOD-GREAT bookers and writers for their programming and having people "try" it at the wwe level. It's just ass-backwards. Stephanie probably would have been much better if she went through the ranks. Instead she started at the top and basically isn't questioned with her crap for the most part because she's a Mcmahon. The same thing will happen with HHH. At least from the rumours I read Dibase was smart enough to go to OVW and work his way back up because he admitted to being overwhelmed by how the company runs creative in today's environment.

[The Robfather 0]

Maybe creativity has been completely exhausted. Maybe there are no new ideas, no great stories to be told, or new stars to be made.

[Masked Man of Mystery 0]

Maybe creativity has been completely exhausted.  Maybe there are no new ideas, no great stories to be told, or new stars to be made.

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All you need is a basic storyline and bring the great wrestling, after all, what was Flair/Steamboat? Humble family man vs. the arrogant rich womanizer