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[Lord of The Curry 0]

Deon's crush on The Rock shines brightly through the darkness of him dropping his wrestling name.

[Guest wildpegasus]

Why should he? Rock's got nothing to gain from working w/ HBK. If Rock wants to come back & do a quick feud/match, he's earned the right to pick & choose who he'd want to work with. So he doesn't want to work with HBK - get over it.

 

No.

 

He's not a wrestler anymore, he's no longer under contract. He's an actor.

 

Again- get over it.

 

Look, I don't mean to insult anyone here but I think peope need a big time wakeup call. You talk about people getting over it. I'm going to be blunt here. Why don't you get over your snobnishness by automatically thinking that fans don't think Rock has a right to do whatever he wants?

 

Maybe people are correctly thinking that Rock making such a strong point to drop the name that made him what he is -- is indeed a slap to the face to anyone of his fans. Especially if Rock is doing it because he believes that the wrestling gimmick name will hamper his career. Now I don't know if he is intentionally doing that but he's no doubt smart enough to know that it is an insult to the fans.

 

Does Rock have the right to do this? Of course!

Are fans selfish if they think Rock should have to keep the Rock name somewhat? Yes, they are!

Is the Rock slapping the fans across the face? Yes, without a doubt

Do fans have a right to feel upset over that? Yes

Are wrestling fans being too snobbish on TSM by thinking they're beyond wresting and the emotions of being slapped in the face like the lower marks of the IWC? Yes!

Is the Rock making a good move for his career by doing this? Highly doubtful.

 

The world isn't black and white.

[bob_barron 0]

Then his movies will flop and he'll come crawling back just like everybody else, so once again, no.

 

The Rock has a movie coming out this week, Southland Tales coming out whenever, and he has two movies upcoming.

 

He's made more then enough money to never have to wrestle a day in his life.

 

He's done with wrestling- he's an ACTOR now.

[Guest whizzo]

Personaly I think its a good thing. I never could take him seriously when he was calling himself "The Rock". Thats basicly the name of the charachter he played in his first TV show.

[bob_barron 0]

Why don't you get over your snobnishness by automatically thinking that fans don't think Rock has a right to do whatever he wants?

 

Because these people are being stupid.

 

Maybe people are correctly thinking that Rock making such a strong point to drop the name that made him what he is -- is indeed a slap to the face to anyone of his fans.

 

It's not a slap in the face to his fans at all. He's still using the name, but it's now as Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. He wants to be taken seriously as an actor, and I applaud him for it. I hope that one day, he can sell a movie as just Dwayne Johnson.

 

Now I don't know if he is intentionally doing that but he's no doubt smart enough to know that it is an insult to the fans.

 

After all he's given to the business, for the fans to be insulted by that shows how ungreatful and idiotic they are.

 

Is the Rock slapping the fans across the face? Yes, without a doubt

 

Absolutely not

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Bob, most of the fans are "Me first!" types who will love a performer until he/she leaves then throw him/her under the bus. It's the fickle nature of the business. Not that it's right, but there it is.

 

Rock had nothing left to accomplish in the WWE. The HBK match would be counterproductive because the only person that would benefit from the match would be HBK, and the Rock won't give him that satisfaction. Even if it's unprofessional, I think the Rock and his zillion jobs over the years has earned him a playground clause-type situation like Foley did. I believe that the only people left that Rock's somewhat interested in working with are guys like Cena or Orton (maybe not) or someone like that. Someone that Rock would see has potential to get over, and wants to help him out. He certainly has the right to do that.

[Timmy8271 0]

According to Mike Johnson, Greg Gagne has been fired from his job in OVW. He will be replaced by Al Snow and Danny Davis until they find a replacement.

[The Amazing Rando 0]

Is the Rock slapping the fans across the face? Yes, without a doubt

Is the Rock making a good move for his career by doing this? Highly doubtful.

 

 

He's not slapping any fan across the face. If Henry Winkler would have tried to make a movie in 1985 or 86 (a year or two after Happy Days ended and after he had been on TV for other projects, most of which were spinoffs or Happy Days related) and had been told "Oh, we are going to put your name on the film as 'Fonzie' because that is what the public knows you as, he would have laughed in their face and rightfully so.

 

THE ROCK isn't an actor. THE ROCK is a wrestler. The problem is that he had Vince hanging over him and was told that his name in the credits would be "The Rock". Does he still use the name when doing wrestling-related promotions (like him appearing during Raw in commercial spots), sure. Did he play "Hollywood Heel" when he came back in 2002 en route to being destroyed by Brock? Yes he did, and you know why. He had Vince hanging over him, and he knew the crowd was going to boo him for "leaving them", the same thing you seem to be whining about four years later.

 

I do not think he minds WRESTLING FANS coming up to him and going "Oh my god, it's the Rock!" especially the younger and more markish of them, but when he is approached by the press or anyone else outside of that business, I would think he would want to be addressed by his real name rather than a character. It is not going to affect his career whatsoever. Asking to be called by his real name won't change his acting ability or his star power. Even if it isn't what he wants, there will always be people that see him as "The Rock", no matter what. He played that character in front of millions of people week in and week out for 7 or 8 years during one of wrestling's largest periods of popularity.

 

He might not have his name attached to some huge billion-dollar blockbuster, but I don't think even he was expecting himself to be some A-list megastar this soon into his film career. He's been doing films for five years and has mostly been in smaller roles or been in buddy action flicks. Walking Tall and Doom were never going to be huge star-creating films, no matter who they put in those roles. Gridiron Gang could be a hit though, and has him doing more of a dramatic mentor role than a "i'm going to blow shit up and kill you" role.

 

 

Oh, and will I and other people still probably call him The Rock in conversation and on this messageboard, probably, because it's easier. I doubt he'll give a shit.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

The HBK match would be counterproductive because the only person that would benefit from the match would be HBK, and the Rock won't give him that satisfaction.

Also, who's to say HBK doesn't get all dickish by wildly overselling Rock's offense like he did in the Hogan match?

 

Plus, if you want to talk "dream match", I'd rather see Rock/Rey. That'd be way better than Rock/HBK.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Some people in the debate over Rock/Dwayne leaving wrestling have displayed an incredible level of selfishness and shown that all they care about is what someone can do for them. How dare Dwayne do what is best for himself, his career and his family. How dare he take working 250 days a year, taking bumps every night, being on the road every night, being away from his family every night, risking serious injury every night and trade it in for earning more money for himself and his family for less risk and less time away from the people he loves. Man, he is one selfish bastard for putting himself and his family first.

 

More on the heat between Rock and Shawn:

 

Early in the Rock’s run in 1997, Bret was booked to beat Rock clean via submission. The finish was heavily pushed for by Shawn and Hunter, because Hunter and Rock were vying for the same spot and they wanted to take Rock down a peg, and were also bad mouthing him to everyone. Bret knew why they pushed for the finish but he also saw Rock as the future and he felt there was no reason to beat him clean so he changed the finish to a DQ or something. Rock never forgot this and it’s a big reason why Bret is one of the people that he’ll speak very highly of.

[The Niggardly King 0]

There are really only a few things Rock wants to do anyway... if he ever does make an appearance. Put over Mysterio at a Wrestlemania, though who knows... he might have lost respect for Rey, since Rock hates the Eddie stuff. Put over Sting at a Mania... that will never happen. Maybe even put over Cena later on, since he likes the guy's attitude and work ethic.

 

The Rock's still a wrestling fan, he watches old tapes when he's not busy on set. He just hates the direction WWE has gone into since Eddie's passing. It would take a lot to even get The Rock to make a small appearance if they're ever in the area.

 

I'm sure The Rock isn't done though... I doubt he wants his last appearance with the company to have been putting over Eugene.

[BUTT 0]

It's just that same thing John Mellencamp did when he switched from "John Cougar" to his real name. It's just a name. Get over it. If you're asking a guy to limit his career potential by demanding that he continue to use his wrestling nickname in his professional work, yeah, that is selfish. Besides, this is a risk for Rock. He's dropping the name that everyone knows him by in favor of his real name (and really, how many Dwaynes do you know how have become superstars?). For all we know, it could be his management asking for this name change. Or maybe it isn't, who knows or cares?

[Open the Muggy Gate 0]

Deon... GET THE FUCK OVER IT! He's been gone for a while. I'm used to it. I'll still have quite a few of his great matches on DVDs and tapes. I'm content with what he's done with his career. If he wants to go by Dwayne Johnson, so be it. It may not work because he's been known as The Rock for so long, but he's at least going to try. I wish nothing but the best for Dwayne, the Rock, or whatever you want to call him. It's his choice.

 

I may go see Gridiron Gang and see how it is. Doesn't look THAT bad.

[Danville_Wrestling 0]

According to Mike Johnson, Greg Gagne has been fired from his job in OVW. He will be replaced by Al Snow and Danny Davis until they find a replacement.

 

Anyone know the reason for this? I didn't think he was doing too bad of a job...then again that might be why he's getting the boot.

[Dips 0]

Where have people got it that The Rock doesn't like the direction WWE has taken since Eddie's passing? I never saw that anywhere.

[Guest Hotbutter Spoontoaster]

Smackdown on Friday did a 1.0 rating. That is not a misprint. The rating being far lower than the previous all-time record low is largely because it was so heavily pre-empted. They have one more week like this. The good news is they will never get this low again in the foreseeable future.

 

Mike Rotunda got an interview at Raw on Monday for a job as a road agent.

[bob_barron 0]

--Dwayne Johnson is all over the place the next three days doing promotional work for "Gridiron Gang." He'll be on Letterman tonight, Regis & Kelly tomorrow morning, TRL on MTV at 3:30 p.m. tomorrow, Conan O'Brien tomorrow night, The Early Show on CBS at 7 a.m. Friday and on Ellen DeGeneres on Friday. He was on ESPN 2's Cold Pizza this moring, talking about playing football at the University of Miami. He said he has no plans to return to wrestling but that he misses performing before the live crowds. When asked if there was anything that could get him to come back to wrestling, and he said there wasn't. He said he accomplished all he could in wrestling and wanted new challenges. (thanks to Terri Bey and Phillip Lee)

 

Dwayne Johnson should hang himself for how he's betrayed wrestling fans

[razazteca 0]

Well I don't want to see his tired act of being a low rate Elvis impersonator on tv anytime soon....the Fat Elvis that works for TNA better.

[Cheech Tremendous 0]

The Rock is no longer a wrestler who does movies. He is an actor that used to wrestle. That's an important difference.

 

He has always handled himself as a class act. He has come back multiple times to put over young talent, and he always has nice words about his previous career. He's moved on to bigger and better things, and he's done it quietly and respectfully. He hasn't demanded a huge retirement celebration, or come back just to plug his films, or asked for big money to do dream matches once a year. Wrestling fans should be grateful for all that he offered when he was around, and how much he did for the respectability and acceptance of the sport in the mainstream.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Responding to Muggy: For the last time, NO!

 

Now switching topics, instead of starting another thread, I need your guys opinions on settling an argument between me and my friend on which match is better?

 

1.) Chris Benoit Vs. Kurt Angle @ RR 2003 or Kurt Angle Vs. Shawn Michaels @ WM XXI?

 

2.) Elimination Chamber @ SSeries 2002 or Elimination Chamber @ NYR 2005?

 

3.) Bret Hart Vs. The Undertaker @ One Night Only or Kurt Angle Vs. The Undertaker @ No Way Out 2006?

 

Thanks in advance for your feedback.

[bob_barron 0]

Why can't you accept that Rock is done with wrestling and is now an actor? This is the guy who has done a lot for wrestling, and doesn't deserve your contempt.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

MOVING ON

[The Niggardly King 0]

Where have people got it that The Rock doesn't like the direction WWE has taken since Eddie's passing? I never saw that anywhere.

 

An interview I read while he was on the set of Southland Tales I believe... might have been Gridiron Gang.

[mfn 0]

So... I'm ordering WWE 24/7 right now.

It better be worth it

[bob_barron 0]

Gridiron Gang and Southland Tales were both filmed when Eddy was still alive.

[The Niggardly King 0]

Gridiron Gang and Southland Tales were both filmed when Eddy was still alive.

 

Spy Hunter then... or maybe when he was promoting the two other movies... I just remember him saying how they handled it turned him off from the WWE...

[gWIL 0]

Responding to Muggy: For the last time, NO!

 

Now switching topics, instead of starting another thread, I need your guys opinions on settling an argument between me and my friend on which match is better?

 

1.) Chris Benoit Vs. Kurt Angle @ RR 2003 or Kurt Angle Vs. Shawn Michaels @ WM XXI?

 

2.) Elimination Chamber @ SSeries 2002 or Elimination Chamber @ NYR 2005?

 

3.) Bret Hart Vs. The Undertaker @ One Night Only or Kurt Angle Vs. The Undertaker @ No Way Out 2006?

 

Thanks in advance for your feedback.

[Guest NYankees]

MSG classics tonight has Macho Man vrs the Millian Dollar Man from 1988 and Undertaker vrs HHH from august 2002 in a number 1 contenders match.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

Gridiron Gang and Southland Tales were both filmed when Eddy was still alive.

 

Spy Hunter then... or maybe when he was promoting the two other movies... I just remember him saying how they handled it turned him off from the WWE...

 

Hes on the cover of the new Spy Hunter game too.

[Quasar 0]

So, I'm looking at the ROH Glory By Honor V thread and something jumped out at me:

 

 

WWWF legend Bruno Sammartino will appearing on day 2 of GBH weekend. It's weird to see Bruno involved with ROH, mainly because of Sammartino's love of kayfabe and related things. You'd think that Sammartino would stay far away from ROH mainly because kayfabe in ROH is dead and buried 12 feet under.