Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 boy the next series will suck for the Clips, it'll basically be a road series all 7 games. Hence me saying the Lakers are already in the WCF. It's just a matter of Spurs or Mavs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Felonies! Report post Posted April 30, 2006 It also wouldn't make sense for the NBA to screw their own MVP. That makes THEM look bad. This guy seems familiar... I'm thinking Johnson. Hit him with a flagrant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 Never count out the Lakers real MVP in a close game in crunch time....... Even still Kobe did hit two high pressure shots inside of a second left on the clock in regulartion & OT AND the Suns choked up a 5 point lead inside of 10 seconds. Nash got facialed by a Smush three and then fell to the ground when Smush ripped him. If he would have just stood still Parker would have fouled him, but he tried to make a move and fumbled the ball. Phoenix deserved the victory, but they made some bad, bad plays in addition to getting bent over and taking it anally with no lube by the refs. Well don't get me wrong, I never doubt Kobe's ability. It's not like I didn't almost know the Lakers were winning once it got into Bryant's hands, but like I was saying to Dangerous_A on the phone about a minute into OT, if the Lakers are in any kind of position to win as the clock is winding down, the Officials were do what they have to do to make sure the Lakers determine the outcome of the game. Hence, that exact scenario playing out by them ignoring two fouls and an obvious timeout to set up a Walton vs. Nash jump ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just John 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 Well, my one comfort is that the Clippers legitimately owned the Lakers in the regular season. Of course, that means shit when the playoffs roll around. Especially against the Lakers. They'll have to play to win by 10+ just so they have a shot at sqeaking by with a 2-3 point victory, because you know the Clippers will get ZERO favorable calls. None. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 boy the next series will suck for the Clips, it'll basically be a road series all 7 games. Not necessarily as the season ticket holders for the Clippers will have the seats for the Clippers "home" games of the series. I can't stand Kobe or the Lakers but I do have this perverse need to see a Clippers/Lakers playoff series just from that odd atmosphere of playing an entire series on the same floor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 Let me tell you something. I think the Lakers will beat the Clippers 4-1, if not sweep them. The Clippers are the walking dead. It wouldn't surprise me to see a Mavs-Lakers WCF, especially if SA gets into a war with Sac trying to advance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kobe24KGold Report post Posted April 30, 2006 Alright, for all of you guys screaming bloody murder, I just saw a reverse angle of the play in question on TNT. It was the right call. I think. Nash dribbled into a corner, AGAIN, and was trapped by two men on both sides. There wasn't any egregious contact, and with the way Luke Walton's left-arm was extended, FROM THE REFEREE's POINT OF VIEW, made it seem like a legitimate play. Even Kenny and Charles, who is a noted Laker hater (didn't even have Kobe in the top 10 for the NBA 60 list) had no issues with the call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Robfather 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 Oh, the Clippers are done, no doubt about it. And the Lakers make out because the Mavs are pushed into the Spurs bracket. Gotta love how things work out for those fuckers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 So...when did TSM start allowing all pbp's back into the fold? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 Funny the refs swallow their whistles when Nash has the ball at the end of regulation, but when Boris Diaw had it, they had no problem calling the foul. And Nash getting humped by two guys in OT, but its a jumpall, just ignore Nash calling timeout. Fuck the Laker Refs; I can't believe this shit still happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Robfather 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 Well, then fuck Kenny and Charles for contributing to the fiction we just witnessed today if they said there wasn't a foul on that play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 Well, then fuck Kenny and Charles for contributing to the fiction we just witnessed today if they said there wasn't a foul on that play. If you see the play from behind NO ONE TOUCHED NASH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 How the hell are you going to see someone touch somebody from behind? Thats like saying "If you had your eyes closed, you can see that NO ONE TOUCHED NASH." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kobe24KGold Report post Posted April 30, 2006 Well, then fuck Kenny and Charles for contributing to the fiction we just witnessed today if they said there wasn't a foul on that play. If you're trying to make the argument that they're protecting the NBA Superstars, then why did they all just unanimously agree that the Lebron shot was an obvious travel? Like I said, the reverse angle on TNT made it seem like there was minimal contact, and that it was a good defensive play by the Lakers. Even Nash, in the post game interview, said that Boris Diaw tried to call a timeout (obviously, too late), not him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Robfather 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 Saw Nash on TNT a bit ago... "It wasn't meant to be" ? Good lord. The Suns are taking the high road. Call them Fakers Refs out. At least stand up for yourself. Meh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 How the hell are you going to see someone touch somebody from behind? Thats like saying "If you had your eyes closed, you can see that NO ONE TOUCHED NASH." Dude, you're a fucking moron. Watch TNT's footage from the rear camera angle aka the ref's line of sight. Walton swipes at the air twice, and brushes Nash's arm as he then ties up the ball. Odom's hands are nowhere to be seen on Nash's body, or the ball for that matter. If Steve hadn't ducked his head to the floor to call timeout, or dribbled into the same corner making the same critical mistake twice in one game he wouldn't have coughed up the victory twice. Having said that, he would have gotten the call in Phoenix, and Kobe would have gotten a foul called if he had the ball in that same situation on that court. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kobe24KGold Report post Posted April 30, 2006 Well, then fuck Kenny and Charles for contributing to the fiction we just witnessed today if they said there wasn't a foul on that play. If you see the play from behind NO ONE TOUCHED NASH. Yep. The angle that TNT showed was the angle that the ref saw, and it was the right call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 apparently, nash is saying he didnt try to call a timeout, it was Diaw calling it. At one point Diaw points to the ref I dont know if that was when he called it or not, but by that time, lakers had a hand on the ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 How the hell are you going to see someone touch somebody from behind? Thats like saying "If you had your eyes closed, you can see that NO ONE TOUCHED NASH." Dude, you're a fucking moron. Watch TNT's footage from the rear camera angle aka the ref's line of sight. Walton swipes at the air twice, and brushes Nash's arm as he then ties up the ball. Odom's hands are nowhere to be seen on Nash's body, or the ball for that matter. If Steve hadn't ducked his head to the floor to call timeout, or dribbled into the same corner making the same critical mistake twice in one game he wouldn't have coughed up the victory twice. Having said that, he would have gotten the call in Phoenix, and Kobe would have gotten a foul called if he had the ball in that same situation on that court. Go fuck yourself my man. Secondly, I had no idea all the refs were behind the play. Since when do all refs lineup behind the play? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 The Lakers are one of ESPN's favorite teams which makes this even more sickening. If they make it to the finals the Kobe love-fest will be horrible. At least Steve Nash was able to win the MVP without ref help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 Never count out the Lakers real MVP in a close game in crunch time....... Even still Kobe did hit two high pressure shots inside of a second left on the clock in regulation & OT AND the Suns choked up a 5 point lead inside of 10 seconds. Nash got facialed by a Smush three and then fell to the ground when Smush ripped him. If he would have just stood still Parker would have fouled him, but he tried to make a move and fumbled the ball. Phoenix deserved the victory, but they made some bad, bad plays in addition to getting bent over and taking it anally with no lube by the refs. But see the thing is, those are basketball plays. Shit happens. People make turnovers. People get shots made in their face. That happens. what shouldn't happen is ignoring time outs being called and intentional fouls. That is extremely ridiculous. Hell, not calling a arm tug on a lob is understandable. I don't like it, but he. THAT happens. But seriously. I have been watching basketball for over 20 years now. Now maybe it happened in those early years when I didn't understand everything, but I have NEVER...in my history of ever watching basketball watched the refs NO CALL a intentional foul by multiple players. EVER. That is just plain disgusting. ANd reading some recaps of the game, you guys are right its all about how great Kobe was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Robfather 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 The only way you can beat the Fakers is to build a big lead and keep the game from being decided by the refs. I don't see the Clippers being about to do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kobe24KGold Report post Posted April 30, 2006 Never count out the Lakers real MVP in a close game in crunch time....... Even still Kobe did hit two high pressure shots inside of a second left on the clock in regulation & OT AND the Suns choked up a 5 point lead inside of 10 seconds. Nash got facialed by a Smush three and then fell to the ground when Smush ripped him. If he would have just stood still Parker would have fouled him, but he tried to make a move and fumbled the ball. Phoenix deserved the victory, but they made some bad, bad plays in addition to getting bent over and taking it anally with no lube by the refs. But see the thing is, those are basketball plays. Shit happens. People make turnovers. People get shots made in their face. That happens. what shouldn't happen is ignoring time outs being called and intentional fouls. That is extremely ridiculous. Hell, not calling a arm tug on a lob is understandable. I don't like it, but he. THAT happens. But seriously. I have been watching basketball for over 20 years now. Now maybe it happened in those early years when I didn't understand everything, but I have NEVER...in my history of ever watching basketball watched the refs NO CALL a intentional foul by multiple players. EVER. That is just plain disgusting. ANd reading some recaps of the game, you guys are right its all about how great Kobe was. Did you EVEN see the rear angle that TNT showed? It owned all the haters. Stop crying. Geez. There's no conspiratorial crap going on; it was the CORRECT call. Nash didn't even call a timout, Boris Diaw tried to, but it was late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 Secondly, I had no idea all the refs were behind the play. Since when do all refs lineup behind the play? Do you actually watch basketball? There are only 3 refs. One was under the Suns hoop, where he's supposed to be. The second guy is on the far side of the court by the scorer's table where he's supposed to be. The third guy is trailing the play, as he should be, and was the one in question. Obviously the trail official will be behind the play. The other two guys are not going to make a call that's 40 something feet away from them, especially when Odom is shielding the guy under the hoop, and Walton's blocking the far side guy's line of sight. That's like asking the 3rd base ump to call a play down the right field line simply because he's an ump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 30, 2006 All the calls going Phoenix's way. Odom and Kobe with 2 fouls apiece. Something tells me the NBA doesn't want it's MVP to go out in the first round... Oh stop it. This game is being called tight on both ends because of the physical nature of the last game. Barbosa, Marion, and Bell all have 2-3 fouls a piece on really ticky tacky stuff. its being called like games 1-2 were called. Once I finish reading through the thread, I'll reply more, but YOU STOP IT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Felonies! Report post Posted April 30, 2006 So...when did TSM start allowing all pbp's back into the fold? Since we made a "no PBPs" rule. Yeah I don't get it either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Robfather 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 The league is unwatchable. The NBA has along ago descended into WWF scripting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kobe24KGold Report post Posted April 30, 2006 Secondly, I had no idea all the refs were behind the play. Since when do all refs lineup behind the play? Do you actually watch basketball? There are only 3 refs. One was under the Suns hoop, where he's supposed to be. The second guy is on the far side of the court by the scorer's table where he's supposed to be. The third guy is trailing the play, as he should be, and was the one in question. Obviously the trail official will be behind the play. The other two guys are not going to make a call that's 40 something feet away from them, especially when Odom is shielding the guy under the hoop, and Walton's blocking the far side guy's line of sight. That's like asking the 3rd base ump to call a play down the right field line simply because he's an ump. Naif knows his shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 It didn't stop officials from calling bullshit fouls throughout the game. If Mike Breen and Hubie Brown can see some contact, i'm sure any official from any side can see as well. What you're failing to realize is that you don't need arms to make contact. You're telling me that neither Laker pushed Nash with their body? Bullshit. It's the reason why he was about to fall, because Nash doesn't fall for no reason at all. And yeah, Kobe got five fouls. But hey, once you get five fouls if you're Kobe or Shaq, you're good, because they'll never call the sixth. Unlike Marion, who even before he fouled out, got called for a bullshit call on a clean block on Kobe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2006 So...when did TSM start allowing all pbp's back into the fold? when the grammar nazis left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
