Guest THE MIGHTY THOR Report post Posted October 20, 2003 RVD SAYS HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT IC TITLE, TALKS ABOUT HIS PAST, AND MORE by Sir Adam This week the Whole F’n show joined Get in the Ring Radio for the whole F’n show! Listen to our whole F’n Show every F’n Sunday at 7pm Eastern 540 AM WLIE or live streaming audio at our new and improved www.getinthering.tv Interviews with Steve Austin, Kurt Angle, and more are coming in the next few weeks!! -RVD settles an argument between Sir Adam and the Phantom. Phantom believes RVD is too young to be considered a legend; Rob says that everyone can find him on a video game called “Legends of Wrestling”. Talk turns to Rob’s comic book shop www.5starcomics.com in California, as well as his association with www.noodlesoup.net as he is writing his own comic book series. “Twisted Perception” is the name of the book. -Rob recently ran down a purse snatcher in the mall where his comic book store is located. He used “intimidation” on the thief to get the purse back to its owner. -Phantom talks about how now RVD is more famous than Jean Claude Van Dam, the guy he was named after in 1991. RVD says “Jean Claude who??” Rob says he was given the name by a promoter, and he was so green, he could have been called “Joe Blow” and he would have gone with it. He says he got trained not to worry about his gimmick first, but to worry about his in ring skills. Rob loves being recognized by the fans on the street, doesn’t think it’s a pain in the ass at all, he loves “the positive energy” -RVD seems like he isn’t that jazzed about being the IC champ. “For the most part I don’t care; I’ve had this Intercontinental Belt I don’t know how many times. I read somewhere I beat Benoit for it 3 times, I don’t even know if that’s true, if it is I must have had it 5 times. I’ve had the Hardcore Title, the European Tile, the Tag Titles, the only one I haven’t had is the World Heavyweight Title.” Phantom then bring up that Kevin Kelly mentioned on a GIR interview that RVD was once penciled in to win the Heavyweight belt, “But a guy with 3 initials in his name made sure (he) didn’t”. RVD laughs, says “’Nuff said, I think I know who you are talking about its 3 letters and it’s not RVD”. -Talk turns to websites and newsletters and RVD claims to not “put anything into the websites and different reports, because they sometimes are so far off from the truth it’s ridiculous….sometimes you can’t help develop negative feelings towards someone who writes lies about you….. When I first got into the WWE… 1wrestling.com’s writer kept telling me how foolish I was for thinking I was going to get into the WWE.” RVD claims that the writer (never mentioned by name) wrote that in the office he and the other staff members would laugh about how they thought Rob was “burying himself”. Rob thought it was funny that the writer thought he had any say in anything whatsoever; because his job is just to report the news. Talk turns to when Rob “went round and round” with the same site when they claimed he was injured filming Black Mask 2, and Rob was saying that he was fine. “That’s the thing, if it’s coming out of my mouth and I’m telling you I’m fine. How can someone argue with me and say ‘No you’re not. You are not fine’” Note: For the record no one here at 1Wrestling.com has any idea what Rob is talking about. The only siuation that we ever had with RVD was when Buck Woodward correctly reported that Rob had hurt his knee filming a movie in Thailand and Rob didn’t want the news to get out because he was talking contract with WWE. Other than that, we have no idea what Rob is talking about. -Sir Adam asks where RVD thinks these rumors get started on websites and newsletters. Rob feels it might start from two wrestlers talking to each other, “you talk about speculation, obviously when I came into the WWE, and I was hurting people. They were getting hurt bad, but if they can’t take getting hurt they shouldn’t be in this business in the first place. That’s how the Original Sheik trained me and I told that to Vince and he agreed with me. But none the less I was living up to my reputation of busting people up every night….some people are going to talk about that, but they aren’t the people who can fine me, suspend me, or even reprimand me. They are the other boys saying ‘Look at RVD he got someone good’ so the internet started putting these rumors around saying that the WWE was ‘thinking about getting rid of RVD’ which was never ever true, or they said ‘RVD is going to get sent to OVW to learn not to hurt people’ they sensationalized this so much, that people would ask me ‘are you really getting in all that trouble at work??’ Heck no! I never got in any trouble.” Phantom asks if anything changed in his style, because recently talk of Rob hurting people has died down considerably. RVD feels nothing really has changed other than the WWE was putting him into hardcore matches at the beginning and not so much anymore. “In a hardcore match the environment is different… you are going to get busted open…I don’t even consider a busted up eye or a little blood an injury because you can still work the next day and it’s no big deal, whether you get stitches or not. Now put me in a ladder match there is a great chance someone is going to get busted open again.” -Sir Adam asks if other guys ever try to shoot on RVD because they get mad at him busting them up “Maybe when I was green at the start, there were some wrestlers who tried to get over on me. But now, no, the man that I am right now, nobody challenges that.” -Talk turns to Rob’s renegotiation of his contract. RVD has not “entered any kind of talk at this point about renegotiation. All that has come up so far is that my contract will be expiring…it’s not soon it’s sometime down the road. And that we should start talks soon”. -RVD stretches every night before his matches, “for a good 45 minutes before a match”, and claims he’s the only superstar who does that. He says that’s one of the reasons he’s able to stay injury free. “I’ve always been a fighter; I got into martial arts, kickboxing. I kept testing myself, and once I got comfortable enough with what I got, that’s the coolness that comes out with RVD.” -Phantom says he used to enjoy Rob’s laid back promos that he did when he first joined the WWE and was in the Alliance. He mentions when he was late to the ring, and Stone Cold yelled at him about it, RVD says, “That was a shoot, I was really late. That was not planned or scripted. And all the other stuff that they gave, it’s always been an argumentative state when I do promos. One what they have me say.. is either ridiculous or it isn’t something I would say, something that would get RVD over to the fans. RVD isn’t the same character that he was in ECW, and he can’t be ECW was a time that’s gone and I can hang on to as much of it as I can. Usually when it comes to my lines they usually have me say ‘COOL’ and that’s it. They don’t get me, that’s all they know about me. Then the critics come down on me that I don’t know how to talk. But, that’s what they give me to say, listen to this radio interview this is how I really talk.” Sir Adam says that one Raw show had RVD running down to the ring to beat someone up and he felt that RVD would never do that. “Sometimes it’s like you guys sitting in that studio, it’s a J-O-B….We do this 4 nights a week, and sometimes it’s all right to come out there and have a match that’s not easy, but you move on to the next night sometimes that’s alright. It’s not like in ECW when RVD was the whole F’n show that meant every night I would bust my ass, I would go out there and have a PPV caliber match every night. No matter how many people were there if there were cameras, and that’s how I built up my fan base. And to tell you the truth sometimes I miss those times.” -Phantom asks if RVD if some of the WWE power brokers backstage watch the way the fans respond to RVD, despite almost no push, storyline etc. and kind of scratch their heads, and get their feathers ruffled saying, ‘Why the hell do they love him so much we are doing the best we can to keep him mid-card at best and he’s getting a bigger reaction than some of the main event guys’. RVD responds, “They don’t ask me that, but I ‘m sure they are asking each other, what the hell can we do to keep this guy down?” Sir Adam says that one of the reasons he still buys WWE PPVs is that he knows RVD will always put on a good match no matter what. “They knew I was different when I came in that my attitude, the way I carry myself, my values were a little different than anyone else. They think I’m different and unique. But instead of thinking that’s a good business strategy, they tried to make me more like the preconceived notion of what a wrestler should be. I kept hearing ‘tone it down you’re going to get hurt you can’t keep wrestling that reckless style. We’re not even going to give you a chance until you slow it down.’ And now after 2 years of not getting hurt they say ‘Wow you must be made of rubber’, what did I tell them from the start??” -RVD says he’d like to wrestle “the guy who’s on top” no one in particular he’d like to feud with. “Because that’s how you get the most money, and the most recognition”. His favorite matches in ECW were against Sabu and Jerry Lynn and since being in WWE he liked working with Jeff Hardy and Christian. “Those guys aren’t in that top position we were talking about, but if I can be showcased against those type of guys and get people talking. Because that’s what it really is a showcase of what I can do in the ring.” -RVD used to ride with Shawn Stasiak when he was in WWE. He felt that WWE cut him for financial reasons, and the “Financial situation of the WWE seems to be diminishing. Since I’ve been there in the last 2 years they’ve made many cuts, whether if it was letting office people go, or some of the boys. Or even asking the boys to take a lower guarantee then they were originally.” Phantom asks if they ever asked RVD to take a pay cut, to which RVD says “they’ve never asked me specifically and I would imagine it wouldn’t…there was a time when if you didn’t want to work for one company you’d get another company to bid against each other to get you. Now there’s none of that if you want to be a successful wrestler you have to work for Vince, especially in the United States.” -RVD claims he never gets heat for any media interviews he does. He claims in ECW he had “a no heat clause.” Phantom remembers when Sir Adam and himself attended an ECW show in Queens and RVD got so excited when High Times magazine came backstage to interview him. “That’s where RVD 4:20 all started, in Queens, that’s where the ball started rolling guys”. Phantom asks if RVD thinks marijuana should be legalized. “Of course, anybody who studies about it will read about …it’s not a gateway drug the only reason it’s considered a gateway drug because through education you are lied to as a child. And it’s categorized with the harmful drugs like heroin, LSD, of course they are going to try other things after they find out marijuana isn’t all that bad. It’s how it’s classified. The truth is that the benefits far outweighs the negatives of marijuana.” Phantom asks if he ever smokes before he wrestles to which Rob responds “You can’t do that legally. Let’s stick with the RVD stretch routine and call it a day.” Sir Adam asks if RVD voted in the recall election to which Rob responds “They changed my polling location and being the last minute guy I am, I missed the deadline…let’s just say I’m happy with the way things turned out.” Phantom says he could see in the next 10 years RVD as governor to which Rob responds “If you watch the way I practice politics in the WWE, you’d see it’s not my thing.” -RVD stayed in ECW rather than taking a WCW offer because he really thought it was going to take off. “ECW was taking care of me…allot of people assume that if you worked for ECW you made no money. But because I was the top guy they gave me a good contract and because they went bankrupt it turned out not being as good as I hoped. By me staying in ECW and not going somewhere else and selling out I built up my character in the environment I wanted to. If I was to fade away and turn more and more into a typical wrestler (in WWE), thank god for ECW DVD’s so fans can still see what I used to do.” Sir Adam mentions his favorite RVD match being a tag with Sabu against Gado and Jado, “Me and Sabu really had each other’s backs in situations like that”. Phantom mentions RVD’s match with Bam Bam Bigelow for the TV title, “again thank God for DVD”. Talk turns to Taz, “He’s enjoying the position as commentator. Allot of the guys that came from ECW had to adjust to the WWE, and I’m not saying Taz couldn’t adjust but it does appear that he fits into the role better now, then if he was just another WWE wrestler.” Sir Adam asks if it’s true that Paul Heyman was able to emphasize wrestler strengths over their weaknesses and that’s why some came over to the WWE and didn’t work out as well as in ECW “In the WWE you’re entire job is different, the parameters you are working with, what you are planning on achieving, the story you are going to tell. In ECW it was considered, by the wrestling community, reckless, because if you were the 1st or 2nd match on the card you could steal the show, you had no parameters. IF you think you could go out there and steal the show, don’t worry about toning it down to save for the rest of the card. You could go out there and do every move in the book if you think it can get you over. Which of course it doesn’t, you can’t just go out there and do every moonsault and expect the fans to love you. You have to make sense, that’s how they would learn, even on a PPV moment Paul Heyman would say to me ‘Go out there and steal the show’, it was all up to me. But, you had to earn that respect, the authority to make those calls, you were watched at the beginning. It was up to us as artists to open ourselves up to everybody and show what we’ve got”. -Phantom says that when he watched Wrestlemania when Shane McMahon did the Van Terminator he thought RVD was at home “kicking the TV”, and asks if he’s had any words with Shane about that when he got to WWE. “You try to come up with a move that no one else can do, but what do you do when someone else does end up doing it? Okay. it’s just another move. Good for him he got allot of WWE fans who never saw me do it on ECW. I’ve had plenty of conversations with him about it. The other day when he did his ‘coast to coast’ he got up limping and said ‘Rob, you can keep that move’” -Van Dam claims that he doesn’t watch the other boys matches, just really concentrates on his stuff. HE likes Tajiri, Rey Misterio, he doesn’t consider himself a wrestling fan. Phantom says that he used to be, because back in the day RVD was picked from the crowd by the Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiase to kiss his feet for $. “I was a huge fan back then, and he picked me out when the WWE was in Battle Creek, I jumped the guard rail…I was so excited I didn’t hold out for more money I did it for $100.” -Van Dam hangs out with Booker T “We like and dislike the same people. We have the same road habits. All the ECW guys are super tight, Tommy Dreamer, Spike Dudley” RVD doesn’t care if he’s pushed in a feud with someone like Goldberg, because he’s comfortable when he’s able to entertain the crowd. -Phantom asks if he liked working with Shawn Michaels on RAW for the title a year ago. Phantom assumes he was a big Michaels fan growing up watching the WWE, “I grew up and long time ago, you know what I mean. When I was a kid, yeah now wrestling him I’m not that same kid. It’s a business, here’s the thing it was one of his first (single) matches back. And everyone was assuming it was going to be some big ‘dream match’. I know if the match did go south, it wasn’t my fault, because I hadn’t had a bad match in months.” Phantom says he liked the backstage stuff between the two and RVD answers half heartedly “Yeah? Thanks”. credit:1wrestling.com Too bad he is not allow to shoot like this on RAW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 “They don’t ask me that, but I ‘m sure they are asking each other, what the hell can we do to keep this guy down?” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 Wow... Simply wow... He's so losing the IC title here soon. Or he's totally done with wrestling... Which I wouldn't care for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 And everyone was assuming it was going to be some big ‘dream match’. I know if the match did go south, it wasn’t my fault, because I hadn’t had a bad match in months.” Weird. Officials in the WWE keep complaining about his self-centered attitude, yet I don't see it. -Van Dam claims that he doesn’t watch the other boys matches, just really concentrates on his stuff. Nope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BifEverchad 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 -RVD seems like he isn’t that jazzed about being the IC champ. “For the most part I don’t care; I’ve had this Intercontinental Belt I don’t know how many times. I read somewhere I beat Benoit for it 3 times, I don’t even know if that’s true, if it is I must have had it 5 times. I’ve had the Hardcore Title, the European Tile, the Tag Titles, the only one I haven’t had is the World Heavyweight Title.” Phantom then bring up that Kevin Kelly mentioned on a GIR interview that RVD was once penciled in to win the Heavyweight belt, “But a guy with 3 initials in his name made sure (he) didn’t”. RVD laughs, says “’Nuff said, I think I know who you are talking about its 3 letters and it’s not RVD”. Yeah, he losing that belt within the next two weeks. If not, tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 He says that he was taught to concentrate on his in-ring skills first, character second. I see someone's doing things backwards. I personally can see why he's not pushed. He acts like a twat and he thinks he's way better than he is. He can pop a crowd but hey so could Rikishi. He talks about how WWE has castrated him but his matches in WWE that I've seen have been better than his ECW work not involving Jerry Lynn. WWE doesn't allow him to stall after every move. I also wonder why he has a feeling Triple H doesn't like him. Might it be because he can't work a main event where he's not flopping around or bumping for a big man and HHH exposed him in a PPV main event? Could it be because he landed on Hunter's throat off a high place? Fuck RVD and his pompous attitude. Vince knows how to get the one up on people who piss him off so it'd be wise for RVD to not try and act like he has any sort of stroke and try and badmouth the guy who pays him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest StevieNightHeat Report post Posted October 20, 2003 I guess this means the end of RVD's push... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 Note: For the record no one here at 1Wrestling.com has any idea what Rob is talking about. The only siuation that we ever had with RVD was when Buck Woodward correctly reported that Rob had hurt his knee filming a movie in Thailand and Rob didn’t want the news to get out because he was talking contract with WWE. Other than that, we have no idea what Rob is talking about. I don't know why, but I find this very funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 And everyone was assuming it was going to be some big ‘dream match’. I know if the match did go south, it wasn’t my fault, because I hadn’t had a bad match in months.” Weird. Officials in the WWE keep complaining about his self-centered attitude, yet I don't see it. Actually, it seemed he was trying to say he was on a roll and HBK was just coming back possibly rusty. He wasn't saying he never has bad matches. That would be an arrogant statement. I'll miss Rob can something tells me he is sooo fired now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Bauer 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 I say RVD should humiliate Vince McMahon at every turn. If he gets fired then that means he gets out of there sooner. If you ask me, RVD would benefit from an early departure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 I don't see how firing one of the few pieces of talent they have left would be a smart thing. Unless they need Mark Henry or La Resistance in a few more segments on Raw. Besides, if they haven't fired him by now, they won't fire him at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 Note: For the record no one here at 1Wrestling.com has any idea what Rob is talking about. The only siuation that we ever had with RVD was when Buck Woodward correctly reported that Rob had hurt his knee filming a movie in Thailand and Rob didn’t want the news to get out because he was talking contract with WWE. Other than that, we have no idea what Rob is talking about. I don't know why, but I find this very funny. Could it be that they are blatantly lieing that makes it so hilarious. Or did I imagine the "RVD will never make it in the WWF" articles. *RVD signs with the WWF* "RVD will never be over in the WWF because of his style" *RVD becomes most over wrestler in promotion* "Um...Bret Hart is coming back!!!!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoboBrazil 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 They won't fire him. They'll just keep him in the opening matches like they have been doing. They aren't going to miss out on his merchandise money. If RVD wanted to get fired he could. All he has to do is light up a joint backstage. I don't think he wants to be fired. He just doesn't care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonX 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 They won't fire him. They'll just keep him in the opening matches like they have been doing. They aren't going to miss out on his merchandise money. If RVD wanted to get fired he could. All he has to do is light up a joint backstage. I don't think he wants to be fired. He just doesn't care. Or he could do an interview calling Steph a no-talent cunt who only keeps her job dispite being a total and utterly incompetant fuck-up because she's the bosses daughter and compare HHH to the office whore who fucks the boss and gets promoted to the VP slot and then ruining the careers of anyone who is more qualified than him for the spot..... Now THAT would be the fastest way for RVD to get the hell out of the WWE by way of getting fired on purpose... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 If RVD wanted to get fired he could. All he has to do is light up a joint backstage. I don't think he wants to be fired. He just doesn't care. Which, judging by this interview, includes the entire wrestling scene as a WHOLE (not just WWE). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamoaRowe 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 I also wonder why he has a feeling Triple H doesn't like him. Might it be because he can't work a main event where he's not flopping around or bumping for a big man and HHH exposed him in a PPV main event? Could it be because he landed on Hunter's throat off a high place? A real world champion will not make purposely make his opponent look bad, which is exactly what Triple H did at Unforgiven last year. By making RVD look bad, he made himself look bad as well. RVD should be pissed off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 And now after 2 years of not getting hurt they say ‘Wow you must be made of rubber’, what did I tell them from the start??” RVD is awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 We've been reading stuff like this for a VERY long time, and RVD hasn't gone anywhere yet. Hell, he actually got the IC title after everything that's been going on. WWE isn't going to let RVD go, I really don't think they will. For all you people know, WWE is allowing RVD to go out and shoot like this in interviews, just to keep his "cocky" persona that he has on WWE TV. The fact, is that none of us know either way. I don't think he's trying to get fired at all. If it hasn't happened yet, it isn't going to happen right now. As said before, if RVD WANTED to be fired, he could do so right this very second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Bauer 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 In that case, the IC Title really DOES mean nothing, if Vince is willing to let his IC Champ go on and say that about the belt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 In that case, the IC Title really DOES mean nothing,... That's nothing new at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Bauer 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 Aye, but you'd think that maybe Vince wouldnt make it even MORE obvious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 When is RVD's contract up? The WWE won't fire him, they'll just low-ball him in contract negotiations, and RVD will just not re-sign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BifEverchad 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 In that case, the IC Title really DOES mean nothing,... That's nothing new at all. The IC Title has been worthless since Austin threw it over the bridge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 Can you say "work"? I knew you could. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted October 20, 2003 Why should any wrestler care about a title? If they do, they are fucking marks. WE should care as the fans, but not the workers. There only wrestle to get paid......period. Not to say they don't love the sport, but if they didn't get paid, they wouldn't be there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 Why should any wrestler care about a title? If they do, they are fucking marks. WE should care as the fans, but not the workers. There only wrestle to get paid......period. Not to say they don't love the sport, but if they didn't get paid, they wouldn't be there. Because main title means you are guarenteed a spot on PPV and PPV equal bonus. Thats why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted October 20, 2003 He says that he was taught to concentrate on his in-ring skills first, character second. I see someone's doing things backwards. I personally can see why he's not pushed. He acts like a twat and he thinks he's way better than he is. He can pop a crowd but hey so could Rikishi. He talks about how WWE has castrated him but his matches in WWE that I've seen have been better than his ECW work not involving Jerry Lynn. WWE doesn't allow him to stall after every move. I also wonder why he has a feeling Triple H doesn't like him. Might it be because he can't work a main event where he's not flopping around or bumping for a big man and HHH exposed him in a PPV main event? Could it be because he landed on Hunter's throat off a high place? Fuck RVD and his pompous attitude. Vince knows how to get the one up on people who piss him off so it'd be wise for RVD to not try and act like he has any sort of stroke and try and badmouth the guy who pays him. Well said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamoaRowe 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 RVD had good/great matches with The Rock, Steve Austin, and Kurt Angle in 2001. There is no reason why Triple H couldn't have gotten a good match out of RVD either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted October 20, 2003 What a moron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michrome 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2003 This is either a work or RVD trying to get his value up for after he leaves next summer. It's pointless if it's work, so I'll go with the latter. RVD is overly full of himself, I mean, there are so many workers in TNA, IWA-MS, ROH, etc that can put together far better matches than he can, and they can actually sell! Holy shit! I mean, everyone here is siding with RVD cause we all like seeing it stuck to Vince (preferably with hot pokers), but RVD is being a moron. In 2001, if WWE had any balls, they would have let RVD run with his huge popularity to the top of the card and possibly the WM X8 main event. Instead they shunted him down, and he hasn't tried as hard since. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites